weedhead24
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I need the power that will punch you in the fucking chest had a homie bust a lung once . Flavor is very necessary but what about that power ?
BEST TASTING STRAINS?
madininagyal
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White grape by hazeman, cuvee by afficionado if im not wrong,i typically grow two strains.. one for flavor, one for potency. id put my Valley Destroyer up against ANYTHING for potency in flower. it makes your teeth numb (no joke) and is a cross of a landrace indica and black destroyer (black domina crossed with ak-47 which is sativa dominant). unfortunately i have personally found (at least for me) when you're over that 30 percent or so analysis, it tends to bring with it a bitter taste, that "dankness" is much stronger on strains that have super high THC..a good example is Bruce Banner#3..CRAZY potent, doesn't taste very good hehe. growing with 5 different strains that were all supposed to be super crazy potent, of the three that were for me, all three had that bitter dank taste to them much stronger than any "ene" terp. though i must admit all these strains were incredibly high in terps too, just not terps i personally like.
i am finding from my experience that after 20 percent thc or so, the potency is directly relational to the amount of terps. for instance a strain with 5 percent terps at 20 percent THC always gets me personally much higher than a 25 percent thc with say 2 percent terps. this is just for me because it effects everyone a little differently, but it is always the case for me.
i think ultimately i would like to cross breed, or find a strain that is both outrageously potent and has a delightful fruity taste...havent found it yet. my blueberry OG tests at around 25 percent usually and though wonderful stuff, it isnt anywhere near what the Valley Destroyer does potency wise, but it tastes (no shit) like blue fun dip. the og blueberry is maybe 80 20 or 90 10 indica the Valley D is nearly 100 percent indica, or at least it sure feels like it hehe (the black domina dominated the ak-47 when crossed).
i would LOVE white grape if it was just a little more potent. i just had some GDP distillate yesterday and it legit tasted like grape soda (but not artificially flavored as such)
jimihendrix1
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If you want POWER??? ( Me Too ) look into the Swami/Cootz/Nevils Original 88 Release NL5 x Haze. You need look no further. This stuff will open the eyes of even the most experienced smoker.
Ive seen people get sick on it, get mad at me, and swear I put PCP in it.
I had this strain back in the 90s, and lost it due to the feds, and have never been able to find it since, until a month ago, and by accident.
Clackamas Cootz bred the Nevils 88 Release, in 91, and put the seed up for over 20 years, and are now at F5 Stabilized.
I also cant swear 100% that they retain the power of the originals, but I'm assured by Swami that they are everything the originals were.
This stuff was lung buster, every hit.
I will state this.
Mine was also crossed with Nevils NL1 x HP, and Nevils Original Road Kill Skunk...so mine was a hybrid. The Male side of mine was NL5/Hz, but the power, and plant structure was 100% NL5/Hz, but tasted like the best Kashmir Hash possible, and was better than most any extract Ive ever had, except if you made extract from this stuff, which was really unneeded.
This stuff was so strong that it was unsafe to drive, as it would give you a huge head rush, and often you would lose sight for several seconds, not including, every hit, you knew you were going to cough.
Swami also has a Hybrid of this and is called Blue Orca Haze. This is also the Breeders Favorite.
Its a cross of 1971 Kandahar Afghani... Not the modern stuff they call Kandahar, and a 1976 Dealers Choice Thai Stick Male crossed with the Nevils NL5/Hz Male.
The straight up Kandahar x Thai, is called Blue Orca. Not available.
BOH is allegedly, potentially more potent than the NL5/Hz, but not as Paranoia Inducing. But still a day wrecker. Very long lasting.
I just started 18 of the NL5/Hz
10 BOH
11 Hazeman Nevils 88 G13 x HP
2 weeks ago
I also plan on crossing the NL5/Hz Male, to a nice Hazeman G13/HP.
I also love the Hazeman G13/HP. It is also very potent, and has a killer hash taste with the right pheno. Really good stuff, and faster than the Swami. And is also Nevils stuff. Anything Nevil did was mostly fire.
weedhead24
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holy fuck i love that shit i love as read every line . I need thats thats wtf im talking about!!!
Green_Skunk
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Most of the younger folks won't know much about what you're throwing out here. I believe I had something of this brand in the '90's and would love to have her again! Good lookin out!
kristoffolese
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Lol sorry...im still new to forums/social media in general, am still somewhat ham-fisted & clumsy in matching my reply to the right statement on a thread and the like. Sorry if offended anyone! Not a troll - just some guy who sucks at social media-related technology
kristoffolese
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Stated PERFECTLY. Just take a look at the lab results of the last several hightimes... the highest potency strains RARELY (if ever) even place in the top 3. The jusges are smoking SOOO much weed, in so short a time, that there is no chance for them to truly appreciate or pick up the true effect & potency of a given strain, whereas things like bag appeal, smell, taste , are much more noticeable & easier to judge in such conditions. Iv def noticed that the SUPER potent strains are usually DANK/RANK smelling, tasting, with that certain bitterness that VERY earthy/chemmy/skunky strains get when theyre VERY high terp&thc. I love great tasting bud... but I NEEED that potent effect, medically. I dont care how taste my prescription pills taste... if they dont work for me, its all pointless. Certain cuts of GDP can be delicious/high effect... but not hittin' 30% thc, for sure.i typically grow two strains.. one for flavor, one for potency. id put my Valley Destroyer up against ANYTHING for potency in flower. it makes your teeth numb (no joke) and is a cross of a landrace indica and black destroyer (black domina crossed with ak-47 which is sativa dominant). unfortunately i have personally found (at least for me) when you're over that 30 percent or so analysis, it tends to bring with it a bitter taste, that "dankness" is much stronger on strains that have super high THC..a good example is Bruce Banner#3..CRAZY potent, doesn't taste very good hehe. growing with 5 different strains that were all supposed to be super crazy potent, of the three that were for me, all three had that bitter dank taste to them much stronger than any "ene" terp. though i must admit all these strains were incredibly high in terps too, just not terps i personally like.
i am finding from my experience that after 20 percent thc or so, the potency is directly relational to the amount of terps. for instance a strain with 5 percent terps at 20 percent THC always gets me personally much higher than a 25 percent thc with say 2 percent terps. this is just for me because it effects everyone a little differently, but it is always the case for me.
i think ultimately i would like to cross breed, or find a strain that is both outrageously potent and has a delightful fruity taste...havent found it yet. my blueberry OG tests at around 25 percent usually and though wonderful stuff, it isnt anywhere near what the Valley Destroyer does potency wise, but it tastes (no shit) like blue fun dip. the og blueberry is maybe 80 20 or 90 10 indica the Valley D is nearly 100 percent indica, or at least it sure feels like it hehe (the black domina dominated the ak-47 when crossed).
i would LOVE white grape if it was just a little more potent
So ignoring every category except potency, what breeders does everyone think would be top 5? JUST off potency... ignoring taste, price, customer service, etc
My top 3 would be Connoiseur, Top Dawg & Exotic -(though I hate exotic's prices
), Mephisto for auto's... Maybe Alphakronik for #5...
jimihendrix1
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Swami/Nevils 1988 Release NL5 x Hz. This stuff makes some people trip. And get sick. Ive lost customers with this stuff back in the 90s.
Swami Blue Orca Haze. Potentially even more potent than the Swami NL5/Hz, but not as potentially paranoia inducing.
Swami The Yogi
Hazeman/Nevils 1988 Release G13 x Hash Plant... Killer Breeder
Hazeman G13 Female x HP x Swami/Nevils NL5/Hz... Home Made
For just power, and a grinding, teeth clenching high for many, the NL5/Hz wins hands down. BOH a close second, or equal for some phenos, just not as trippy.
Swami ORIGINAL Mr Greengenes IBL Cherry Bomb/Maui Wowie is also some potent stuff.
Swami Blue Orca Haze. Potentially even more potent than the Swami NL5/Hz, but not as potentially paranoia inducing.
Swami The Yogi
Hazeman/Nevils 1988 Release G13 x Hash Plant... Killer Breeder
Hazeman G13 Female x HP x Swami/Nevils NL5/Hz... Home Made
For just power, and a grinding, teeth clenching high for many, the NL5/Hz wins hands down. BOH a close second, or equal for some phenos, just not as trippy.
Swami ORIGINAL Mr Greengenes IBL Cherry Bomb/Maui Wowie is also some potent stuff.
weedhead24
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wish I could vomit an tripity trip lol
weedhead24
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sounds like an brilliant cross
kristoffolese
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Great post Good stuff... hearing only positive of his heirlooms... man, if u can lock up a good NH cross pheno... forget about it... only outdoor weed that ever "rocked" me...never had the pleasure of growing it, myself. Good Jamaican Lambs bread, too... yummy Fortunate to have the Jamaican... dreaming of some swami, though
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Green_Skunk
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I don't think the vomiting part is very fun. I did that off some shit back in the ninety's that was pure in your face skunk. Put several of my buddies in bed and one said he tripped. Haven't seen anything like that since.
kristoffolese
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Connoiseur's OG Chem has a pretty potent pheno... the fruity/citrus ones smell/taste better imo, but the rank, chemmy, musk is the one you want. Blasting, stupifying stone. Definitely not for novice smokers... or ppl who need to hide the smell - can overpower carbon filtration, so use a back-up ionizer - especially at dry&trim time!
Green_Skunk
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Hey man, slide on over and take a look at this thread about my experience back then. I'm hoping you've got something to share as well.
jimihendrix1
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The stuff I had was also really, really skunky smelling, but tasted like the finest hash, and was extremely sticky. Was also very green, and with loaded trichs.
We 3 of us were at a friends house, and my friends wife came home from work, with 2 of her friends. 1 of them was a veteran smoker, and had smoked this stuff many times by this point.
Also I'll point out that this stuff never made me sick, ect. But it could up my paranoia, and wasn't safe to drive, because of the blackout factor.
But there was 6 of us all together, and we smoked about half of a 1 gram joint, and the 1 girl that hadn't smoked it before, started getting dizzy, paranoid, and sick to her stomach.
She eventually had to go into the bathroom, of which she spent almost 2 hours in, sick, and when it was all over and done with swore we put PCP in it, and never came back until long after, when it was pretty much proven to her that it was just weed.
1 friend who would smoke it, and was a veteran smoker, ALWAYS turned green on this stuff, but he'd smoke it anyway. He would get terrible GAS, and would end up on the floor. He'd nod like he was on smack or something.
We smoked some with his girlfriend, and she also got really sick, and swore I put drugs in it. She still hates me, 20+ years later, but my buddy married someone else.
Another friends girlfriend was looking at my crop, and we lit up a joint, and the second hit she took, she blacked out, and fell into the weed plants, destroying 2 of them. Luckily she didn't hurt herself.
We 3 of us were at a friends house, and my friends wife came home from work, with 2 of her friends. 1 of them was a veteran smoker, and had smoked this stuff many times by this point.
Also I'll point out that this stuff never made me sick, ect. But it could up my paranoia, and wasn't safe to drive, because of the blackout factor.
But there was 6 of us all together, and we smoked about half of a 1 gram joint, and the 1 girl that hadn't smoked it before, started getting dizzy, paranoid, and sick to her stomach.
She eventually had to go into the bathroom, of which she spent almost 2 hours in, sick, and when it was all over and done with swore we put PCP in it, and never came back until long after, when it was pretty much proven to her that it was just weed.
1 friend who would smoke it, and was a veteran smoker, ALWAYS turned green on this stuff, but he'd smoke it anyway. He would get terrible GAS, and would end up on the floor. He'd nod like he was on smack or something.
We smoked some with his girlfriend, and she also got really sick, and swore I put drugs in it. She still hates me, 20+ years later, but my buddy married someone else.
Another friends girlfriend was looking at my crop, and we lit up a joint, and the second hit she took, she blacked out, and fell into the weed plants, destroying 2 of them. Luckily she didn't hurt herself.
kristoffolese
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kristoffolese
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Ahhh... whatever happened to weed you had to buy and sell with a warning? Lol Love me some super biz-nomatron!
bobdagrowah
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Hey buddy where can I find something like this in seed form
Deep21
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Sativa dominant hybrid.
Tates of gas, pepper, citrus, earth and spice. Quoted from the Green Work Guy:
"Gorilla. Haze. Need I say more? This is a wild f------ ride. Honestly, even though I bred it and deemed it worthy of release, I go out of my way not to smoke this stuff. It gives me vertigo and makes my heart beat really intensely... Or I just get so high that I think it is. I love GG4, and the GG4 x Clockwork Orange mother was a nice sativa spin on GG4... Hazy Gorilla though... I mean, holy s---. If you want to get ripped from herb this does it."
I don't usually do this, but these seeds come with a warning/disclaimer:
I strongly advise using caution with this strain. I don't recommend it for people with heart problems or anxiety. Also, I would advise this only for experienced smokers with a couple hours to ride out.
10 Regular Non-Feminized Seeds
Just picked these up from greenworks collective. Hope they stand up to the warning.