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futant

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Hell no homie...check this out....$250 breeders stash packs! If we blow up social media correctly...sponsor some kind of cup event, rig it...win with said cross...and DOMINO! We just bought Aruba!
laugh all you want but sometimes a pheno is found in those breeder packs that can set a guys life (rest of the pack could be completely ordinary). You just have to understand what you are looking at to tell the "precious child" from the "mendogratefulbreath" is all. By all means if you do not understand cannabis genetics and don't have confidence to trust your own judgement regardless of the criticism of others, then stay away from them, you wont gain from them.
 

Phatlewtz

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While I am similarly very picky in my selection, some of the traits you cull for mean your missing out on some of the strongest/best strains in existence and keeping a lot of plants with grumpy traits. Being picky is good IMO. And I generally cull retarded/weak/slow growing plants within the first couple weeks, but the other things you cull for ie viney/floppy are traits that are proven to show in a lot of the strongest strains.

Means you're at least missing out all of the true ogs and gg4, lol. I would rethink those ones if I were you, but to each their own and if it works for you then more power to you.


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TBH, the only one I feel I'm missing out on is GG4, my plant counts don't really allow me to support/cage everything, tis why I avoid the flops..i pop a lot of beans at a time though, which allows me to get that potency/yield in a representation this one man show can manage :)
 

kmog33

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Same here. But.......this last round [ the goji project ], I let the Mace goji/gdp continue to exist after being both weak and slow, and falling far behind the others. Then, for some reason, it just took off, and within a week of getting a bucket, raced by all the others. It was the 1st to show pistils, and by the 2nd week of flower, had to boost the others height with small crates, as there was no way the Mace's stems were going to be super cropped. The goji and gdp's all look great so far, but this Mace has bigger and frostier buds by far, and dominates the tent. I wasn't planning on cloning it's clone, but I am now. If the smoke turns out well, this could be a k........kee......I can't say it. :cool:
If I have the extra space/count I'll let them go until I need it. Sometimes they get to finish out. Lots of times they end up outside. But Ime the ratio of stars like yours vs true duds, when both start out looking bad, is probably extremely low. That being said, any plant can surprise you :).


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Phatlewtz

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laugh all you want but sometimes a pheno is found in those breeder packs that can set a guys life (rest of the pack could be completely ordinary). You just have to understand what you are looking at to tell the "precious child" from the "mendogratefulbreath" is all. By all means if you do not understand cannabis genetics and don't have confidence to trust your own judgement regardless of the criticism of others, then stay away from them, you wont gain from them.
I believe you missed the point, but thanks for the post! And yes, I will stay away from 250 dollar packs for a lot of reasons, we'll go with no understanding of genetics, I like that one the most :)
 

futant

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I believe you missed the point, but thanks for the post! And yes, I will stay away from 250 dollar packs for a lot of reasons, we'll go with no understanding of genetics, I like that one the most :)
Wasn't try to imply anything about you specifically there. (definately should of had an OR in there instead of an AND, should have clarified thats not the only 2 reasons not to buy the pack apologies if misconstrued).
Just thought it important not to potentially permanently discourage breeder packs entirely for ever even if it is not for them right now.
It does bring up another point gents:
We arent saving the world gents and even the worlds best breeders, if they tell you throwing shit against the wall and seeing what sticks isn't part of their program, they will be old tired shit in no time. I am not suggesting strains should get chucked out at the rate they are right now, I am saying experimentation leads to success. Hating like trolls on new breeders trying their hand would not have produced the kind of results coming from BigWorm say.
All good to knock charging cash for untested stuff; but it would be a mistake to create an unspoken consensus that making seeds without having street cred first is lame.
 

Phatlewtz

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Wasn't try to imply anything about you specifically there.
Just thought it important not to potentially permanently discourage breeder packs entirely for ever even if it is not for them right now.
It does bring up another point gents:
We arent saving the world gents and even the worlds best breeders, if they tell you throwing shit against the wall and seeing what sticks isn't part of their program, they will be old tired shit in no time. I am not suggesting strains should get chucked out at the rate they are right now, I am saying experimentation leads to success. Hating like trolls on new breeders trying their hand would not have produced the kind of results coming from BigWorm say.
All good to knock charging cash for untested stuff; but it would be a mistake to create an unspoken consensus that making seeds without having street cred first is lame.
I agree wholeheartedly brother, wasn't hating on any breeders, those guys work very hard for us...I was just trying to pay for a house in Aruba is all :)
 

Phatlewtz

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Where can I find some more ssdd ?

& wats the verdict on sunshine 4 ?
Shud I cop sum
Also Wat milk strain shud I get
Mothers Cougars etc ?
James Bean and Great Lakes both have SSDD..I've not pulled the trigger on the ss4 yet, lots and lots of SSDD and Goji to run through still....I'd snag mothers milk if I had the choice personally..
 

ShyGuru

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@futant I agree with what you're saying in principle but there are way too many new breeders out there just slinging pollen and charging big bucks for their crosses. Bigworm went about it the right way if you ask me but many don't. I use bodhi as my measuring stick. Bodhi puts out fire so if a new breeder comes out and wants to charge more than he does for basically untested beans I will pass on them. I just find it presumptuous for a new company to try to charge more than the established breeders simply because they have access to a few elite cuts. Just feels like a money grab to me.
 

Trich_holmes

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Keep in mind it aint an issue till a cat starts selling em for cash.
Agreed, I slang pollen and give all crosses to friends and fam who can't afford the addiction I have. I do however have a problem with every week a brand-new breeder pops up, that are supposedly reputable because they've known so-and-so in the industry for so many years. I find that shit laughable. Although I will say I suppose sometimes the price increase is from the vendor not the breeder. Like a one vendor I won't name had Gromer's gear for 250, then he drops restock of them, and said vendor makes the price back to original again. At least DBJ isn't being a cunt and jacking the price of the last few packs of something. Hell DBJ could make a mint off of how many Appy crosses he still has, but nope he's a good guy and keeps the price consistent to the last pack. I also don't understand how fairly untested poly hybrids become the flavor of the weeks, and then all of a sudden rare gems in a week. The hype machine def works it's magic!
 

kmog33

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Agreed, I slang pollen and give all crosses to friends and fam who can't afford the addiction I have. I do however have a problem with every week a brand-new breeder pops up, that are supposedly reputable because they've known so-and-so in the industry for so many years. I find that shit laughable. Although I will say I suppose sometimes the price increase is from the vendor not the breeder. Like a one vendor I won't name had Gromer's gear for 250, then he drops restock of them, and said vendor makes the price back to original again. At least DBJ isn't being a cunt and jacking the price of the last few packs of something. Hell DBJ could make a mint off of how many Appy crosses he still has, but nope he's a good guy and keeps the price consistent to the last pack. I also don't understand how fairly untested poly hybrids become the flavor of the weeks, and then all of a sudden rare gems in a week. The hype machine def works it's magic!
SourpAtch?


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Trich_holmes

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Greenline, which doesn't surprise me the guy comes off as an asshole on Instagram, fights with breeders, sends followers to troll said breeder and other vendors, gets people kicked on IG. On top of all that he's been accused of swapping packs which I've heard about other people but you always take that with a grain of salt, some people just like to hate. But then you find out the guy doesn't even smoke and he grows commercial style for dispensaries, it kind of makes past claims a little more reasonable...him and sour patch do argue like girls though..
 

TimeToBurn

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Agreed, I slang pollen and give all crosses to friends and fam who can't afford the addiction I have. I do however have a problem with every week a brand-new breeder pops up, that are supposedly reputable because they've known so-and-so in the industry for so many years. I find that shit laughable. Although I will say I suppose sometimes the price increase is from the vendor not the breeder. Like a one vendor I won't name had Gromer's gear for 250, then he drops restock of them, and said vendor makes the price back to original again. At least DBJ isn't being a cunt and jacking the price of the last few packs of something. Hell DBJ could make a mint off of how many Appy crosses he still has, but nope he's a good guy and keeps the price consistent to the last pack. I also don't understand how fairly untested poly hybrids become the flavor of the weeks, and then all of a sudden rare gems in a week. The hype machine def works it's magic!
Its getting worse. I just saw a random grower find 2 DVG Citrus Farmer packs in his stash and he's offering them starting at $250 since DVG auctioned 1 off for $250. I'm new on IG and I've already seen 3 or 4 breeders or seed sellers auctioning packs for one reason or another. Now every Tom, Dick and Harry thinks they will auction their old packs for hundreds of dollars.
 

Amos Otis

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@futant I just find it presumptuous for a new company to try to charge more than the established breeders simply because they have access to a few elite cuts. Just feels like a money grab to me.
I don't disagree, but.....some folks still exist in remote territory, and those money grabbing pollen chuckers are about all the access there is. IHG is a good example. Low cost 10 packs of fems at TDT looked like a gamble worth taking, and though one fem pack has been all Bruces, the recent chop, even smoked fresh, is top notch weed, imo. You just have to be prepared for the worst [pop backups], and adjust expectations. I just hit jack"pot". [ha ha ha etc]:weed:
 

skunkwreck

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I don't disagree, but.....some folks still exist in remote territory, and those money grabbing pollen chuckers are about all the access there is. IHG is a good example. Low cost 10 packs of fems at TDT looked like a gamble worth taking, and though one fem pack has been all Bruces, the recent chop, even smoked fresh, is top notch weed, imo. You just have to be prepared for the worst [pop backups], and adjust expectations. I just hit jack"pot". [ha ha ha etc]:weed:
Exactly...we all don't live in legal states but we manage to get by at times .
 

futant

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Its getting worse. I just saw a random grower find 2 DVG Citrus Farmer packs in his stash and he's offering them starting at $250 since DVG auctioned 1 off for $250. I'm new on IG and I've already seen 3 or 4 breeders or seed sellers auctioning packs for one reason or another. Now every Tom, Dick and Harry thinks they will auction their old packs for hundreds of dollars.
still better than them never ever getting popped.
 
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