bodhi seeds

MustangStudFarm

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Been collecting for awhile. I believe the Blue Tara I got on the initial drop. Been giving out Lucky Charms F2 with my seed projects made from an original pack. Still have these Blue Tara, Ancient OG, Cheech Wizard, and Cali Yo packs to F2 out of my rare ones I still possess. Trying to preserve as much as I can including some newly sold out stuff like Goji and SSDD. Slow process but I’ll get there!
I have 6 packs of SSDD and that's about it for old seed packs lol. I kept telling myself that Goji would be in stock later and I missed out. I'll be sure not to make that mistake again...
 

MustangStudFarm

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@GrowRijt The way you put words together makes an untrained ear think you know what your talking about but you’re trolling the wrong thread here lol

anywho, damn @MustangStudFarm! You were smart to score all those ssdd! I’m a jelly donut right now!! lol but I have a pack (only one sadness) of gogi og.
It's hard to buy seed packs and sit on them lol... I do plan on running the males when I do plant these. I feel like I need to help preserve this strain. I might even clone the males... First, I need to get a greenhouse on my property then I could turn my indoor garden into my project room.
 

hillbill

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It's hard to buy seed packs and sit on them lol... I do plan on running the males when I do plant these. I feel like I need to help preserve this strain. I might even clone the males... First, I need to get a greenhouse on my property then I could turn my indoor garden into my project room.
Seeds starting for next few weeks will be eligible to flower males as i put a couple outside for needed pollen.
 

colocowboy

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I’m hoping to find a nice male in the gogi, that’s one that I have been anxiously waiting on. I had a couple freebie packs of it also and the time I did try to run some was one of those freebie packs and none germinated. I have older seed next to them that germinate so it wasn’t storage, on my part anyhow.

How’s the taste of the Bing in your bang @hillbill?
 

jp68

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Currently sexing Bbho x Goji from respect genetics. Very high hopes for these as these were the first 2 bodhi packs bought and it seems like it should be a good cross. Always thought the bbhp needed a boost and i think the goji should give it that kick. Structurally these things should be tanks with frosty golf balls on a beefy frame . Dazzleberry pack was a bust as i lost a few then the 2 survivors were male but this respect cross should fill the goji void
 

SmokeAL0t

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Really wish the insults would find another home. Private messages, please?

HATEFULLY bashing one another in a thread based on peace and happiness.... ruining the vibe here.

Just came to share this:
Goji Blue Tara.jpg

Anyone who missed Blue Tara or Goji... now's your chance. This is also for a good cause; helping a lady in need who has deep history in the community.
 

hillbill

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I’m hoping to find a nice male in the gogi, that’s one that I have been anxiously waiting on. I had a couple freebie packs of it also and the time I did try to run some was one of those freebie packs and none germinated. I have older seed next to them that germinate so it wasn’t storage, on my part anyhow.

How’s the taste of the Bing in your bang @hillbill?
My wife says it’s almost psychedelic with trails and such, shit is strong, tastes like a jelly and butter sandwich. Multi Berry jelly. And add a sour hash backbeat.
 

colocowboy

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Man that sounds delish! @hillbill

sorry @SmokeAL0t, I let it go before but passive aggressive smudging from a troll can only be tolerated for so long. It’s like a splinter you have to remove it or it will fester. He’s bored, I get it, I resisted the urge to fill the space with science and bluster. If you know me, this was pretty good! :)
BTW, you know me..... I been jiving with you for nearly a decade! Anywho, I respect you and this thread way too much to keep it going.

Back to Bodhi, I was gifted a cut of granola funk. Pretty happy about that.
 

hillbill

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Have 2 Lazy Lightning I. Veg that have been pitiful and spindly, out of character for Bodhi, had up potted once and still lethargic so this organic grower snuck off and got a tablespoon of Peters 20-20-20 and here they went greening up and growing! That old tub of Peters is at least 12 yrs old.

Bless me father for I have sinned and used the dreaded salts!
 

GrowRijt

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All his research shows is that sexual expression can and is manipulated based off n environmental factors. This is not a permanent change.
This is the exact thing others are pointing to as false from what I have seen. So we agree. In the case of the roadside hemp study. The continued presence of carbon monoxide influenced continued and repeatable populations leaning 60% female.

It’s interesting how chromosomal theory is dead, yet it still holds up in all practical applications with near perfect accuracy.
You forgot to mention the third option on your tests. Undetermined. You obviously didn’t get one, but the plant sex tests have three possible outcomes. Not just M/F. Why would there be an undetermined outcome do you suppose?
 

AdvancedBuffalo

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This is the exact thing others are pointing to as false from what I have seen. So we agree. In the case of the roadside hemp study. The continued presence of carbon monoxide influenced continued and repeatable populations leaning 60% female.


You forgot to mention the third option on your tests. Undetermined. You obviously didn’t get one, but the plant sex tests have three possible outcomes. Not just M/F. Why would there be an undetermined outcome do you suppose?
Plants can absolutely alter the way they show sex. But this is typically reversed when the plants are removed from stressful situations. Sexual variability due to expression from stress does not explain a pack of seeds germinating as all males. It’s either bad luck or bad breeding practices. Or both.

With the sex tests, that .01% sample size is due to false negatives or positives when detecting the line of genetic code linked to biological sex.

I’m saying this in a very friendly, discussion oriented way by the way. I hope nobody takes this discussion as something negative. Stuff like this is needed to move the community forward. If we all nodded and agreed with everyone around us, we wouldn’t move forward!

There is clearly more to the plant, and lots that we do not understand. I’m speaking purely on a pack of seeds being germed all male. The chance of that being due to stress is non-zero. It’s most likely due to total random chance, or messed up genetics due to poly poly poly hybridization and epigenetic triggers from indoor grows. There is a reason that crosses close to wild ancestors are healthier than their inbred counterparts!
 

SmokeAL0t

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@colocowboy I just think everyone gets caught up in today's online etiquette (of ALL social media) and forgets to use the forums as a place of love and gathering. Forums used to be a place we all gathered because it was illegal to grow everywhere. We all acted like a family. Perhaps I'm a fool for trying to encourage that mentality be continued (not being sarcastic).

I've ran a minimum of 3-5 rooms of 100+ beans for years and years now, not counting other smaller spaces. One room has thrown 65-75% males three runs in a row and none of the other rooms have. It does have less fresh air circulation and higher temperature swings than the other rooms. Previously, it was only used for flowering and only the last 3 runs was it used for veg.

The morning this theory was posted on IG, I called Useful and told him my observations and felt like the timing was impeccable and I wanted to share my experience but the hate is fierce (here and IG, I'm truly not picking on any one crowd).

To be clear, I'm not taking either side of the debate; I simply make observations. I think a person needs to run large populations (500 - 5000, depending) to form proper opinions... I also think numerous controlled tests need to conclusively agree with one another and nothing of the sort exists... nevertheless, I can't change what I've seen first-hand. It's a head scratcher for me.

Furthermore... I've seen a line that I believe threw an incredible amount of males... unless I witnessed the worst luck in history. ... so I believe genetics can carry higher percentages of males (or females), too. A few years ago, I found a killer female in a pack of 16 beans. The initial pack had 12 males and only 4 females (ran in a proper environment). Ran two more generations of those beans, one run of 100 and one run of 60, and had 74 males and 45 males. The run of 60 was half of a room in which other strains had a ~50/50 female ratio.

Again - I'm just making observations and don't pretend to know anything more than anyone else. It's just mind-boggling to me. I can't count the runs from my full-time gardening over the past 15-16 years and only the above mentioned puzzles me....

I don't know the history of anyone's beef with one another but it's turning to the point there's more non-Bodhi related content in this thread than Bodhi related which is the reason I keep begging everyone to be kind, respectful, and civil. It's common courtesy. Maybe I'm too koombayah about all of this but I do believe we owe it to one another to bring out each others' better selves. If we disagree, we can do it cordially/respectfully. If none of us have hands-on experience (that correlates with a certain debate), why take an aggressive stance on it... ? Hope this makes sense.

... and you're 100% correct, you're one of the guys on RIU I've grown to love and respect (even though we haven't formally met). .... which begs to argue my point - even if someone's treating you like a moron (in your eyes; not here taking sides), I'd expect you to kill 'em with kindness. I guess I'm a fool for feeling this way but I believe us older heads should set a standard so everyone feels welcome to participate.

I'm happy to bow out of this conversation now but wish you nothing but the most respect and sure wasn't calling any certain person out. Feel free to hit me up in PM, if you'd like to further this.

=]

I'm just trying to keep our thread open (and that's to everyone reading). :bigjoint: Big love and no offense intended... really. Sorry for the wall of text.
 
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