Blue Dream

MediMaryUser

MediMaryUser

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my bd baby that looks like the exact same bud close up shots ive seen in robmars grows and a few other close ups of bd here and there and it came from harborside
 

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jsgrwn

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Steadmanclan said:
you do know that there can be different phenotypes in the same breed don't you? if you were to plant a ten pack of seeds from almost any strain from any breeder, you would see variation in the phenotypes of the plants. especially when it comes to a poly-hybrid like bluedream, which clearly has both indica and sativa heritage. your post comes off kind of snarky and condescending, like you are doubting TLD could really have bluedream... (maybe that's just how i am reading it) don't make yourself look ignorant by doubting the genetics of a plant that you had nothing to do with breeding.

i got a pack of blue mystic seeds from nirvana a while back... there was a sativa dominant pheno that appeared once out of 7 females. the rest were very indca dominant...
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i just saw the pic and started typing. but funny you bring this up since this is a clone only strain. anything grown from a hermie seed off a blue dream is not going to be the original. this is why the nursuries have to keep it going. anyhow, please dont make yourself come off as ignorant. and stop commenting on a strain you have no clue about, not only have you displayed your apparent lack of knowledge on these genes but you frankly got it all wrong. i know much about genetics and have had this strain for about a year, growing it several ways and in several different conditions to find the best yield and quality. so i am very familiar with it. since that pheno thing is outta the way, im going to go talk to loaded

ps. questions can often be offensive, this is not my intent.
 
jsgrwn

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here is my BD at clone, 1 week and 2 weeks, in that order. as you can see my dream has long slender leaves and are rather lanky. this changes in flowering a bit and they get huge buds with pruning (i top and lollipop). i must say when i first got this plant i had no faith, hadnt heard of it and did not like the strechiness. but after a bit of tinkering, i have grown to love it. it is the best producer i have by far. anyhow let me know what ya think loaded
 

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theloadeddragon

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Must be a heavy top producer.... looks good.... that is how it looked when I got them as cuttings..... I am glad I FIM'ed them :D ..... thanks
 
jsgrwn

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so it was the fim, i see. will be giving that a try and we shall see how it goes in a few months. wonder how a plant fimmed at 12 inches and vegged to 24 will do?
 
jsgrwn

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it is, the tops turn into 5-8 gram nugs, i will have to try this fim tech and see how it does on the big dadies
 
theloadeddragon

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Pinch FIM'ing is the only way I to it any more... stimulates bottom stem elongations, increases photosynthesis production in bio mass areas such as green leafy materials, and stimulates the hormonal response of maturity even if it may be early in a plants life ;) ..... I also get Twice as many top colas this way, turning main bottom and mid bottom branches in to top cola producing branches, :D... Topped at 12" flowered at 24" I would anticipate great yields and super dank nugs :)
 
Steadmanclan

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jsgrwn said:
i just saw the pic and started typing. but funny you bring this up since this is a clone only strain. anything grown from a hermie seed off a blue dream is not going to be the original. this is why the nursuries have to keep it going. anyhow, please dont make yourself come off as ignorant. and stop commenting on a strain you have no clue about, not only have you displayed your apparent lack of knowledge on these genes but you frankly got it all wrong. i know much about genetics and have had this strain for about a year, growing it several ways and in several different conditions to find the best yield and quality. so i am very familiar with it. since that pheno thing is outta the way, im going to go talk to loaded

ps. questions can often be offensive, this is not my intent.
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if it is infact a clone only strain, i have seen different plants being called blue dream at different dispensaries. and in my opinion, there is really no way to know exactly what you are getting in clone form from those places. in reality there is nothing to keep people from using the same name that has been used in the past. as such, i don't really think the "pheno thing is outta the way"

obviously you and loaded have different plants that are both called blue dream.... but only yours could be the real one right? there is no way in hell that you just got a female plant that someone called blue dream, that would be impossible. i guess TLD is full of shit... because you were the one that bred the seed right? too bad you only made one.
 
jberry

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blue dream is a clone only strain that has long slender leaves and is known to get lanky but matures with big indica sized colas.

it is also listed in Jason King's Cannabible #3 as a clone only strain from northern california.

the blue dream i grow has slender leaves.

im not trying to keep the shit stirred, im just sharing my info
 
theloadeddragon

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The Blue Dream Does have long slender leaves, and is a clone only strain, so..... who bred what seed??? I got mine from a very trusted source in Northern Cali (clones)..... Blue Dream has quite a few strain specific characteristics in all aspects of the growing and smoking sense, thus it is relatively easy to identify the strain by its inherent traits..... as described, Blue Dream leaves widen out when the plant reaches a maturity level of being ready to flower, and/or beginning to flower..... When I got the cuttings, the leaves were very long and slender, after transplant, and pinch FIM, the leaves have widened out and preflowers have begun to pop up everywhere ;) :).... The Pinch FIM in combination with a slight light trick of altering the light cycle by 6 hrs triggers a response of forced hormonal production increasing biomass production rates when exposed to the blue light spectrum
 
jsgrwn

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nice info, i can see how this could alter the leaf appearance. and i will try topping at 12 istead of 24 and see how one goes. still trying to max out the yield, getting 3-3.5 per, hoping to break 4oz. we shall see.
 
jsgrwn

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Steadmanclan said:
if it is infact a clone only strain, i have seen different plants being called blue dream at different dispensaries. and in my opinion, there is really no way to know exactly what you are getting in clone form from those places. in reality there is nothing to keep people from using the same name that has been used in the past. as such, i don't really think the "pheno thing is outta the way"

obviously you and loaded have different plants that are both called blue dream.... but only yours could be the real one right? there is no way in hell that you just got a female plant that someone called blue dream, that would be impossible. i guess TLD is full of shit... because you were the one that bred the seed right? too bad you only made one.
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hey bubb, check it out...this is a cross between dj short bluberry and a haze. this dj short strain was donated and the breeders (the oaksterdam nursery) turned it into blue dream, and sold it at the old sr-71 coffee shop (now blue sky) as well as affiliate clubs like Fruitridge Wellness Center. This is a strait norcal strain that has made its way all over the US by clone. wow that jsgrwm guy has some insight...perhaps it is because i have been in the MMJ movement for some time. And yes there is a fem plant that is called blue dream, you are slowly confirming my ignorance statement from earlier. let me break it down, seeds get to breeder, breeder crosses them, breeder grows them out, breeder selects the best one, a reveg can occur here to create clone only or cutting taken before flower can be labeled and saved, they are distributed to a select few dispensaries, clubs sell the strain to patients, patiets grow this lovely herb, some create more clones and distribute them to other patients and clubs...some clubs will purchase clones that are claimed to be BD, but some clubs are not the brightest, they basically have to take the vendors word for it. so i can see a few straglers plants out there that are not BD. after a bit of convo from loaded i do not think this is the case with his BD. i think he has the real deal and his technique and nute regiment make the plant look a bit different.:shock:

also steadman, consider that some of the fem clones hermed out and seeded, some may call these BD seeds, when this is not really the case. but anyhhow...yes your statement "there is no way in hell that you just got a female plant that someone called blue dream, that would be impossible" is a very narrow point of view and is quite frankly WRONG. find another thread to spread your BS opinion. we like facts around here...and one more thing, those who have seen the product and grown it out, know what is BD. see medmary's example, looks just like my nugz
 
jberry

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thanks for the oaksterdam BD info jsg...

this strain is really hard to hermie out, and i agree it would not likey hold it's traits.

and i have seen different brand nutes change the look of this strain more than u would think it could... im sure tld has what he says he has.
 
theloadeddragon

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I have noticed that most Clone only strains are EXTREMELY hard to hermie out!!

I have been trying on successive Purple Kush generations..... and a few of my friends run into the same issues.....

Hermie seeds are not exactly what the mother of the hermied plant produced! Its different genetically, as the hormonal differences in the seed development of a hermied plant is not that of the actual seedstock the plant itself came from, thus it will not produce the same plant ;)
 
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