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MustangStudFarm

MustangStudFarm

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Amos Otis said:
Just another reason to love hydro. bongsmilie
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I am sorry man! I didnt mean anything by it. You have been pretty cool to me and I dont want to ruin it over a little comment.

If it makes you feel any better, I am running CO2 and a mini split A/C that keeps the room at 72F and RH at 35%, plus they are under a gavita 1000w DE lamp. Almost feel like I am cheating. I was excited to get my SSDD in the same room as some of that CO2!!! I got the bulk of my fertilizer for free, just had to scoop it up lol. A trailer load of rabbit manure, it's pure and has no filler such as dirt, yummy!!!
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Amos Otis

Amos Otis

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greasemonkeymann said:
to each their own, but for every reason you have FOR hydro, I got two for organics.
but I don't try and tell people what type of food, women or cars to drive.
Besides the organics will win the pepsi challenge 6 days a week and twice on sundays
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MustangStudFarm said:
I am sorry man! I didnt mean anything by it. You have been pretty cool to me and I dont want to ruin it over a little comment.
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Whao, fácil hay amigos!

It was just a throw away line on a slow day. Have a toke or three......meds make it better, no?:eyesmoke:
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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hillbill said:
What are these "grass clippings" you speak of?
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just saying if you make a real easy compost pile of leaves and grass clippings, that you can sub out a lot if not all of peat or coco, and to a degree many of the nutrients.
That being said within reason. You'll still benefit from other additives, slow release nutrients in particular , the compost itself will sustain vigorous (surprisingly vigorous) growth for all the vege stage (provided it's not extensive).
not to mention the end product is pure humus, loaded with microbes, worms, etc. the leaves themselves have a higher macro value than manure, is ph neutral, a SUPER high CEC.
I've grown almost everyway possible (the exception being DWC) and the tastiest nicest plants you'll ever grow is with a simple fresh compost.
it's not my invention, I take no credit for it at all.
But try it man..
not to mention its great for the environment, the grass you get for free, the leaves you get for free. its all FREE.
not many things in life are the best option (in my opinion), when they are free.
but you hydro guys keep buying your bottles, that's your call, I don't knock people for their preferences at all.
and everybody thinks their method is the best, naturally.

And of course I understand it's not for everyone, but given the room, and resources, if you can? I suggest giving it a shot.
I would be willing to bet my substantial reproductive organs that you'd never go back.
 
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ShyGuru

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greasemonkeymann said:
just saying if you make a real easy compost pile of leaves and grass clippings, that you can sub out a lot if not all of peat or coco, and to a degree many of the nutrients.
That being said within reason. You'll still benefit from other additives, slow release nutrients in particular , the compost itself will sustain vigorous (surprisingly vigorous) growth for all the vege stage (provided it's not extensive).
not to mention the end product is pure humus, loaded with microbes, worms, etc. the leaves themselves have a higher macro value than manure, is ph neutral, a SUPER high CEC.
I've grown almost everyway possible (the exception being DWC) and the tastiest nicest plants you'll ever grow is with a simple fresh compost.
it's not my invention, I take no credit for it at all.
But try it man..
not to mention its great for the environment, the grass you get for free, the leaves you get for free. its all FREE.
not many things in life are the best option (in my opinion), when they are free.
but you hydro guys keep buying your bottles, that's your call, I don't knock people for their preferences at all.
and everybody thinks their method is the best, naturally.

And of course I understand it's not for everyone, but given the room, and resources, if you can? I suggest giving it a shot.
I would be willing to bet my substantial reproductive organs that you'd never go back.
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What ratio of grass to leaves? How long do you have to let it sit to breakdown? Do you use any other sources of nutrients or is that the main bulk of it? I got leaves and I got grass so what the hell? Why not give it a shot and see for myself. Just looking for a step by step to your methods.
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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ShyGuru said:
What ratio of grass to leaves? How long do you have to let it sit to breakdown? Do you use any other sources of nutrients or is that the main bulk of it? I got leaves and I got grass so what the hell? Why not give it a shot and see for myself. Just looking for a step by step to your methods.
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welllll... that's a bigass con-o-worms there..
don't wann threadjack this that badly, let me see if I got some good homesteading links..
http://www.planetnatural.com/composting-101/

I have a thread more catered to cannabis, my theory is for thousands of yrs cannabis is adjusted and evolved to wanting the prior yrs leaves as a the primary input for the nitrogen.

In nature annuals rely on their prior generations cast off and decomposing organic matter to supply the next yrs nutrient requirements, so my theory is using that(harvested cannabis leaves) as well as a carbon input (such as dry tree leaves) that the ensuing compost is the CLOSEST thing you can get to a natural grow. Replicating almost precisely what the plant has evolved to use of thousands of yrs
Not because that is important, necessarily, i'm not saying this to be elitist, i'm saying that because it gets the BEST results.
just try it and see.
sorta fun too, if you are a lil weird, like me
 
shorelineOG

shorelineOG

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greasemonkeymann said:
Organic soil with organic nutrients?

no till is good for about three runs on a quick vege.
after that you MUST reamend with fresh humus and nutrients.
in my opinion.
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I am using a combination of organic and synthetic. I have noticed on my organic grows that a couple of feedings with a synthetic nutrient early in flower really increases yield. Also even if completely organic, try a few inches of hydroton for the top layer, use it like mulch, the roots love being able to breathe. I do a lot of side by sides with soil and hydro and hydro outperforms always.
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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shorelineOG said:
I am using a combination of organic and synthetic. I have noticed on my organic grows that a couple of feedings with a synthetic nutrient early in flower really increases yield. Also even if completely organic, try a few inches of hydroton for the top layer, use it like mulch, the roots love being able to breathe. I do a lot of side by sides with soil and hydro and hydro outperforms always.
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typically an abundance of chelated nutrients will make a hydro plant outgrow an organic one, i'm not obtuse in that regard. I never said organics will grow bigger plants, just better.

my toplayer is catered to microbial life and diversity, almost pure compost, and worm castings, I get bushy white roots sticking out through the soil that way, what works super well, especially in the heat, is put wet cardboard ontop of soil, and the roots will literally grow through the cardboard in about a week.

growing herb is cool in that every grower has their quirks, and we all think our results are predicated on our love and attention, when often times (myself included, especially when I was younger) the plant often succeeds in spite of our efforts, rather than because of them.
i mean lets face it, cannabis is REAL easy to grow..
compared to lets say... orchids.. or deer-foot ferns, or certain violets..
shit if you can get an orchid to re-flower and grow each year??? Now THAT takes some skill and love.. those fuckers are hard to keep, well at least here in CA
 
Crab Pot

Crab Pot

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shorelineOG said:
I am using a combination of organic and synthetic. I have noticed on my organic grows that a couple of feedings with a synthetic nutrient early in flower really increases yield. Also even if completely organic, try a few inches of hydroton for the top layer, use it like mulch, the roots love being able to breathe. I do a lot of side by sides with soil and hydro and hydro outperforms always.
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Hydro outperforms no-till in quality??? What you been smokin' my friend....
 
JDGreen

JDGreen

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Anywhoo

Im tryn to leave behind my last bottle of addictive. Its a silica soil drench....Anybody kno how to get silica for a soil drench that is water soluble organically. Theres gotta b a way to derive thees.
 
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