THENUMBER1022
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you know, bagdad supposedly sits over the first empire, from 2500 B.C., in a land described to be the land of the magical herb fields.
Between plants and animals.
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grannybonger
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Hello seekers, Excuse me but what's the 'E' in 2500 'BCE'?
Getting back to Number5, In association.
A human female produces an egg. A female pot plant produces pistels.
When a Human-female's egg is fertilized a baby grows. When a Pot-female's pistels find pollen a seed is produced, in a pod. The medium/dirt would be the womb. but this seed (egg) is severed from it's mother. It's DNA is now intact. But this seed say was growin in a hydro system.
I would say that of all the seeds produced hydrophonically, 70% will need to be grown the same way. The food they ate will now become a part of their DNA. Whatda ya thunk? OH, the other 30% didn't sprout.
Getting back to Number5, In association.
A human female produces an egg. A female pot plant produces pistels.
When a Human-female's egg is fertilized a baby grows. When a Pot-female's pistels find pollen a seed is produced, in a pod. The medium/dirt would be the womb. but this seed (egg) is severed from it's mother. It's DNA is now intact. But this seed say was growin in a hydro system.
I would say that of all the seeds produced hydrophonically, 70% will need to be grown the same way. The food they ate will now become a part of their DNA. Whatda ya thunk? OH, the other 30% didn't sprout.
Bwpz
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It stands for Before Common Era
RyanTheRhino
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Greeks invented hydro... you never know maybe one day we will find a ancient bong made of marble . Greek hydro = water
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
BCE stands for Before Current Era. It's a way to universalize a formerly ecclesiastic calendar scheme.
In your example, the DNA will be made of the atoms from the food, but it's worth remembering that molecules do not "remember" the source of origin of their component atoms or moieties. It really makes zero difference about hydroponic or not. The Lamarckian idea that environment affects the machinery of heredity has been shown to be incorrect, and your example is just that. cn
"moieties" is chemist talk for parts of molecules - larger than atoms, smaller than the whole thing.
<edit> I typed slowly, it seems ...
In your example, the DNA will be made of the atoms from the food, but it's worth remembering that molecules do not "remember" the source of origin of their component atoms or moieties. It really makes zero difference about hydroponic or not. The Lamarckian idea that environment affects the machinery of heredity has been shown to be incorrect, and your example is just that. cn
"moieties" is chemist talk for parts of molecules - larger than atoms, smaller than the whole thing.
<edit> I typed slowly, it seems ...
grannybonger
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I just found this here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetics#Genetic_code
Although genetics plays a large role in the appearance and behavior of organisms, it is the combination of genetics with what an organism experiences that determines the ultimate outcome. For example, while genes play a role in determining an organism's size, the nutrition and health it experiences after inception also have a large effect.
After inception in a pot seed is after the pollen reaches the pistels, so I'm pretty sure this says nutrition (ferts/nutes),(hydro/dirt).
This is really not a big deal and I appreciate the comments, I just wish peeps didn't have to get rude when all I'm doin is looking deaper into some of the problems/experences I've been having.
Although genetics plays a large role in the appearance and behavior of organisms, it is the combination of genetics with what an organism experiences that determines the ultimate outcome. For example, while genes play a role in determining an organism's size, the nutrition and health it experiences after inception also have a large effect.
After inception in a pot seed is after the pollen reaches the pistels, so I'm pretty sure this says nutrition (ferts/nutes),(hydro/dirt).
This is really not a big deal and I appreciate the comments, I just wish peeps didn't have to get rude when all I'm doin is looking deaper into some of the problems/experences I've been having.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
No argument with this post. However if I'm reading things right, you're suggesting that the organism's experience andor nutritional history feeds back into its genetics. That's the Lamarckian idea, and it's different from your Wikipedia extract.
Let's say you take a weed strain known for stability of phenotype. Let's also say that you take 2x number of seedlings. Give x(1) seedlings the best conditions and grow them into magnificent healthy plants.
Take x(2) sedlings and mistreat them so all survive to flower but barely so.
Ypou'll get more seeds from x(1) than x(2). However if you then germinate their offspring under controlled conditions, there will be no difference in the plants obtained.
So yes, environment affects the phenotype (the overall qualities of the individual) but does NOT feed back into genotype.
Please note that in this example I've not killed off the least robust plants ... so natural selection won't be an issue. If a percentage of plants is allowed to die each generation, natural selection will of course occur. This does not violate Darwin/Mendel genetics.
Let me know if I'm addressing what you're actually saying ... cn
grannybonger
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Very good there Cannabineer, your right in the groove. I don't have much to add so if anybody else wanna show some more brilliance, I'll be hangin around town. Before I go, what does the 'cn' stand for. Oh yeah, and 'OP' too. I'm new, ya-no.
zvuv
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Yeah, that's a common misconception, that somehow the parents' experiences modify its own DNA or that of it's offspring. It does do so but only indirectly through the mechanism of selection as cn explains.
RyanTheRhino
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well smokers who have babies can have defect thats kinda like the same thing
grannybonger
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Yeah, Like I was stoned when my daughter was concieved, but was it passed on? These guy's say yes/no.
Alcoholism and Genetics
- Does DNA play a part in whether or not someone is an alcoholic? According to the American Academy of Child & Adolescent Psychiatry, individuals who have alcoholic parents are four to eight times more likely to become alcoholics themselves. However, is behavior ingrained in our DNA, or more a case of monkey see, monkey do? While debate still surrounds the issue, the general belief is that both genetics and environmental factors contribute to alcoholism.
Read more: Genetic Causes of Alcoholism | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how-does_5377664_genetic-causes-alcoholism.html#ixzz1bMyuybxJ
Very interesting, My Dear Watson.
ps. I my case the kid turned out normal (no retardation) Enviromentally, she's now University educated and making 40,000.00 per yr, thanks to her Mom, I'm still stoned.
ps. I my case the kid turned out normal (no retardation) Enviromentally, she's now University educated and making 40,000.00 per yr, thanks to her Mom, I'm still stoned.
grannybonger
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Hello Seekers, I'm back with more 'in the DNA' stuff. Did you know that seeds have only been growin indoors for the last 50yrs or so? (don't quote me on that) The thing is most seeds today are from indoors, this has astoundly affected the seeds DNA. No indoor light can duplicate the sun for Uv or vitamin D. So now we got the 'type' of lights the seeds were concieved with as well as the nutes, will need to be known to achieve max growing conditions, for those particular seeds. Cheers gb
Oh, and this would be Number-7, in associations.
Plants need sunlight or equivalent to live. Animals need sunlight or equivalent to live.
Oh, and this would be Number-7, in associations.
Plants need sunlight or equivalent to live. Animals need sunlight or equivalent to live.