chronichaze
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Ancap your grow is more beautiful then ever! Very nice!
BC Northern Lights Producer Grow #2
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ancap
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Thanks!
These can only go for another 13 days or so before chopping, and I am worried that the greener, white haired buds won't be ripe by then! That will be 71 days in Flower. Hopefully if they aren't done, they'll be done enough. We'll see...
stillcantroll
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Are you going to chop the ripe buds, then leave the others in for another week or so?
ancap
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Well, if I chopped the ripe buds in 10-12 days, by that time my little plants would be about 18 days old and just about ready to flower. I don't know what I'd do with them for another week, especially with the roots really starting to grow. I feel kinda stupid about starting these seeds so soon. Dumb mistake. Any thoughts?
stillcantroll
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Mmm with the seedlings staying under just a CFL light, they shouldn't be shooting up quite that fast... I would imagine you would be ok for another couple weeks or so at least. Usually I find my plants veg quite slow under a CFL, and shoot up once under a MH. With your seedlings transplanted into the 3 inch then sitting on perlite, I think you'll be fine. I'm looking at your riper buds right now, and I wouldn't leave those for another 10-12 days. I would chop them within the next week, leave the rest in for 1-2 weeks, then pop your seeds in. You might benefit from leaving the ripest buds in longer, but I think this way you'll get some nice rays on all your buds, and have the best chance at a good harvest. Ultimately, your seedlings will order you to put them in the box, so I guess it's just how you want to manage your time until then.
You might not get everything you want this run, but I have a feeling you're about *this* close to developing the perfect seed schedule. In other words, next run, or the run after that, you're going to know exactly when to plant seeds, and exactly how long they'll veg under that CFL, and your subsequent runs will have you running your producer with 0 veg time, which is the goal of all of us BCNL users. I'm sure if you let those seedlings shoot a bit, and lay off the Co2 you'll be fine
You might not get everything you want this run, but I have a feeling you're about *this* close to developing the perfect seed schedule. In other words, next run, or the run after that, you're going to know exactly when to plant seeds, and exactly how long they'll veg under that CFL, and your subsequent runs will have you running your producer with 0 veg time, which is the goal of all of us BCNL users. I'm sure if you let those seedlings shoot a bit, and lay off the Co2 you'll be fine
85kryptonite
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yeah id say you could start flushing now, although im a super beginner at all this stuff and hoping to get a producer soon....but ive heard of a lot of people that flush for 2 weeks. you should post some more pics man
stillcantroll
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I want to say that I used final phase and tested some of my stuff after just 4 days of flushing and i tasted absolutely no chemicals. I think next grow, using final phase again, i'm going to flush with final phase for 4 days, then just shock ripen for 3 to cut down on time. Have to say 2 weeks would have been overkill for me, but then again, the plants dont need much nutes for the last part of flowering anyways so, you really can't go wrong.
ancap
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Day 58 Flowering
Well, this grow is now a little out of my hands as the development of my new seedlings is going to dictate when my plants are finished. I started these little guys about 7 days too soon perhaps. I'll time this better next time. Please look at my pictures and let me know how you think these will develop until harvest. I'll give the crop 4 days to flush. Finishing this grow is completely out of my hands, but maybe there is some reassurances you can offer...
These plants have 12 days until harvest...
Ripest
Getting there
Worried about
New feminized Ice plants
Well, this grow is now a little out of my hands as the development of my new seedlings is going to dictate when my plants are finished. I started these little guys about 7 days too soon perhaps. I'll time this better next time. Please look at my pictures and let me know how you think these will develop until harvest. I'll give the crop 4 days to flush. Finishing this grow is completely out of my hands, but maybe there is some reassurances you can offer...
These plants have 12 days until harvest...
Ripest
Getting there
Worried about
New feminized Ice plants
ancap
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My smallest plant that was not producing anything died about two days ago. The roots on this plant are quite extensive. What is going to happen in the res when those roots totally die? Is there anything I can do? I do have that tarantula and piranha powder, but I don't know if that stuff would eat up all the dead material. 
ElectricPineapple
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question, what wattage is that hps in there? 250?
ancap
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I've got two 400 watt HPS and a 125 watt daylight cfl.
stillcantroll
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My smallest plant that was not producing anything died about two days ago. The roots on this plant are quite extensive. What is going to happen in the res when those roots totally die? Is there anything I can do? I do have that tarantula and piranha powder, but I don't know if that stuff would eat up all the dead material.
I had the same problem with one of my plants, and she ended up getting chopped about 6 days early. I lobbed her at the stem and left the roots floating. At the end of the grow, I lifted the tub and couldn't tell which roots were from the dead and which from the alive. In other words, I wouldn't worry about it, especially at this end stage.
Also, I'm really undecided about trimming branches. Jorge Cervantes says in the Bible it's "crazy to cut branches" because of fucking with hormones and shit. On day 20, 4 of flower, is it too late to trim? What if anything should be trimmed? Branches, fan leaves, tops, bottoms? It seems this is one of those areas where opinions are all over the place. I'd love to hear input from you guys with the BCNL boxes(or any other grow box or opinion from someone who's dealt with trimming under cramped circumstances).
ancap
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On yield... I really can't give you a good answer since this is only my second grow out of my BCNL box. I think a pound is entirely possible; I've seen other BCNL growers pull 16, 18 and 20 oz off these. It's really strain dependent I think.
On trimming... I think most growers agree to leave the leaves alone. If you have to cut off some fan leaves, it won't hurt anything occasionally. If a fan leaf is covering a bud site, just tuck it under or away. Trimming branches in a box like this is probably a smart thing to do, especially if you are running a full load. I think there is some controversy around whether trimming a "do nothing" branch will actually add to the yield of your other branches. Regardless, these boxes are so tight with 18 plants that it is well worth the chop to free up some air flow space and to allow light to penetrate branches that will be more productive. I'm still experimenting with whether a full lollipop (trimming the bottom 1/3 of the plant bare) or just selective trimming is better. I will try both but it will take me several more runs to come to any conclusions.
You can still chop branches 20 days into flower.
On trimming... I think most growers agree to leave the leaves alone. If you have to cut off some fan leaves, it won't hurt anything occasionally. If a fan leaf is covering a bud site, just tuck it under or away. Trimming branches in a box like this is probably a smart thing to do, especially if you are running a full load. I think there is some controversy around whether trimming a "do nothing" branch will actually add to the yield of your other branches. Regardless, these boxes are so tight with 18 plants that it is well worth the chop to free up some air flow space and to allow light to penetrate branches that will be more productive. I'm still experimenting with whether a full lollipop (trimming the bottom 1/3 of the plant bare) or just selective trimming is better. I will try both but it will take me several more runs to come to any conclusions.
You can still chop branches 20 days into flower.
ancap
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Good. That's one less thing to worry about...
ancap
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I had a "so crazy it just might work" kind of idea. Tell me how long you think this solution is sustainable. I think it has the possibility of taking me a week into flower. Here is my solution...
1. For now, I put a half inch of perlite into a plastic cup with about a tsp of water, and mix it up. This will provide some humidity.
2. I put the 3" cube into the net pot and then put that into the cup.
3. Voila!
Sorry for the step by step on such a simple idea... looking back it seems kinda patronizing,. What I'm thinking next is that when the roots really start popping out of the bottom, I can replace the perlite with just a liquid solution of oxygenated, nutrient water. This would act as a mini resevoir and possibly buy me another week into flowering... at least that's what I'm thinking. I would replace the water in each of those cups several times during that 10 day span when I have water in there to keep it fresh and oxygenated.
I think by the time these little guys are ready to flower, I will have a couple big plants ready to harvest. That would give me room to move these cups into the flowering chamber.
Totally retarded or am I on to something?
1. For now, I put a half inch of perlite into a plastic cup with about a tsp of water, and mix it up. This will provide some humidity.
2. I put the 3" cube into the net pot and then put that into the cup.
3. Voila!
Sorry for the step by step on such a simple idea... looking back it seems kinda patronizing,
. What I'm thinking next is that when the roots really start popping out of the bottom, I can replace the perlite with just a liquid solution of oxygenated, nutrient water. This would act as a mini resevoir and possibly buy me another week into flowering... at least that's what I'm thinking. I would replace the water in each of those cups several times during that 10 day span when I have water in there to keep it fresh and oxygenated.I think by the time these little guys are ready to flower, I will have a couple big plants ready to harvest. That would give me room to move these cups into the flowering chamber.
Totally retarded or am I on to something?
stillcantroll
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You might be. Good to see you running with what looks to be a full box!! yay!
Should do you for now, your roots will tell the tale I suppose, but it looks good. Best of luck.
And Bigbux, I think I saw medicine man pull close to 2lbs one single time out of these boxes, and it was with a low quality chronic strain called green giant. His purple kush, although the buds were the most resinous ive ever seen, only yielded 3/4 of a lb despite his projections of a 1.5lb yield. So, it's certainly not easy, and ancap is correct when he says its very strain dependant. Trimming branches is almost a must, and I'll be forcing myself to do it next run. There was some airflow problems, and a ton of underdeveloped branches that would have been better off chopped (i'm talking over 20). The only prayer you or I have of getting anywhere near 2 lbs, is with the same strain every run, in clones, and dialing in a perfect feeding/co2/light/everything schedule. Every time we switch strains, in a way we start from scratch.
My thoughts. Keep it up ancap!
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