SFnone
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I personally don't mind the garlic taste- one of the tastes I don't like is the chem 4 janitorial cleaning chemical thing.
bodhi seeds
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SFnone
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MR/Mrs B can take a while to respond- it's just the way it is- they are busy people. I'm sure they will reply eventually.
thezephyr
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my email specifically said not to make f2's until the strain is released. Bodhi said that he doesn't want to risk a tester contaminating the gene pool if it turns out to be unstable.
direct quote:
* also please wait for the line to be released before breeding with the testers. if the line turns out sub par we don’t want the genes released into the greater gene pool. we are working together to coax out the pinnacles of cannabis expression here on earth.
reallybigjesusfreak
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a month or two ago in this thread there was a pretty big discussion about whether or not you would get more testers, replies, anything. I think the general consensus is that a lot of times, no, you wont get an email back or anything.
reallybigjesusfreak
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cool. I did not get that in my email.
1kemosabe
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Why not post your grow and report right here ?
mr. childs
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thats what i got from jungle spice, like mr clean scrubbing bubbles paste, at least to me...
mr. childs
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rightfully so, just saying bodhi is my favorite breeder is an understatement...
Jp.the.pope
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If not labeled as something else (ie. F3, F4 etc) then they should be F1 hybrids.
40AmpstoFreedom
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Yeah lookin like a wanker to me man ;\
thezephyr
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sure man, it's pretty long though. I had some problems in the first round and did a second grow from clone, unfortunately the line turned out to be unstable.
If any of the other ethiopian banana hybrids make it to release, I will definitely pick those up because there were a couple amazing phenos in this line.
flower time
53 days for the shortest finisher 66 days for the longest
stretch
2 phenos stretch a lot (pheno 3 and 4)
1 pheno literally grows like a vine with lateral shoots and branches, it likes to grow onto the other plants for support (pheno 5 vine pheno)
2 phenos grow a lot in early flowering but have good node spacing (pheno 1 and 2)
issues (stress)
I had some issues in the first round from seed, including light burn and a timer failure for the 2 longest flowering phenos after the others had been harvested. Every plant popped a few bananas in the first round. I wanted to be able to give clear and definite results, so I did a second grow from clones. There were no issues in round 2, and no stress.
I grew everything except pheno 1 again. I did a second grow with strong clones so that I could determine whether the herms were stress induced or genetic.
There were no issues on the second round, and unfortunately the line is not stable. 3/4 phenos hermed on round 2 with little or no stress, and the 4th pheno grows a tiny unfertilized seed in each calyx.
plant size
The plants were very large on the first round. The second round from clone, I grew the plants very small so I could be certain there would be no light burn or shading.
yield
round 1 large plants from seed
pheno 1- 3.16 ounces (89.7 grams)
pheno 2- 1.51 ounces (42.8 grams)
pheno 3- 1.52 ounces (43 grams)
pheno 4- 2.15 ounces (42.8 grams)
pheno 5- 1.39 ounces (39.4 grams)
round 2 very small plants from clone
pheno 2- 1.08 ounces (30.6 grams)
pheno 3- 0.5 ounce (14.8 grams)
pheno 4a- 0.4 ounce (11.3 grams)
pheno 4b- 0.73 ounce (20.6 grams)
aroma
very diverse, but they are all very sweet and have notes of exotic fruits.
pheno 1: cream, rose, peach and stone fruit, toasty, sweet desert wine. very pleasant, mild, and desert-like.
pheno 2: alien fruit, smells cold. This one is really weird, I have no idea how to describe it, other than that it smells like unidentifiable exotic fruits, with an icy note that isn't anything like mint or menthol.
pheno 3: When you open the jar, it smells very strongly of butterscotch with a hint of orange. The buds themselves smell like cactus cooler soda, fresh peach, gasoline, and peach gummy.
pheno 4: citrus and melon with sweet alfalfa grassy undertones. this one could be mistaken for some kind of old school haze variant.
pheno 5: Pine forest floor, mangosteen and lychee, juniper berry, and some kind of sweet dark berry jam. this one smells very interesting.
effect
very diverse, medium to high potency. To get an idea for my tolerance, I smoke a about 2 grams a day or less. I also smoked out or gave samples to friends so I could cross reference and see if they got a similar effect.
Pheno 2 is an excellent, smooth, happy, relaxing, sunshine feeling sativa that borders on psychedelic if you smoke it all day. I really like this one. it is very recreational and great for playing guitar or drawing for a few hours. It helps with my baseline pain, and gives me some energy to move around.
Pheno 3 is a full body headrush when harvested early. when harvested late, it has the same experience plus a very familiar kush like high. this one could be an elite cut if it weren't for the herm trait.
Pheno 4 is not as potent as the others, and is a mild bright sativa that leaves you happy and alert. medium-low potency. You could mistake this for some kind of old school haze variant in its smell, appearance, and effect.
Pheno 5 is an insane, overstimulating confusion. everyone who has smoked it experiences a wild 15 minute blast of confusion, racing thoughts, and mild apprehension, before the high smooths out into a crazy electric sativa high. Personally, I really don't enjoy this effect. Harvested as late as possible, the 15 minute blast is gone but the effect is still long lasting crazy cracky sativa.
Pheno 1 is my favorite, the high is really really pleasant, and kind of hard to describe. the effect is very comfortable. Excellent for mood, relaxation, and contemplation. This is definitely a no ceiling high. Each hit is mild but definite, increasing and subtly changing the high from an overall stoney well-being, relaxation, and comfort that spreads through your entire body on the first hit, into a very heady almost psychedelic sativa experience after you've been hitting it for several hours. I like to pack small bowls of this, get a nice full, hit and hold it in forever. This pheno has a really pleasant psychedelic headrush if you hold it in. The exhale tastes like buttery cream and rose with a hint of toast.
bag appeal
2 are very appealing, colorful, uniquely constructed old school bud. One has fat fall colored rounded sticky indica nugs, and the other is a delicate, ornate but alien looking heirloom sativa type. One is pale green and has an og kush-like bud construction. one makes chunky sativa spears.
The only one I don't like visually has tiny calyxes, and overall looks and smells like it might just be a generic haze.
overall impression (be honest)
This strain grew some very high quality, very unique and wonderful smelling bud.
3 phenos produce incredible quality bud, but they have herm traits, and two of them are low yielding. 2 are excellent old school heirloom types, the third looks like a current elite cut. Even though I can't keep these long term, they are good enough that I have to grow them all at least twice so I can have a decent cache of this flower. The old school phenos have completely unique uplifting highs, and there is no limit to the high. This really is a 'no ceiling' high.
The vine pheno was really unique and fun to grow, but the effect is just too crazy for it to be medicinal, or even recreational on a regular basis.
One pheno is too similar to a haze in its smell, appearance, and effect. This is the only pheno that isn't a herm but it has some undesirable traits that don't show up in any of the other phenos. It grows a tiny, non-viable, un-pollinated seed in each calyx which makes it harsh.
I think that even though this cross is unstable, and had a few phenos that I don't like, I want to try other variants of the ethiopian banana. The fact that the high on these two phenos has no limit is really special to me, and I think it's definitely worth exploring more possibilities for this heirloom sativa.
keeper?
No. Unfortunately the line doesn't seem to be stable. I'm really glad I grew it, these were very unique plants with very interesting highs. Even though they're herms, I like the pheno 1 and pheno 2 well enough that I'll still grow them again and build up a decent stash before I junk the clones, but they're not true keepers.
mrrager420
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Interesting. I got spice similar to the way potpourri smells. That and citrus. Tasted just like it smelled too. Loved it.
SFnone
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yeah, that looks the same as my goji. mine was all over the plant, and it started growing excess off-shoot branches too- thing just went nuts... then got "nuts". not saying that will happen to you, but you might want to watch it.
SFnone
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I've never grow jungle spice, but every chem 4 dom strain I've ever grown smells and tastes like windex and bleach. at first I thought it was cool, but I quickly tired of the flavor. sort of like licking hand-sanitizer.