Blue Dream Nightmare

Lord Kanti

Lord Kanti

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Every time I put my Blue Dream into flower they start dying off well before finishing time.

24hr veg lighting between sunlight and 600W MH w/ air cooling

Fox Farm Ocean Forest in 5 gallon fabric pots with added perlite.

Water has 150 PPM CaCO3
50 PPM Calcium
2 PPM Magnesium

On transplant:

Seaweed Extract + Western States Vitamin B


Per 5 gallons:
4-2-3 Veg recipe:

1.25 oz. Grow
2.5 oz. Alaskan Fish Emulsion
2.5 oz. Seaweed Extract
15 oz. Urine
2.5 oz. Molasses

1.32-1-2.09 Bloom recipe:
1.25 oz. Liquinox Grow
2.5 oz. Seaweed Extract
3.75 oz. Molasses

Late Bloom recipe:
.625 oz. / 20ml Liquinox Grow
2.5 oz. Seaweed Extract
1.67 oz. / 50ml Molasses

The only thing I can think of is that they outgrow their pots, but even when I flip them smaller I have issue. Could all this be lack of magnesium? They look like they need more N, but I'm hesitant to add more. My other strains have no issue finishing other than me wishing the colas filled in a bit more.
 
ButchyBoy

ButchyBoy

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What in the world is all of that stuff?? Lol....

Sorry.... That looks like a lot of stuff for a weed plant. Looks like multiple problems. What does the soil consist of, just ff? How tall are they?

Edit: I added molasses to one of my plants water and it yellowed in two days.

Edit edit: Don't pee on your plants!
 
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Lord Kanti

Lord Kanti

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Ocean Forest and added perlite. I don't pee on my plants. One plant is maybe 2' tall, the other one is a bonsai. It got stunted and never recovered. Once in a while a clone will do that and I don't have the heart to axe them.
 
SPLFreak808

SPLFreak808

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They only die off in flower? Have you tried keeping the nitrogen going for the first 3 weeks of flower? These bitches are usually hungry as fuck. The plants in your pics are they in flower?
 
Cpappa27

Cpappa27

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But seriously though, give them a quick full dose feeding of a water soluble balanced nutrient like 20-20-20 or 10-10-10. Apparently Blue Dream requires much more food during the transition and the process of flower, good to know.
 
Lord Kanti

Lord Kanti

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Cpappa27 said:
But seriously though, give them a quick full dose feeding of a water soluble balanced nutrient like 20-20-20 or 10-10-10. Apparently Blue Dream requires much more food during the transition and the process of flower, good to know.
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I don't cut off Nitrogen from plants in flower, but I do scale it back in late flower. The Liquinox Grow I use is 10-10-5. Should I increase Grow, or lay down some more urine into the mix...

Blue dream smells amazing after cure, but my yield is struggling. :(
 
Cpappa27

Cpappa27

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Your main ingredient in that stuff is urine (urea). Stop using urine lol. But yes give one a full reccomended dose and give it a good water with that mix. Enough so there is runoff. Also stay away from urine its loaded with salts from what I remember and theres plenty in the nutrient mix
 
Lord Kanti

Lord Kanti

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I'll bump the Grow up to 2.5 oz. per 5 gallons and see how it responds and ween them off my Liquid Gold.
 
Lenny Scroggins

Lenny Scroggins

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They look like they could be staying too wet. Do you let the soil dry out fully between watering. You want the pots to feel like dirt only when you pick them up, you can get a feel for this.
 
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shahomy

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Lord Kanti said:
Every time I put my Blue Dream into flower they start dying off well before finishing time.

24hr veg lighting between sunlight and 600W MH w/ air cooling

Fox Farm Ocean Forest in 5 gallon fabric pots with added perlite.

Water has 150 PPM CaCO3
50 PPM Calcium
2 PPM Magnesium

On transplant:

Seaweed Extract + Western States Vitamin B


Per 5 gallons:
4-2-3 Veg recipe:

1.25 oz. Grow
2.5 oz. Alaskan Fish Emulsion
2.5 oz. Seaweed Extract
15 oz. Urine
2.5 oz. Molasses

1.32-1-2.09 Bloom recipe:
1.25 oz. Liquinox Grow
2.5 oz. Seaweed Extract
3.75 oz. Molasses

Late Bloom recipe:
.625 oz. / 20ml Liquinox Grow
2.5 oz. Seaweed Extract
1.67 oz. / 50ml Molasses

The only thing I can think of is that they outgrow their pots, but even when I flip them smaller I have issue. Could all this be lack of magnesium? They look like they need more N, but I'm hesitant to add more. My other strains have no issue finishing other than me wishing the colas filled in a bit more.
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No offense, but are you sure that`s blue dream? looks nothing like mine...i bought seeds from attitude/humboldt and my plants are short and bushy with fat indica dominant leaves....your leaves look heavy sativa dom to me...

I do see about half a leaf in the lower right hand corner of pic that looks more indica dom...

I don`t think your out growing your pots, i use 5g smart pots and my plants are 4 times that size...

I do see some massive claw on some leaves...n toxic?
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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P&K are too high, too early.....It shows classic P&K tox.........although.....

Hmm...out doors eh?

Do you ever see any "little" fliers around them? Like fungus gnat looking, but smaller?

I'll await your reply and not get you worried by my second possibility....

Doc
 
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brimck325

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shahomy said:
No offense, but are you sure that`s blue dream? looks nothing like mine...i bought seeds from attitude/humboldt and my plants are short and bushy with fat indica dominant leaves....your leaves look heavy sativa dom to me...

I do see about half a leaf in the lower right hand corner of pic that looks more indica dom...

I don`t think your out growing your pots, i use 5g smart pots and my plants are 4 times that size...

I do see some massive claw on some leaves...n toxic?
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that looks a lot like blue dream....bd is a cut, therefore you don't have blue dream.
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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Michael Huntherz said:
Humboldt Seed Organization Blue Dream is Blue Dream. I think BD used to be cut only, but no longer.
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the real bluedream is a clone-only strain, hso is nothing like it. I've seen 20 seeds of hso and none of them resembled the bluedream at all.
The HSO came out long after, the original bluedream.
Original came from around santa cruz if I remember correctly.
blueberry X haze.
I think it was made in the early 2000s?
not sure on either of those, but I AM sure that the HSO is nothing at all like the real bluedream.
 
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