BHO with Vacuum oil/wax tutorial

vacpurge said:

haha little late there! I brought it across like 2 months ago and have used it over a dozen times. they barely even asked. just wanted the value. I told them 109. they ebayed it... ebay said 109. they were happy. I was overthinking it and just being a paranoid stoner. because if you google "vac it pro" its 90% BHO stuff....

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Don't blame you for being slightly paranoid...so they actually wanted to take the valve from you? Did you go to a smaller crossing or was it high traffic? I worked along the ND and MT border clearing brush and had to communicate with BorderPatrol daily so they didn't think we were random ppl running along the border back and forth. We(5 of us) also got diplomatic passports so we could cross without searches...sweet right...too bad they don't just hand those out haha. There are a lot of smaller single lane crossing in western ND that i found to be pretty lax but then again they might also be bored that day and just decide to pick apart cars.

Got a new puppy for my girlfriends birthday and so Mozzie(7months) has a buddy to play with. Been distracting from making any BHO or doing a whole lot on RIU recently but I hope to make some BHO from TrainW trim tonight. Very excited to see the color and salivate over the flavor

I really want more "sour" or "lemon" strains, always have enjoyed them a lot. At least i already have a good variety.
Well i'm off to work a random saturday...
PEACE!

it was the canada/us border. they are very sticky. my dad went to the states one time and couldnt finish his sushi dish, he left 2 small pieces in the car then drove back home, into canada. tried going through the border with these 2 pieces of sushi still in the dish that he had forgot about and they were not friendly at all to say the least. said they can take seize his 2012 camaro he was driving over something like that.

just pay 5$ extra on top of every 100$ merchandise and youre good to go. so it was 5.90$ extra for the chamber.

guzias... buy one of these. best 17$ ever: http://www.ebay.com/itm/370700900617?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

I just put it right in the chamber under the paper and oil and it works awesome.

I learned that it takes 24 full hours for the chamber to reach the same temp as the griddle (120f) which it will. even the handles of the vac it pro will be 120f after time if the griddle is 120f.

the internal 17$ temp monitor confirms the same temp as my digital infrared temp gun when pointed at the griddle. I think that will be very important in making was as you can monitor the oil temp instantly. cant do that with the gun shooting through the plastic vac it pro lid. (is yours cracking yet... its gotta be???)

650baquet said:

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Got a new puppy for my girlfriends birthday and so Mozzie(7months)

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mozie and the new pup look to be getting along well! congrads, those are some nice looking pupps


what are cracks?

none yet! :]

vacpurge said:

guzias... buy one of these. best 17$ ever: http://www.ebay.com/itm/370700900617?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

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hmmmmmmmmmmmmm, looks pretty sweet. I just bought a new griddle, so im currently trying to tune it in on temps, its a bit different from my last one..

but this little device is pretty nice.

i may eventually pick one up. i was pretty damn good at controlling the temps on my last setup though.. we shall see. no more goo for lifes over here, ever

vacpurge said:

guzias... buy one of these. best 17$ ever: http://www.ebay.com/itm/370700900617?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

I just put it right in the chamber under the paper and oil and it works awesome.

I learned that it takes 24 full hours for the chamber to reach the same temp as the griddle (120f) which it will. even the handles of the vac it pro will be 120f after time if the griddle is 120f.

the internal 17$ temp monitor confirms the same temp as my digital infrared temp gun when pointed at the griddle. I think that will be very important in making was as you can monitor the oil temp instantly. cant do that with the gun shooting through the plastic vac it pro lid. (is yours cracking yet... its gotta be???)

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i figured out the drop in reading i get with my laser is consistently 30° when my gun say 85° i know my wax is @115. did 10 samples throughout my 36 hours of purging my 3 different runs and was always within 29-31° off so ima roll with it. my original plan was an internal unit as well but am afraid of making a mess or the pressure messing with the components.

Guzias1 said:

mozie and the new pup look to be getting along well! congrads, those are some nice looking pupps


what are cracks?

none yet! :]

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Nice chamber have the same one with a 6 cfm master cool pump

I did that too, added 25-30 degrees to griddle temp but you still never know... and it changes after 6 - 12 - 24 hours. (the vac it pro. not sure about your exact setup but me and guzias are identical except for the pump) for 18$, its worth it. now I know 100% what temp the oil is, no fucking around and guessing. the oil ive got in there right now is already half wax/half oil. because of the monitoring the temperature thing has given me.

I plan to mount the temp gauge nicely and hide the wiring the best I can. and maybe get a light inside the chamber too.. a stick one LED light stuck around the inside of the chamber for better viewing/pictures of the oil

So something just keeps bugging me....I haven't really looked around too much to see if anyone has compared a column vs mason jar for yield but I have been thinking about the physics/chemistry a bit. I'm thinking the columns are more efficient because you're continuously washing the oil down and out...however, using a mason jar(preferable prechilled thermos) allows for a long soak time extracting more weight possibly?????? Even if that greater weight includes more unwanted material, winterizing can be performed and you would possibly still end up with more than when running a column??? I'm def not trying to assume one or the other is better...but i will believe whatever the pros on here say. Just having a really really tough time deciding just by thinking about it lol...the race might be neck'n'neck.

I would really really like to invest in a column and i know some guys who blow...glass, so i'm gonna ask them if they could help out by chance. BUT! Only if they can get me the column i feel i would want...or columns. Most of my runs are between 20-40grams. I'm sure there's possibly a thread somewhere suggest column sizes but let me know what you guys think while i go lookin. Would a tall skinny column do better at extracting more than it if was shorter and fatter?? Or does it matter mainly the total volume of the column and how you pack it/how material is processed.

650baquet said:

So something just keeps bugging me....I haven't really looked around too much to see if anyone has compared a column vs mason jar for yield but I have been thinking about the physics/chemistry a bit. I'm thinking the columns are more efficient because you're continuously washing the oil down and out...however, using a mason jar(preferable prechilled thermos) allows for a long soak time extracting more weight possibly?????? Even if that greater weight includes more unwanted material, winterizing can be performed and you would possibly still end up with more than when running a column??? I'm def not trying to assume one or the other is better...but i will believe whatever the pros on here say. Just having a really really tough time deciding just by thinking about it lol...the race might be neck'n'neck.

I would really really like to invest in a column and i know some guys who blow...glass, so i'm gonna ask them if they could help out by chance. BUT! Only if they can get me the column i feel i would want...or columns. Most of my runs are between 20-40grams. I'm sure there's possibly a thread somewhere suggest column sizes but let me know what you guys think while i go lookin. Would a tall skinny column do better at extracting more than it if was shorter and fatter?? Or does it matter mainly the total volume of the column and how you pack it/how material is processed.

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If i am doing a 3oz run or more, i reallyyyy love my big tube. i can clamp my tube to a table, plug in a can, and it goes..

i am currently requesting a tube that can hold about 25 grams, same diameter.. i can also, clamp, and plug a can right into it as well..

i like to make progression along the way.. efficiency is a big part of that..

narrow single pass columns are my faves..

650baquet said:

I would really really like ........ some guys who blow...glass,

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way to clarify

Guzias1 said:

i like to make progression along the way.. efficiency is a big part of that..

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Could you explain a weee bit more?

can butane over rinse weed?

what if you rinsed 10 grams with 10 cans (overkill, I know) would you be able to fully purge ALL of the butane and turn that super over rinsed stuff into an amazing oil with no side effects again or what?

ive been coffee grinding it the whole time. I guess thats too fine? I will try jut putting it in the hand grinder.

Wow .. 40 pages later! YES! I love this thread lol..


Let me introduce myself, I am a RC69.51a patient from Washington State (seattle). My wife and I have been spending alot of money on concentrates but due to recently life changes (my son 1.5 year old was diagnosed autism and I am now a stay at home dad, income cut in half) we decided to make our own errl to save money and make sure whatever we were dabbing in the future was well purged and safe.


Let me detail exactly what I bought, and it all arrives on Friday Gives me time to buy the best trim I can get my hands on.




1-Stage 3CFM 1/4HP Rotary Vane Vacuum Pump


Glass Essential Honey Oil Extractor BHO 25-30 gram


1.5 Gallon Vacuum Chamber for Degassing (with stop valve and vacuum gauge, looks alot like the Vac it Pro


SainSonic Non-Contact IR Infrared Thermometer Gun With Laser Targeting


Presto 07047 Cool Touch Electric Griddle


Beyond Gourmet Unbleached Parchment Paper, 71-Square Foot Roll


Unbleached #4 Coffee Filters


8x8 Pyrex dish


Safety Eye Glasses




Im pretty sure I did not miss anything and I did not try to cut any corners when I made this investment. I am going to take a very detailed approach and log every temperature during the purging process to hopefully acquire this skill and help others in the future.


Here in Seattle there are quite alot of people who can achieve great consistancy, shatters, honeycomb or honeyfoam like a buddy of mine calls it, etc. But nobody shares there "method" which I understand because it takes alot of time and frustration and money to dial it down. I don't beleive the information should be kept and I am glad the people in this thread, although learning, are sharing there trials and errors for all of us to learn.


I'll keep an eye on this thread and once I make my first extraction i'll post it for you guys to see.

McMuffin said:

Wow .. 40 pages later! YES! I love this thread lol..

Im pretty sure I did not miss anything and I did not try to cut any corners when I made this investment. I am going to take a very detailed approach and log every temperature during the purging process to hopefully acquire this skill and help others in the future.


Here in Seattle there are quite alot of people who can achieve great consistancy, shatters, honeycomb or honeyfoam like a buddy of mine calls it, etc. But nobody shares there "method" which I understand because it takes alot of time and frustration and money to dial it down. I don't beleive the information should be kept and I am glad the people in this thread, although learning, are sharing there trials and errors for all of us to learn.


I'll keep an eye on this thread and once I make my first extraction i'll post it for you guys to see.

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WELCOME! Can't wait to hear what trim you get and how great it is and how your first run goes! I personally find a lot of relief in concentrates that i make from fresh(2-3wks from harvest) bud/trim that is also from a sativa specific strain. I compare it to smoking out of a vaporizer, except all in one toke. Though, when i feel my body itself is having a hard time relaxing or if my hip is bothering me it's best to smoke it with a little bud to get a full effect. I just learned that butane mainly extracts THC(Delta9), haven't done any further research to back that up but i know that my BHO effects me as if it's packed with just THC.

Anywho...i think it's silly if people are keeping their method of making BHO to them selves as if it's a secret. I couple of my acquaintances are very shady when i ask them about their setup and stuff as if i'm a snitch. They basically have become non-existent to me now that i'm supplying myself with everything now. There are some highly experienced "pros" here at RIU who will help you make sure your concentrates are as clean as you deem necessary. I'm only have like 8 BHO trials under my belt and non of them would have turned out as good as they did if i hadn't taken the time to read about a ton of success/failure stories. I finally ended up at SkunkPharms website and after reading nearly the entire thing i felt very confident. Then I happened to find this thread which i am great full to be a part of.

Holy crap join date 2008 and only 17 posts! Well obviously you have bettering things to do haha

Yeah I joined this website when I first started learning how to grow in a non medical state, and riu was a very helpful resource at the time. I had then since moved on to ICMAG during my bigger op days (18 k HPS grow, 28 plants, 30 lb harvest almost every time). In a non medical state when there is so much at risk its very scary to post even 17 posts hehe..

Now I am in WASHINGTON STATE, woot. I can talk about anything marijuana related without any fear of persecution and share my entire process with you guys in detail.

My wife and I are no strangers to oil or dabbing so I know the consistency I want to achieve for my finished product.

Glad to know about the trim, a buddy of mine was going to sell me oz of OG Kush sugar trim for 25 a oz but it was harvested in January of this year. I'll throw up an ad on craigslist in search of A+ top shelf trim and i am sure i'll get a few hits.

been in the vac for 2 or 3 days now at about 125-130f

the center looks like it is starting to turn real light like your guys' stuff. I hope it will all eventually turn that really yellow/whiteish color and not brown.

What's left after harvesting...grew me some M&Ms too haha...me being random at 5am. Feel like I got a good harvest, somewhere around 3oz which seems right with the LED yeild.
LCOG...Not my most prized girl for sure, but she should still yield some flavorful bud.
Two TrainW will be fitting into the 1.5x2.5ft void left by the harvested LCOG.
240w on left 432w on right. I dig the 432 for a main flower light...i feel the 240 isn'ta big enough panel to make the coverage worth it...plus the space out some of the LEDs so the mix isn't even as good as the 432. I would like to do a SOG with a 800w+ panel for sag(shits and giggles)...wonder how far LED tek will progress by the time i feel like i can afford to blow $1000 on a larger panel. The only reason why i even mess around or spend money with LED tek is that I think it's cool to see how this awesome plant adjusts or is effected under different stimuli. Curiosity will prolly kill me some day...ooo what's that button, KABOOOOOOM!
Crappy picture of the two TW replacing the LCOG spot.
Two on the right top and right bottom are LCOG(lanky) and the other three are gonna be my most beastly TW yet, i usually wait until they are bigger before topping much but i'm going to make these guys into some short stocky bushes. Only under the cfl for another day before they will be the main plants under my MH. I also have a Vanilla Kush about the same size(not pictured). The VK has some awesome fan leaves, some of the biggest/fattest i've ever had aside from d'Chocolope. I can't put in words how excited i am for the up coming Choco, only my second go with her so I'll keep everybody posted along the way of course.

vacpurge said:

been in the vac for 2 or 3 days now at about 125-130f

the center looks like it is starting to turn real light like your guys' stuff. I hope it will all eventually turn that really yellow/whiteish color and not brown.

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Sorry but from my experience color won't change really, and mainly depends on how fresh the bud, or what type of bud it is. How fresh was the input material?