Blue cheese,trainwreck E&F + multistrain organic grow..1200 watts, aircooled, w/ co2

trichlone fiend

New Member
...organic is going great!
...they were given 3 weeks in my aerocloner, and about a week of veg under the HPS.
After I clone/veg under fluros....then transplant into soil (FFOF), I like to let them get used to the HPS about 3 feet away until I see them start to catch on, w/ new growth (6"-8" tall).
I water only for the first couple weeks, I add about 1/2 tbls of molasses per gallon of water for all waterings. (feed microbes)
After a couple weeks or so, I start my tea feedings. (seabird guano, bat guano, kelp, earthworm castings, molasses)
...I fertilize once a week up until the last couple of weeks of flowering, most plants will finish about 18" - 24" tall w/ about 3/4 - 1 ounce per lady.

...here's some of my past organic grows >>> https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/298861-1st-journal-10-strains-seeds.html
 

ABM2010

Active Member
thats what u call the dogs bollicks mate,u got the blue cheese shit sussed out havnt u them heads r like donkey dicks
love it!
good work bro,keep it up
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stinkbudd1

Well-Known Member
...organic is going great!
...they were given 3 weeks in my aerocloner, and about a week of veg under the HPS.
After I clone/veg under fluros....then transplant into soil (FFOF), I like to let them get used to the HPS about 3 feet away until I see them start to catch on, w/ new growth (6"-8" tall).
I water only for the first couple weeks, I add about 1/2 tbls of molasses per gallon of water for all waterings. (feed microbes)
After a couple weeks or so, I start my tea feedings. (seabird guano, bat guano, kelp, earthworm castings, molasses)
...I fertilize once a week up until the last couple of weeks of flowering, most plants will finish about 18" - 24" tall w/ about 3/4 - 1 ounce per lady.

...here's some of my past organic grows >>> https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/298861-1st-journal-10-strains-seeds.html
Hey man there is no daubt you have your shit trully dialed in and thats why my nosy ass is here today, well that and to give you mad props on your whole setup it is just what the doctor ordered for me it would be perfect for my 3x3 space.. But i had a question or two first of all it seems like all your plants are one main fat cola is this by design? if so what do you do to accomplish this? d you trim lower leaves / or somthing similar? I hope im not a bother to yah but man i need to knowwwwwww!!
 

trichlone fiend

New Member
Hey man there is no daubt you have your shit trully dialed in and thats why my nosy ass is here today, well that and to give you mad props on your whole setup it is just what the doctor ordered for me it would be perfect for my 3x3 space.. But i had a question or two first of all it seems like all your plants are one main fat cola is this by design? if so what do you do to accomplish this? d you trim lower leaves / or somthing similar? I hope im not a bother to yah but man i need to knowwwwwww!!
...the key to getting single colas, would first be strain. Get a good Indica dominate strain...then flower straight from clone. I do lollipop, cutting off 1/3 of the bottom of each plant during weeks 2/3...that's about it. Don't be afraid to flower straight from clone, it does great.
 

Someguy15

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Nice grow you got yourself here. I was wondering what your blue cheese dried out to be? Your running 600 watters right, how many? I'm curious to know your gram per watt with that sog style. Very nice work though, a little rep for you and subbed.
 

dr green dre

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...the 6" pots have holes in the very bottom of the pots. You adjust the level of the flood and drain, making sure that your roots will get wet in the process of flooding. You shold never need a heater in a res., most growers actually need a chiller to cool it off...your room temps will keep give your res warmth, watch it though.... heat causes fungi in your res....cold is good....and add alot of bubble stones, you can't add too many.
...here's my feeding strategy for hydro:

The Lucas Formula


General Hydroponics Flora Series Feeding Strategy - Lucas Formula

G-M-B (Grow-Micro-Bloom)
0-5-10 - For Vegetative cycle (18/6)
0-8-16 - For Flowering cycle (12/12)

The numbers above indicate the number of milliliters (ml) of Flora Grow, Micro or Bloom formulas that I use in one gallon (US Liquid) of nutrients.

You will notice I dont use any of the Flora “Grow” formula, do not need to, the Flora "Micro" provides plenty of Nitrogen.

There are two ways to work with this formula:

1. Top off the reservoir daily using a pH corrected water solution as required to maintain full reservoir level. After adding back an amount of water equal to the amount of your reservoir capacity you should change the reservoir and put in fresh solution.

2. Top off the reservoir daily using a pH corrected 100% strength nutrient solution as required to maintain full reservoir level. Continue to use this nutrient solution without dumping the tank unless the PPM rises above acceptable levels.

Between vegetative and flowering cycles you should dump your nutrients, then flush (possibly with Clearex) to remove salt buildups, then change to the other feeding program. Always shake your GH nutrient bottles before using them!
Good bit of info there bro +rep, setup looks neat bro keep it up.Im reading and learnig alot from this thread thanks.

:)
 

trichlone fiend

New Member
Nice grow you got yourself here. I was wondering what your blue cheese dried out to be? Your running 600 watters right, how many? I'm curious to know your gram per watt with that sog style. Very nice work though, a little rep for you and subbed.
...sure, Barney Farm's Blue Cheese only produced 3/4 lb. each 600 w/ 16-20 ladies under each... GHS, Trainwreck produced 1-1/4 lb each 600 w/ 16-20 under each... I think I should've cram'd more Bluecheese under each light, maybe 25 would've been better, it's a really short lady, she grows a little slow...

...thanks! :weed:
 

Arsehole

Well-Known Member
...the 6" pots have holes in the very bottom of the pots. You adjust the level of the flood and drain, making sure that your roots will get wet in the process of flooding. You shold never need a heater in a res., most growers actually need a chiller to cool it off...your room temps will keep give your res warmth, watch it though.... heat causes fungi in your res....cold is good....and add alot of bubble stones, you can't add too many.
...here's my feeding strategy for hydro:

The Lucas Formula

General Hydroponics Flora Series Feeding Strategy - Lucas Formula

G-M-B (Grow-Micro-Bloom)
0-5-10 - For Vegetative cycle (18/6)
0-8-16 - For Flowering cycle (12/12)

The numbers above indicate the number of milliliters (ml) of Flora Grow, Micro or Bloom formulas that I use in one gallon (US Liquid) of nutrients.

You will notice I dont use any of the Flora “Grow” formula, do not need to, the Flora "Micro" provides plenty of Nitrogen.

There are two ways to work with this formula:

1. Top off the reservoir daily using a pH corrected water solution as required to maintain full reservoir level. After adding back an amount of water equal to the amount of your reservoir capacity you should change the reservoir and put in fresh solution.

2. Top off the reservoir daily using a pH corrected 100% strength nutrient solution as required to maintain full reservoir level. Continue to use this nutrient solution without dumping the tank unless the PPM rises above acceptable levels.

Between vegetative and flowering cycles you should dump your nutrients, then flush (possibly with Clearex) to remove salt buildups, then change to the other feeding program. Always shake your GH nutrient bottles before using them!

For young plants, just transplanted into the hydro setup, give them 50% strength nutrient mix to prevent overfeeding them while their young. Gradually bring up the mix to full strength as they grow over the next few weeks or so.

The lucas formula is normally intended for use with RO or near 0 PPM water.

NOTE: The Lucas formula eliminates the need for Epsom salts to correct (Magnesium) Mg deficiencies in most normal feeding programs recommended by manufacturers. Cannabis needs a lot of Magnesium to thrive.

The Flora Micro is providing the Nitrogen and the Magnesium in the proper balance, thus there is no need for the Grow formula and little or no room under the maximum acceptable ppm limit of 1600 @ 0.7 conversion.

Calculated EC/TDS levels:

EC microsiemen:
0-4-8: 946 µS
0-5-10: 1184 µS
0-8-16: 1894 µS

TDS @ 0.5 conversion:
0-4-8 = 473 ppm
0-5-10 = 592 ppm
0-8-16 = 947 ppm

TDS @ 0.7 conversion:
0-4-8 = 663 ppm
0-5-10 = 829 ppm
0-8-16 = 1326 ppm

Addback Calculator - (For Advanced Users)

Say you were running the 0-8-16 formula, at 0.7 conversion with a 22 gallon res. When you first fill it up, your ppm will be around 1330.

Now you have been growing for a week, and some of the water has been taken up by the plants, some has evaporated, and now your res is at 947 ppm. You need to get your ppm from 947 to 1330. Here is the equation:

((target - current) / target) * 8 ml per gallon * res gallons = Flora Micro (ml) double this figure to get Flora Bloom (ml)

Example:

((1330 - 947) / 1330) * 8 * 22
(383 / 1330) * 8 * 22
0.3 * 8 * 22 = 53 ml Flora Micro

53 ml Flora Micro, double that and you get 106 ml Flora Bloom. So 53 ml Flora Micro and 106 ml Flora Bloom to add back to your 22 gallon res to get you from 947 to 1330.

Using Hard Water GH Micro

I had been experimenting with using the Hard water Micro as a substitute for the normal Flora Micro, this to account for my hard 350 PPM water and the lack of a large enough RO filter at the time. It has worked well for me. I just kept my reservoir below 1150 PPM @ .5 conversion and its all good.

One tip - do not pH down this stuff, the hard water micro will drop pH gradually over the next 24 hours, for example I mix up a batch, it is at like 6.2, the next day, its at 5.6-5.8 after running in the system for a while. If I pH downed that to 5.7 before putting it in the system, it ended up as low as 4.8-5.2 by the next day.

My conclusion, the hard water micro was buffering the alkaline crud in my water, it just doesnot do it ASAP fast like the phosphoric acid
Fantastic post! I've read thread after thread on nutes and the lucas formula but this makes the most sense to me.
 
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