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newworldicon

Well-Known Member
Sorry I'm not sure what you mean, I am drawing from experience, there is no link. But if you wanted to do it just google "[your OS] convert a usb jump drive to fat32" if you do not know how to do it.
I meant for anyone wanting to use the program you described, it sounds user convenient. But no bother.
 

IXOYE

Active Member
Oh I am so tech illiterate. I'm in the market for a digital camera (my first one, "omg") - are they all GPS'd? Can I strip the GPS device from the dang camera? Did I misunderstand completely? Do I take my cell phone battery out when not in use? Yes I do...
 

DrFever

New Member
I'm also begining to realise that what is relevant at RIU is that people go around the forum trying to correct each other forgetting that opinions was and still is the basis for this forum and in life, I offered an opinion and so did you and that's it. I dont think I ever underestimate law enforcement but I also will not overestimate them. I will always base my opinion on human nature, it's worked for 38 years so far.

I also can't see how you think I am against the program, I never was. I just think that needing to scrub pics before putting them on this forum is not necessary. That's my opinion. Consider this, by this reasoning a local cop would have to go onto RIU and try to target a member on a forum website with tens of thousands of members worldwide with alias names etc. find a member that lives in his jurisdiction then try to find his whereabouts then go bust him all because he has a few cfl's to a 600W growing a few plants......yeah right!

As for the other scenario....a bigger law enforcement operation where they set a benchmark for who and what size of home grow they want to target and then painstakingly track these people down and bust them....plausible yes, likely NO! considering again the size. Stumbling onto something is one thing, premeditation is another.

Back to human nature and likely events....anyone being bust through a sting operation on RIU for a few plants, unlikely. Now if you had pics of a huge room with 100 3 foot bushes bragging about it then yeah that seems more reasonable a scenario.
i would have to agree there for one thing no cop just can get up an say im goin to bust some one on pot on this site thats halarious really for one thing another thing it takes months an months of servaliance before you would get busted then another thing is trying to get a search warrant released from a judge cops just cant bust your door down hell i read that these kids raped a girl an posted it on face book video cops couldnt do fck all as well what bout the guy posting on his site all the crap usa saying bout other countrys etc is he in jail for that they got him in the uk for some sex charge lol
 

newworldicon

Well-Known Member
i would have to agree there for one thing no cop just can get up an say im goin to bust some one on pot on this site thats halarious really for one thing another thing it takes months an months of servaliance before you would get busted then another thing is trying to get a search warrant released from a judge cops just cant bust your door down hell i read that these kids raped a girl an posted it on face book video cops couldnt do fck all as well what bout the guy posting on his site all the crap usa saying bout other countrys etc is he in jail for that they got him in the uk for some sex charge lol
Julian Assange is a different matter but still bullshit, the American government and the CIA created a rape case against him, do you really think it would take the Swedish Government 7 years to decide to open a docket against him and then take all that time to find him......bollocks frankly!
 

abecsta

Active Member
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Panteraboy1988

Active Member
Thats pretty crazy. I knew about photos having metadata but I never knew it would be so much info. Getting a GPS digital camera would probably cost a lot of money if you can even find one at your local Walmart. However, some people forget how nice the cameras are getting in some of these latest phones. Some people, including myself, have completely phased out digital cameras and just started using our phones. There is one thing that you should remember tho. Fancy phones with fancy cameras also have a fancy GPS. I looked at the metadata on a picture I took with my Droid and sure enough it had the latitude and longitude of where the pic was taken.
 

devero420

Active Member
Ok couple things here.

1. If you read the terms and conditions of this site. You have to verify that you are not a member of law enforcement meaning that in America anything obtained in this manner is not admissible evidence.
2. Also these servers are located in Canada so the US has no reach to warrant the owners of this site for any information.
3. The pictures that make it to the site have no metadata in them anyway. They are a fraction of their original size and they do not contain their metadata. If you try to save a pic off of the site, it appears that the file has been created at the time of download and read the data everything is blank.

If you are worried about it simply maintain a FAT32 partition and copy your pictures to it and back again to clear the metadata.
 

xxRolandxx

Active Member
Ok couple things here.

1. If you read the terms and conditions of this site. You have to verify that you are not a member of law enforcement meaning that in America anything obtained in this manner is not admissible evidence.
Right, because LEO always play by the rules and never would stoop so low as to use paid "informants" to data farm then pass over usable intelligence with "undercover" sources.
2. Also these servers are located in Canada so the US has no reach to warrant the owners of this site for any information.
Who told you such nonsense? Their servers are located in Wichita, Kansas. From what I can tell the shell "company" in Canada also owns a boutique car lot, but it could just be a client site on their servers. See here: http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ipall/?tool_id=67&token=&toolhandler_redirect=0&ip=207.126.162.246

3. The pictures that make it to the site have no metadata in them anyway. They are a fraction of their original size and they do not contain their metadata. If you try to save a pic off of the site, it appears that the file has been created at the time of download and read the data everything is blank.
You DO realize they are on the physical server in all their glory...and the server can be compromised in many ways without the Admin`s knowledge. You do realize that all the meta-data IS still there on the database (unless you removed it before you upload...as I suggested), even if Vbulliten masks it from common user view. And you realize that meta-data will still be there if those servers are ever confiscated with a warrant and officially searched by a data recovery forensics team right?

Seriously man, I know what I am talking about. And as I said.. it is better to be safe than sorry.

One thing that makes me suspicious is when people actively fight against more people being aware about being safe with their sensitive data and instead tell people...oh dont worry, you are safe..share your data openly, there is nothing to worry about...when there obviously IS.

Why would you do that?? Hmmmmm...

 

newworldicon

Well-Known Member
Right, because LEO always play by the rules and never would stoop so low as to use paid "informants" to data farm then pass over usable intelligence with "undercover" sources.
Who told you such nonsense? Their servers are located in Wichita, Kansas. From what I can tell the shell "company" in Canada also owns a boutique car lot, but it could just be a client site on their servers. See here: http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ipall/?tool_id=67&token=&toolhandler_redirect=0&ip=207.126.162.246

You DO realize they are on the physical server in all their glory...and the server can be compromised in many ways without the Admin`s knowledge. You do realize that all the meta-data IS still there on the database (unless you removed it before you upload...as I suggested), even if Vbulliten masks it from common user view. And you realize that meta-data will still be there if those servers are ever confiscated with a warrant and officially searched by a data recovery forensics team right?

Seriously man, I know what I am talking about. And as I said.. it is better to be safe than sorry.

One thing that makes me suspicious is when people actively fight against more people being aware about being safe with their sensitive data and instead tell people...oh dont worry, you are safe..share your data openly, there is nothing to worry about...when there obviously IS.

Why would you do that?? Hmmmmm...


I agree that everything you say is true, IT IS BETTER TO BE SAFE THEN SORRY ALWAYS but I disagree with your last paragraph, I doubt anyone on this forum who grows legally or not wants to fight safety from from the law, everyone wants to protect themselves and their peers.

If you however are talking about DHS and their wanting the public to spy on each other then I understand where you are going. I personally don't know why it is that more American members on this forum are not actively discussing what is happening in their country?? Are they not aware of where the country is going??
 

xxRolandxx

Active Member
I agree that everything you say is true, IT IS BETTER TO BE SAFE THEN SORRY ALWAYS but I disagree with your last paragraph, I doubt anyone on this forum who grows legally or not wants to fight safety from from the law, everyone wants to protect themselves and their peers.

If you however are talking about DHS and their wanting the public to spy on each other then I understand where you are going. I personally don't know why it is that more American members on this forum are not actively discussing what is happening in their country?? Are they not aware of where the country is going??
I made that paragraph not directed at him, but at numerous posters in this (and other) thread(s) saying "dont worry" "there is nothing to worry about" "this thread is such a waste". Makes me wonder what would be their motivation to tell people they are safe when they are not. Either ignorance or malicious intent. And sorry dude but I hope for the best in people, but my experience shows me to be suspicious first, and trust is a distant earned second.
 

SCCA

Active Member
ok so im not very tech savvy, but it seems to me if you aren't using a camera with gps you don't have anything to worry about, right?
 

MrDank007

Well-Known Member
This is true only of camera phones correct? My blackberry has an option to switch off GPS info. But I doubt my $100 digital camera has GPS. Correct or no?
 

devero420

Active Member
LOL @ Roland, If you are worried about RIU being breached then why are you even on here, you know that your IP address is recorded by every router and web server between you and RIU right? If they get your ip it will take them straight to your front door, they wont even have to scour your pictures for metadata lol. Also your email address is on file in their database as well, so cleaning out your metadata is not going to help you in your "Hacker" scenario. Besides I know for a fact that RIU encrypts their database because they tell you when a certain piece of info (like the notepad) is not encrypted, and despite what you see in the movies you cant break into an encrypted database as easily as checking your email.

Finally, why would a server admin keep 2 copies of a file? It is compressed at the time of upload, nobody is going to waste disc space and bandwidth by sending and saving uncompressed files and then make a copy of them. I tested the pictures on the server, I didnt just spit it out of my behind, I saved about 8 pictures from 8 different people and checked for metadata, there was none. Either it is being left behind on the users PC, OR RIU's upload manager is creating a new smaller file based off of the original and then moving that new smaller file to the server, I suppose it is also possible that the server is not using an NTFS partition and therefore cannot even see the metadata even if it were there.

Thanks for the post, I think your head is in the right place and I think that it is always good to be mindful of what you are posting, but I would worry more about putting identifying images in your pictures and be mindful of what you post, not boogie man hackers, I also think it is important that we stay grounded here, there are certainly enough real risks that we take in our daily lives and any extra anxiety is not going to help, remember your talking to consumers of a drug that is known for paranoia.

My main goal for speaking in this thread was not to add complacency, but to inform the thread that you can easily clear metadata by keeping your pics on a FAT32 partition where you dont have to worry about it.

Have a great day! Happy Growing.
 

drgreentm

Well-Known Member
This is true only of camera phones correct? My blackberry has an option to switch off GPS info. But I doubt my $100 digital camera has GPS. Correct or no?
i would have to say you are correct uploading photos from your cell phone is stupid sure ALLOT of people on here do it i choose not to. i dont even upload photos from my ip address the thing about it is out of the hundreds of thousands of posts and members on this site alone (not to mention millions more on others) all of which are prably uploading photos as well, they are going to nail me to the cross??? well thats a stretch for anybody to think of especially for some local cops first of all they would have to find out if you even live in the states then exactly what state you live in then if you live in a medical state then if you are a medical user and on and on. the truth is no local force is going to have the shear man power to sift through billions of posts and track billions of ip addresses till they find the few in there city, the only ones that would even attempt a op like that would be the feds and i can honestly say i have only seen a few in the years i have been on the net that are worthy of the feds to even turn their heads. they very well cant just storm your house for some hodge podge bull shit you write on the net. however i understand your paranoia as i am a very paranoid person myself (i have kids and girlfriend) i just prefer to put it into places i am, not places i could be.
 

xxRolandxx

Active Member
LOL @ Roland, If you are worried about RIU being breached then why are you even on here, you know that your IP address is recorded by every router and web server between you and RIU right? If they get your ip it will take them straight to your front door, they wont even have to scour your pictures for metadata lol. Also your email address is on file in their database as well, so cleaning out your metadata is not going to help you in your "Hacker" scenario. Besides I know for a fact that RIU encrypts their database because they tell you when a certain piece of info (like the notepad) is not encrypted, and despite what you see in the movies you cant break into an encrypted database as easily as checking your email.

Finally, why would a server admin keep 2 copies of a file? It is compressed at the time of upload, nobody is going to waste disc space and bandwidth by sending and saving uncompressed files and then make a copy of them. I tested the pictures on the server, I didnt just spit it out of my behind, I saved about 8 pictures from 8 different people and checked for metadata, there was none. Either it is being left behind on the users PC, OR RIU's upload manager is creating a new smaller file based off of the original and then moving that new smaller file to the server, I suppose it is also possible that the server is not using an NTFS partition and therefore cannot even see the metadata even if it were there.

Thanks for the post, I think your head is in the right place and I think that it is always good to be mindful of what you are posting, but I would worry more about putting identifying images in your pictures and be mindful of what you post, not boogie man hackers, I also think it is important that we stay grounded here, there are certainly enough real risks that we take in your daily lives and any extra anxiety is not going to help, remember your talking to consumers of a drug that is known for paranoia.

My main goal for speaking in this thread was not to add complacency, but to inform the thread that you can easily clear metadata by keeping your pics on a FAT32 partition where you dont have to worry about it.

Have a great day! Happy Growing.
LOL..here is my IP right now: 199.48.147.36

Good luck tracing it. Post it into your browser and you will understand.

I registered here with a throw-away mail address (I have over 200 in an Outlook build). None of my pics Ive ever posted have any meta data.

The point about the picture meta-data (the point of this thread) on the server I really cant answer without looking at their server (which I sincerely doubt they would willingly allow me access, and Im sure you havent looked at). LOL. But again. Rather safe than sorry...especially when it takes an extra 20 seconds to strip the data.
 

RawBudzski

Well-Known Member
Only if your posting pics of some grow lab with 20k worth of equip. Cops dont know who is legit or not. Who works for a dispensary who doesnt, they would not waste the time. Here in cali No Cop wants a Bust less than 500 Plants.
True enough, but in my mind I look at it like this. It takes an extra 5-10 minutes to run your pics through this. And that is worth peace of mind, and I would rather be safe...than seriously sorry.
 

RawBudzski

Well-Known Member
yea but still. Cops want Kudos, not Kids. They are looking for some1 evading Thousands of dollars in Tax money by growing LBs bi-weekly or some shyt.
 

TruenoAE86coupe

Moderator
Wow this is simply amazing, i read this, looked around for a random pic (sorry jesus i took one of yours) and put it on that camera summary website. HOLY SHIT!!! I am really glad i read about this before i bought the new camera, as its probably going to be one with the gps locations and all that. May help me pick out a camera though, i can tell what camera actually took the pic.
 
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