Just stuck some of the Chernobyl, A11xA13, and CaliYo seedlings (2 days old) directly in Ocean Forest and under the 600w HID's. Contrary to popular belief Ocean Forest is not too hot for seedlings.. and HID light is not too intense for seedlings as long as the temps are low. They're chillin with the clones now. Eisbaer has yet to join the party.