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joeypotseed

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I was wondering something and this question if for those of you that run hit soils like Fox farm ocean forest and roots organic.. How high do you go with the ppm's in your water when you feed imduring flower? Just curious.. Thanks
 

akhiymjames

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I was wondering something and this question if for those of you that run hit soils like Fox farm ocean forest and roots organic.. How high do you go with the ppm's in your water when you feed imduring flower? Just curious.. Thanks
I don't use any bottled nutes when I use those soils as I make supersoil with them and any nutes added will completely fry the plants. But when I'm running synthetics in my hydro setup I go in the same range as genuity depending on what I'm running. Those are some hot soils with food in them already so be careful when bottle feeding when using those. Its ok to really up the feeding once you see the plants have used up most of the food in the soil but if its fresh be careful feeding it.
 

akhiymjames

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I used to use FFOF. I didn't use nutrients of any kind for a good 6+ weeks. After that, I'd keep it around 600-800 ppm. Less is more IMO when it comes to nutrients... at least for me in soil.
Most def with soil cus it holds the nutes. When I do my all perlite hydro grows I push pretty hard but only with plants that can take it. But like you said FFOF is pretty hot and can feed very well for 4-6 weeks depending on pheno. I tell people all the time that are newbs and want to grow soil get you some of that and do straight plain water to get a feel for growing and stuff. you can grow some nice stuff with it long as you get a transplant in before flower
 

st0wandgrow

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Most def with soil cus it holds the nutes. When I do my all perlite hydro grows I push pretty hard but only with plants that can take it. But like you said FFOF is pretty hot and can feed very well for 4-6 weeks depending on pheno. I tell people all the time that are newbs and want to grow soil get you some of that and do straight plain water to get a feel for growing and stuff. you can grow some nice stuff with it long as you get a transplant in before flower
Yep, for sure. I used to use FFOF all the time before I started messing with making my own organic soil. A shop close by me sells it for $10.99 a bag, so it's tough to beat for quality/price.
 

joeypotseed

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I've been using roots organic and saving the soil for around 2 years. This past spring I started amending my old soil with biochar worm castings perlite azomite crab shell green sand alfafa meal kelp guano brown rock sea bird guano and sea 90, however I feel like some plants fade earlier than they should even if they have plenty of room for roots as I use 5 gallon air pots.

I feed with roots organics p and k stuff along with molasses and liquid kelp sometimes. I feel like I need to do more tea, but to me it's time consuming doing teas every week.

I use boogie brew's tea ingredients when I do teas and that stuff foams at the top like nothing that I've ever seen!

I am just trying to get dialed in in the last area that I can think of. I see plants like this and I am wondering what are they doing lolScreenshot_2015-11-05-11-33-26.png
 

akhiymjames

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Yep, for sure. I used to use FFOF all the time before I started messing with making my own organic soil. A shop close by me sells it for $10.99 a bag, so it's tough to beat for quality/price.
Damn man I wish I could get it for that price only two shops in my city sells it one $23 and the other $20 smdh I could make some great batches of soil with that for that price I use Roots cus its similar and the cheapest $16.

I've been using roots organic and saving the soil for around 2 years. This past spring I started amending my old soil with biochar worm castings perlite azomite crab shell green sand alfafa meal kelp guano brown rock sea bird guano and sea 90, however I feel like some plants fade earlier than they should even if they have plenty of room for roots as I use 5 gallon air pots.

I feed with roots organics p and k stuff along with molasses and liquid kelp sometimes. I feel like I need to do more tea, but to me it's time consuming doing teas every week.

I use boogie brew's tea ingredients when I do teas and that stuff foams at the top like nothing that I've ever seen!

I am just trying to get dialed in in the last area that I can think of. I see plants like this and I am wondering what are they doing lolView attachment 3536605
Sounds like you need to amend your soil with a higher nitrogen amendment. I use the blood meal 12-0-0 and the bone meal I use has some more in it. That should give you more N so they wont fade so fast. Some phenos and plants eat a lot especially if you have good rhizosphere of bennies and microbes in the soil supplying them. I make a supersoil for flower and use fresh out the bag and old recycled soil re-amended for veg. Teas are great too and I use them to so your good bro just have to find the right balance of mixing soil.
 

st0wandgrow

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Damn man I wish I could get it for that price only two shops in my city sells it one $23 and the other $20 smdh I could make some great batches of soil with that for that price I use Roots cus its similar and the cheapest $16.



Sounds like you need to amend your soil with a higher nitrogen amendment. I use the blood meal 12-0-0 and the bone meal I use has some more in it. That should give you more N so they wont fade so fast. Some phenos and plants eat a lot especially if you have good rhizosphere of bennies and microbes in the soil supplying them. I make a supersoil for flower and use fresh out the bag and old recycled soil re-amended for veg. Teas are great too and I use them to so your good bro just have to find the right balance of mixing soil.
Yeah blood meal is probably the most soluble ingredient for a soil, so it's a good quick-fix. Personally I can't stand the smell of it though, so I don't use it.

I'm finding that if I feed my worms the same shit that I use in my soil, I have a plant-available source of nutrients at hand. Just a lil worm casting top dress and whatever the plants are lacking they get straightened right out.
 

futant

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I'm running an Ace Malawi in almost pure Pro-mix organic (no ammendments), drench feeding Nectar for the Gods professional regimen every other water has food so far ppm is around 1140 at this point (day 28 of what could be 120 in 12/12). The tips of this landrace sativa aren't even burnt. Maybe it is the nitrate salt free nutes I dunno more observation is needed.
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akhiymjames

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I'm running an Ace Malawi in almost pure Pro-mix organic (no ammendments), drench feeding Nectar for the Gods professional regimen every other water has food so far ppm is around 1140 at this point (day 28 of what could be 120 in 12/12). The tips of this landrace sativa aren't even burnt. Maybe it is the nitrate salt free nutes I dunno more observation is needed.
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NFTG is semi organic bottled nutes not like synthetic nutes very good stuff use it myself sometime but that's a very happy sativa lady you have there and some sativas require a lot to keep happy. You can give them a ton and they still look like they're lacking but it just depends on what your growing. Keep that lady happy like you have her and she will reward you :)
 

futant

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NFTG is semi organic bottled nutes not like synthetic nutes very good stuff use it myself sometime but that's a very happy sativa lady you have there and some sativas require a lot to keep happy. You can give them a ton and they still look like they're lacking but it just depends on what your growing. Keep that lady happy like you have her and she will reward you :)
Pro-mix organic is the actual brand of medium sold at down to earth, wasn't trying to imply that myself or NFtG was entirely organic.
 

akhiymjames

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Pro-mix organic is the actual brand of medium sold at down to earth, wasn't trying to imply that myself or NFtG was entirely organic.
No I know you wasn't bro I was just stating some facts those are great nutes your using and how some ladies especially sativas are hard to kee hapy and your killing it. Hell I don't trip on how anyone grow synthetic, organic whatever long as its dank I could care less long as its no pesticides and stuff but I don't harp on anyone about how they grow
 
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