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JHashmore

JHashmore

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From what I’ve experienced other than sending the soil out of whack by adding some form of liquid nutrient or compost tea that over inoculates or sends PH hyper out of whack you are unlikely to see major deficiencies in this type of organic grow. If you see something like calmag you can fix it with foliage spray with Epsom salt in some water. Anything major major I have never personally dealt with and it would mean something is drastically missing which is unlikely from what your mix looks like. It’s true that you aren’t able to really quick fix things but you are also periodically top dressing to keep the soil active and this is bringing all the major nutrients with it and a lot of micros too. Again the only time I have seen drastic problems is when I personally did something to cause it like over fermenting some concoction that I added to the soil.

I just amend with a thin layer of EWC, some malted barley and maybe a handful of kelp meal or alfalfa. I haven’t had any phosphorous problems which I guess maybe you may expect going into flower. The plants are designed to find the nutrients they need and this way of growing allows them to develop that ability rather than waiting at the feeding trough for nutrients like a trained animal. I started to understand this while growing Panama Red as it’s pretty nute sensitive and does really well in organic with minimal additions. These plants are used to fending for themselves outdoors and making the best of their situation.

If you see a deficiency that is glaring you can amend for it but it will likely kick in for later or the next cycle. Again this is going to be rare with your setup. 30 gallons is going to be a massive rootball. I have heard reports that when you are growing Mendo style trees you can start to become deficient in copper and boron or zinc but that’s really pushing the soil and I have yet to personally see that but I’m also not in Mendo or growing 20LB trees.

If you see something going sideways you could use a compost tea geared towards flowering (like fat flowers from dragonfly earth medicine) Or make your own as they post their ingredients. It’s basically a handful of EWC with 1/4 c molasses and some either plants (blackberry bush etc) or a powder like the dragonfly products and let it sit for a couple days and stir it, or make a bubbler but probably not as necessary as gets touted.

Last year I did some side by sides and honestly found the plant I did almost NOTHING to did the best and I think it’s because it fully was able to develop naturally in its own pot.

One last thing which is probably the most important is Mulching, mulching the surface fairly heavily is very important. You want that layer under the mulch basically staying moist all the time as this is the nutrient factory for the whole system. Sort of like the forest floor there is always leaves/brush etc being broken down and these nutrients seep into the soil. Our nutrients would be the EWC malted barley, kelp etc. I do the thin layer of EWC maybe some barley and then recover with the mulch. For mulch you can use leaves (best), some straw - this is most likely sprayed in glyphosate which fucks with our digestive systems so either try to find organic or just use leaves from the forest . You can also use fir bark mulch which I thought might be bad but has actually worked well for me so far. It’s very easy to think you don’t need mulch but do not skip it! If you don’t mulch your surface will dry out bad the biology will die and essentially create its own layer of dead soil mulch so you may as well put proper mulch down yourself. Deciduous tree leaves are great, look around in the forest (if you can) for leaves, the ones that are breaking down or an old pile are great this leaf mould is considered “black gold”

I just top dress based on feel and I have a look at the soil surface, the plants will send roots out into your top dress and use it up every couple of weeks ish (ballpark) and I just re up as I see fit which works for me.

To keep this on track here’s a photo of my outdoor. It’s testers from Bodhi mostly. I didn’t receive them for a loooong time cause I’m in Canada so some of them are now being tested outdoors.

In the pic are the following
Ethiopian banana x 88g13hahsplant
Pakistani Chitral Kush x purple unicorn
Persian delight x strawberry milk
Bubba Kush x Panama Red CBD (coastal) (my own Chuck, not Bodhi)
The rest are males or experiments that I haven’t yet had the heart to turf yet.
 

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growslut

growslut

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JHashmore said:
From what I’ve experienced other than sending the soil out of whack by adding some form of liquid nutrient or compost tea that over inoculates or sends PH hyper out of whack you are unlikely to see major deficiencies in this type of organic grow. If you see something like calmag you can fix it with foliage spray with Epsom salt in some water. Anything major major I have never personally dealt with and it would mean something is drastically missing which is unlikely from what your mix looks like. It’s true that you aren’t able to really quick fix things but you are also periodically top dressing to keep the soil active and this is brining all the major nutrients with it and a lot of micros too. Again the only time I have seen drastic problems is when I personally did something to cause it like over fermenting some concoction that I added to the soil.

I just amend with a thin layer of EWC, some malted barley and maybe a handful of kelp meal or alfalfa. I haven’t had any phosphorous problems which I guess maybe you may expect going into flower. The plants are designed to find he nutrients hey need and this way of growing allows them to develop that ability rather than waiting at the feeding trough for nutrients like a trained animal. I started to understand this while growing Panama Red as it’s pretty nute sensitive and does really well in organic with minimal additions. These plants are used to fending for themselves outdoors and making the best of their situation.

If you see a deficiency that is glaring you can amend for it but it will likely kick in for later or the next cycle. Again this is going to be rare with your setup. 30 gallons is going to be a massive rootball. I have heard reports that when you are growing Mendo style trees you can start to become deficient in copper and boron or zinc but that’s really pushing the soil and I have yet to personally see that but I’m also not in Mendo or growing 20LB trees.

If you see something going sideways you could use a compost tea geared towards flowering (like fat flowers from dragonfly earth medicine) Or make your own as they post their ingredients. It’s basically a handful of EWC with 1/4 c molasses and some either plants (blackberry bush etc) or a powder like the dragonfly products and let it sit for a couple days and stir it, or make a bubbler but probably not as necessary as gets touted.

Last year I did some side by sides and honestly found the plant I did almost NOTHING to did the best and I think it’s because it fully was able to develop naturally in its own pot.

One last thing which is probably the most important is Mulching, mulching the surface fairly heavily is very important. You want that layer under the mulch basically staying moist all the time as this is the nutrient factory for the whole system. Sort of like the forest floor there is always leaves/brush etc being broken down and these nutrients seep into the soil. Our nutrients would be the EWC malted barley, kelp etc. I do the thin layer of EWC maybe some barley and then recover with the mulch. For mulch you can use leaves (best), some straw - this is most likely sprayed in glyphosate which fucks with our digestive systems so either try to find organic or just use leaves from the forest . You can also use for bark mulch which I thought might be bad but has actually worked well for me so far. It’s very easy to think you don’t need mulch but do not skip it! If you don’t mulch your surface will dry out bad the biology will die and essentially create its own layer of dead soil mulch so you may as well put proper mulch down yourself. Deciduous tree leaves are great, look around in the forest (if you can) for leaves, the ones that are braking down or an old pile are great this leaf mould is considered “black gold”

I just top dress based on feel and I have a look at the soil surface, the plants will send roots out into your top dress and use it up every couple of weeks ish (ballpark) and I just re up as I see fit which works for me.

To keep this on track here’s a photo of my outdoor. It’s testers from Bodhi mostly. I didn’t receive them for a loooong time cause I’m in Canada so some of them are now being tested outdoors.

In the pic are the following
Ethiopian banana x 88g13hahsplant
Pakistani Chitral Kush x purple unicorn
Persian delight x strawberry milk
Bubba Kush x Panama Red CBD (coastal) (my own Chuck, not Bodhi)
The rest are males or experiments that I haven’t yet had the heart to turf yet.
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Awesome. Thanks so much for all the info. Yup. Phoshporus def in flower is what I am a bit worried about, but guess this round will be the test run. Its good to know that less is more.

Really appreciate your explaining everything in detail, especially the value of mulch.
 
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mr. childs

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i know its bodhi... but the shape & structure of this plant & the fact that has shown sex already, lean neither towards silver mountain or pleiadian love nest which are the two parents. dealing with my family it could be anything that they threw out there though by my patch trying to help & be nice. gotta wait until october...20190522_190433.jpg 20190522_160027.jpg20190522_160027.jpg these are what i expected to see20190522_190442.jpgi even somehow had a bean fly into the neighbors yard... a female at that... i asked if he wanted to keep it, no was his response so i plucked it & replanted on my side of the fence20190522_190801.jpg
 
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Jaybodankly

Jaybodankly

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growslut said:
I plan on growing no-till organic outdoors this year for the first time, and can someone help me out with the math? I've got good compost with a mixture of pumice and perlite getting prepped for 30 gallon fabric pots, how much amendments should I add to each?

I plan on using:
Oyster meal
Neem Meal
Diatomaceous Earth (silica)
Epson Salt
Bokashi
Humic Acid

Also, is there anything else I should add? Especially to help the plant cope with heat over the 100+ degree summer?
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Shade cloth 10-15% break the heat but still get plenty of light.
 
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Diet Pepsi Terps

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Got home from work and my 70-something year old homie "River Patrol" was waiting for me with a big fat nug of who knows what. All I know is that it must be something I gave him last year. We bless each other like that.


danjac82 said:
Hey man..I know this is a Bodhi thread but you said you like sativa effects from plants with indica growth pattern and it made me instantly think of one of my all time favorite strains. Kali China (Old Kali Mist x China Yunnan) from Ace seeds. Short plants that fully finish in 8 weeks flower. It’s inbred to an f5 now and is stable. Not the biggest yields but the smell is incredible. Incense, mango and violets are the main smells but there’s an exotic kind of woodiness in the background. Purple tints through the buds on a lot of the plants. Tastes like it smells and is very uplifting and calming at same time. Good to get up and go or chill. Lots of laughs from this strain. I miss it and plant to run again in the near future. I tell you i smoked that bud everyday all day for months and did not get tired of it. It’s delivers itself on the money every time. Effect is top notch. Little know plant it seems but it’s a good one and a respectable breeder.
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I've got a beautiful Orient Express (Yunnan x Vietnamese Black) ready to flower. Stoked to read this post.

Back to Bodhi, I promise.


danjac82 said:
With the Wookie crosses..does the Wookie seem to come through a lot? First time Bodhi grower here. I cloned a male of the phone Home and Soul mate. Probably will clone them before I toss them in the trash..might do it a few times before I decide to grow them out and make some f2s of these...if I like the smoke enough.
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I was thinking about doing a post about this: I think the Wookie adds a really nice twist to some already special cuts. It seems to give them a little better structure, too. I preferred Soul Mate over pure Goji, and while I've never smoked Lucky Charms, Lucky Wookie is a definite upgrade over The White. In both Soul Mate and Lucky Wookie, I notice a certain similarity that I attribute to the Wookie... and it's a really good similiarity. I hear Space Monkey does something similar to GG4, and I'm flowering a Granola Funk right now. (I have doubts that it will improve the GSC.)

If you are concerned about the "Lavender" or some kind of fruity terps, I wouldn't worry. I haven't gotten a hint of that bs smoking the two Wookie strains I've grown. Really, it seems like the Wookie adds a "funk" It's not really a nasty funk, but it's a "pot smell" more than anything else. It just smells like dank ass bud to me. (I might not be much of a grower, but I know buds!)

growslut said:
I plan on growing no-till organic outdoors this year for the first time, and can someone help me out with the math? I've got good compost with a mixture of pumice and perlite getting prepped for 30 gallon fabric pots, how much amendments should I add to each?

I plan on using:
Oyster meal
Neem Meal
Diatomaceous Earth (silica)
Epson Salt
Bokashi
Humic Acid

Also, is there anything else I should add? Especially to help the plant cope with heat over the 100+ degree summer?
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I'm trying to get the no-till thang going on outdoors this summer, too. I cheated, though, and bought some Empire Builder soil. Gonna read up some this weekend and get these plants out of my garage!

But, about the 100+ degree summer, I think it's about watering daily. A good soaking every morning, and the sun/heat never bother my plants. Now, those freaking caterpillars on the other hand........ : (
 
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rollinfunk

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Diet Pepsi Terps said:
Got home from work and my 70-something year old homie "River Patrol" was waiting for me with a big fat nug of who knows what. All I know is that it must be something I gave him last year. We bless each other like that.




I've got a beautiful Orient Express (Yunnan x Vietnamese Black) ready to flower. Stoked to read this post.

Back to Bodhi, I promise.




I was thinking about doing a post about this: I think the Wookie adds a really nice twist to some already special cuts. It seems to give them a little better structure, too. I preferred Soul Mate over pure Goji, and while I've never smoked Lucky Charms, Lucky Wookie is a definite upgrade over The White. In both Soul Mate and Lucky Wookie, I notice a certain similarity that I attribute to the Wookie... and it's a really good similiarity. I hear Space Monkey does something similar to GG4, and I'm flowering a Granola Funk right now. (I have doubts that it will improve the GSC.)

If you are concerned about the "Lavender" or some kind of fruity terps, I wouldn't worry. I haven't gotten a hint of that bs smoking the two Wookie strains I've grown. Really, it seems like the Wookie adds a "funk" It's not really a nasty funk, but it's a "pot smell" more than anything else. It just smells like dank ass bud to me. (I might not be much of a grower, but I know buds!)



I'm trying to get the no-till thang going on outdoors this summer, too. I cheated, though, and bought some Empire Builder soil. Gonna read up some this weekend and get these plants out of my garage!

But, about the 100+ degree summer, I think it's about watering daily. A good soaking every morning, and the sun/heat never bother my plants. Now, those freaking caterpillars on the other hand........ : (
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Wookie dom smell like lavender bo chemdog stank funk to me. varying degrees of lavender but that chem stank is there. I have one that has a lot of twisted leaves. Not sure if it's pH or genetics?
 
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Diet Pepsi Terps

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rollinfunk said:
Wookie dom smell like lavender bo chemdog stank funk to me. varying degrees of lavender but that chem stank is there. I have one that has a lot of twisted leaves. Not sure if it's pH or genetics?
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Good point, there probably are phenos out there with more lavender than I had. I have really enjoyed the Wookie so far, but I don't have experience with different phenos.
 
danjac82

danjac82

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You could always cheat and use some happy frog or Epsoma dry ferts. Keeps em green and happ
Diet Pepsi Terps said:
Got home from work and my 70-something year old homie "River Patrol" was waiting for me with a big fat nug of who knows what. All I know is that it must be something I gave him last year. We bless each other like that.




I've got a beautiful Orient Express (Yunnan x Vietnamese Black) ready to flower. Stoked to read this post.

Back to Bodhi, I promise.




I was thinking about doing a post about this: I think the Wookie adds a really nice twist to some already special cuts. It seems to give them a little better structure, too. I preferred Soul Mate over pure Goji, and while I've never smoked Lucky Charms, Lucky Wookie is a definite upgrade over The White. In both Soul Mate and Lucky Wookie, I notice a certain similarity that I attribute to the Wookie... and it's a really good similiarity. I hear Space Monkey does something similar to GG4, and I'm flowering a Granola Funk right now. (I have doubts that it will improve the GSC.)

If you are concerned about the "Lavender" or some kind of fruity terps, I wouldn't worry. I haven't gotten a hint of that bs smoking the two Wookie strains I've grown. Really, it seems like the Wookie adds a "funk" It's not really a nasty funk, but it's a "pot smell" more than anything else. It just smells like dank ass bud to me. (I might not be much of a grower, but I know buds!)



I'm trying to get the no-till thang going on outdoors this summer, too. I cheated, though, and bought some Empire Builder soil. Gonna read up some this weekend and get these plants out of my garage!

But, about the 100+ degree summer, I think it's about watering daily. A good soaking every morning, and the sun/heat never bother my plants. Now, those freaking caterpillars on the other hand........ : (
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good info. My Soul Mate and Phone Homes have very similar structure. Gonna be some frosty girls I can tell that much already. Having hopped around from breeder to breeder, I’m going to check out some more bodhi strains for a few grows. Two Wookie crosses this run. Going to do two 88g13hp crosses next. Looking at Lazy lightning (Loompa headband x 88g13hp) and More Cowbell (gsc x 88g13hp). Possibly the raspberry Hashplant for the ladies..lol
 
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Diet Pepsi Terps

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danjac82 said:
You could always cheat and use some happy frog or Epsoma dry ferts. Keeps em green and happ

good info. My Soul Mate and Phone Homes have very similar structure. Gonna be some frosty girls I can tell that much already. Having hopped around from breeder to breeder, I’m going to check out some more bodhi strains for a few grows. Two Wookie crosses this run. Going to do two 88g13hp crosses next. Looking at Lazy lightning (Loompa headband x 88g13hp) and More Cowbell (gsc x 88g13hp). Possibly the raspberry Hashplant for the ladies..lol
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I did More Cowbell and Raspberry Hashplant, too. They were both outstanding, too. I mean, like wow. My Raspberry Hashplant was not fruity either... but my wife did love it.

Personally, I haven't had as many "blah" plants with Bodhi as I have with other breeders. Lotus Larry was blah, but literally all other Bodhi I've grown has been great genes. With other breeders, I have had a higher rate of wackness.
 
danjac82

danjac82

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Diet Pepsi Terps said:
I did More Cowbell and Raspberry Hashplant, too. They were both outstanding, too. I mean, like wow. My Raspberry Hashplant was not fruity either... but my wife did love it.

Personally, I haven't had as many "blah" plants with Bodhi as I have with other breeders. Lotus Larry was blah, but literally all other Bodhi I've grown has been great genes. With other breeders, I have had a higher rate of wackness.
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Great to hear. There’s a hell of a lot of choices for sure. More Cowbell just has an awesome name and genetics. I’m looking for a special strain and pheno that’s makes a big enough impression to run for a few years. Something that stands out among the fire.
 
Cali.Grown>408

Cali.Grown>408

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Have any pics of your Goji Raz x 88g13HP?? I just ordered some of those seeds
Diet Pepsi Terps said:
I did More Cowbell and Raspberry Hashplant, too. They were both outstanding, too. I mean, like wow. My Raspberry Hashplant was not fruity either... but my wife did love it.

Personally, I haven't had as many "blah" plants with Bodhi as I have with other breeders. Lotus Larry was blah, but literally all other Bodhi I've grown has been great genes. With other breeders, I have had a higher rate of wackness.
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bythekasiz

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Cali.Grown>408 said:
I figured it would be some chronic..I heard multiple people say Goji Raz taste like Cherries and I need a cherry flavored hashplant for a cross I’m doing with Uk Cheese x Goji Raz Hashplant
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One of the testers I ran were cherry trance x 88g13hp. I’m not sure when/if those will be released. Definitely some tasty treats in there. I’m sure the goji raz will be great too!
 
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