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luv2grow

luv2grow

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futant said:
the Buddha's Hand Scrapmapple used to grow and sell to dispensaries here in town had a sterong EARTH componenant tacked on to the lemon flavor. Not the lemon candy people would expect.
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That's great info! I was thinking about it as a freebie. Just not sure how it'll fit into my space. Oh non problems and their problems haha
 
futant

futant

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DoctorFrost said:
I would have to agree with Amos on this one, but don't claim to be right. I could be dead wrong when it comes to fem seeds, as I have no personal experience on breeding and just going off the countless hours of reading I have done. But from what I can tell there is absolutely no more herm risk involved with fem seeds then regular seeds. It is just one of those internet rumors that gets started and the die hard fans of regular seeds will always keep saying it for decades to come. I think one reason Fem seeds have that reputation is because a lot of the seeds in the beginning were probably made with plants that hermied or plants that were made to herm instead of using. Those same plants that you talk of Herming from certain breeders wouldn't be any different if they were to use males from that same genetic line. That is a breeders responsibility to make sure a line is stable before selling it, and if it is not then to at least be honest about it when listing it for sale.

And as Amos said, I wasn't saying everyone should switch to fems and start breeding with them. Just that I am surprised more people don't do so for their own personal use. And that more Fem breeders don't start picking up the better genetics instead of the old lines they all seem to use like watered down Critical, White Widow, Skunk, etc etc. But with that said, I am not convinced that it would hurt anything by breeding with fems and only using fems with no males. But I don't know enough to say for sure one way or the other on that issue. But what I do know is, is that it is probably very pointless for me to even try and argue my point because you are very clearly biased towards any fem seeds just the way you talk. I could be very wrong, but at least I am open minded enough to accept that and want to learn what the truth is. I just think it is crazy to think that if I were to Fem some Gojis that it would instantly turn them into garbage.
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I respectfully disagree on some points I will use one example but have enough personal anectdotal evidence at this point for myself to believe coincidence is not a statistically possible reason for sexual instability.
Elemental Seeds Honey Bananas (FEm seed) was super stable when I grew it. It even resisted a light event and stayed sexually stable. I chucked LVPK BX pollen on it. This stud I had used on other female plants and breeding with 100% sexual stability in progeny (I even had one F1 off of LVPK BX I switched from 12/12 light during days, to 12/12 light at night abruptly without a single nanner popping up.) The F1 off of Honey bananas Hermed in absolutely ideal flowering conditions. That was it, it had happened enough in generations after the second, for me at that point that I threw away everything I ever made that had fems in it and chucked every cut I had gotten that I discovered could have only been grown from a fem seed. The instability takes a few generations to show up. Since I practice things like "nicking" and "FFI" in my breeding program using Fems is out of the question.

Also agreed that Fem beans serve a purpose and should be allowed. The issue isn't the guys making them the ethics problem is the hobbyist who breeds with fem beans and then passes the results out without full disclosure. That is what has to stop. If the grower has ethics it won't matter that a breeder may not.
 
futant

futant

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DoctorFrost said:
I don't know, but I'd have to say probably a mix of a few. It is an indoor sativa that produces very high thc content plants and enhances the terpene profile of many strains but usually adds some chem funk to the mix if you are into that, it is also a very heavy yielder and produces some hefty hybrids. I know some people have claimed that the Appy was better at flavored plants then the SL was. Meaning the Blood Orange with Cali O x Appy you'd be a lot more likely to find a super orange plant then with Snow Lotus x Cali O. But at the same time I think Appy is more dominant meaning maybe only 1-2 of those plants out of the pack will have that super orange flavor, where as more of the SL ones will have it except maybe not as strong. I could be wrong on that but am pretty sure I have heard a few people say stuff to that regard.

Anyone else excited for B to use the Dragons Blood to cross to something else other then Hashplant? Like lets say Dragons Blood x Chem 91va, or x Goji. For some reason I have never been too crazy about the G13HP dad but I am not really sure why. I have never grown any of them out yet but just in my mind it is the least favorite male of them all to me. I think because I like sativa dominant plants the best that grow huge and stretch a lot as opposed to those that stay short and bushy . Also prefer the Sativa type high and usually seems the best flavors come from Sativa doms. I am sure once I grow some out I will change my mind but it may be awhile since I have so many Appy crosses I want to pop first. The only G13hp I may pop before long is the Blueberry Hashplant since everyone loves it. But since I just popped some Dream Lotus I am not sure I should, but would be cool to compare the two. I think the only G13HP crosses I have are that, and Clusterfunk, and Good Medicine x G13hp freebies.

A quick note back to the Dragons Blood - I believe it is an OG type plant from Hawaii. I know he has a 1996 Pipeline Hawaiian HP that he says is very mold resistant and looks to be in the same category/family as OG Kush. And in his description of the Dragons Blood HP he said the Dragons Blood came from a specimen of 96 Pipeline HP. So I am just going out on a limb here and saying that the Dragons Blood plant is probably very similar to a lot of OG Kush strains since it is just a pheno of the 96 Pipeline HP. So for the Chem/OG lovers like myself this plant crossed to some Chems/OGs would be a cool combination.
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threw this bleeding dbhp male onto my wifi #1 clone last night :)
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futant

futant

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akhiymjames said:
Man if I didn't have SSDD beans I would be all over the testers but not shooting for any this round. Plus still have a couple to finish since the ones I had going got lost with everything else. Told B man wassup wasn't even angry. Just told me hope everything is better and clean and when they get finished send in report.

He said the ATF x Apollo11g would prolly be freebies
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Bman is an adult. He realizes life happens. I just wish ALL the tester packs that have never been reported on were caused by life issues instead of flake issues.
 
D_Urbmon

D_Urbmon

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akhiymjames said:
Man if I didn't have SSDD beans I would be all over the testers but not shooting for any this round. Plus still have a couple to finish since the ones I had going got lost with everything else. Told B man wassup wasn't even angry. Just told me hope everything is better and clean and when they get finished send in report.

He said the ATF x Apollo11g would prolly be freebies
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Man I would love to do the SSDD testers too but I'm 5 days past my germination deadline on my dbf3 testers. I'm a scumbag.

mucha_mota said:
my pack is in the mail. ssdd. stoked too.

if my tax return shows. and if this new good thing happens...

imma hit up GLG for 4 packs ...all appy... like zmuda.

lovedawg
ssdd
cobra lips
prayer tower
milk line
mountain line

id like to grab another ssdd, cobra lips, 2 @ lovedawg

take any freebie.
long as the label is gold & sealed by b-man ;-)
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don't go buying them all now. save some for meeeeeee!
 
D_Urbmon

D_Urbmon

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Al Yamoni said:
@thebonzaseedbank , is terrible. Three days after I tell them to cancel my order and keep the knock offs, they say that they're sorry they aleady shipped it.. @Amos Otis , let me know when you get yours, I want to see them in action... probably wont germ if they're real or not... I have made 3 orders from these clowns and the only thing to germ out of 4 strains was some lemon og and there certainly wasn't any og anywhere in the genes at all! What a bunch of scammin' ass lames!
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akhiymjames said:
That's a god damn shame. They really getting over on folks man I don't like it one bit. People work hard for they bread however it comes and to know there are banks out here preying on people with rare genetics they supposedly have is insane. Sorry they conned you and Amos but I would like to see them explain this. I mean I don't get how you can say you have x amount and many people are able to purchase that same amount on different occasions. I'm glad I never spent money with them they almost got me last year on a few things.
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They surely won't be ever getting any of my business and don't worry I have spread the info to all of my grower friends across the web. NO BUENO. Stick to the trusted banks and community members!
 
D_Urbmon

D_Urbmon

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futant said:
I respectfully disagree on some points I will use one example but have enough personal anectdotal evidence at this point for myself to believe coincidence is not a statistically possible reason for sexual instability.
Elemental Seeds Honey Bananas (FEm seed) was super stable when I grew it. It even resisted a light event and stayed sexually stable. I chucked LVPK BX pollen on it. This stud I had used on other female plants and breeding with 100% sexual stability in progeny (I even had one F1 off of LVPK BX I switched from 12/12 light during days, to 12/12 light at night abruptly without a single nanner popping up.) The F1 off of Honey bananas Hermed in absolutely ideal flowering conditions. That was it, it had happened enough in generations after the second, for me at that point that I threw away everything I ever made that had fems in it and chucked every cut I had gotten that I discovered could have only been grown from a fem seed. The instability takes a few generations to show up. Since I practice things like "nicking" and "FFI" in my breeding program using Fems is out of the question.

Also agreed that Fem beans serve a purpose and should be allowed. The issue isn't the guys making them the ethics problem is the hobbyist who breeds with fem beans and then passes the results out without full disclosure. That is what has to stop. If the grower has ethics it won't matter that a breeder may not.
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Well said futant. That was always my biggest concern. Also one aspect which you forgot to mention is that the unstable genetics can also slip out into the world through bagseeds without the grower even knowing and having chance to pass the results out without full disclosure.

p.s. What is nicking and FFI? I'd be curious to know any breeding tips or tricks for future endeavors.
 
Amos Otis

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akhiymjames said:
Sorry they conned you and Amos but I would like to see them explain this./QUOTE]
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Me, too. Despite all the evidence, I still hold [somewhat] to the notion that it makes zero sense to run a scam and risk forever losing your business for the sake of $50, which is what I spent after adding the 3 Lotus Larrys. @Al Yamoni: I don't recall that you said you ordered more than the 2 dubious LCs - if not, then they 'conned' you for $20. How much sense does this make? Would this then mean that the Larrys, and all Bodhi $9.00 singles are fakes?

Wouldn't it make more sense to send out $2,50 Lemon Kush beans for $20 DNA Lemon OG, for instance? [Or.......maybe they do ? :shock: ]

So, yeah....it's been a couple of days since whatever-her-name-is said she would get the 'appropriate' to come to RIU and address the charges. Me thinks she needs a reminder. :-D

EDIT - I'll just copy this post, and forward it along, with 'warmest wishes' to 'ol what's-her-name'.
 
DoctorFrost

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Amos, and Al, if they told Amos that they made a mistake and only really had 2 beans to start with. But then told Al, sorry we can't cancel your order it has already been shipped. Isn't that catching them in a lie because that proves they supposedly had 4 since they shipped 2 to each. If they weren't going to ship those 2 beans to Al because they were out of stock they should have to send him a e-mail notice stating that before shipping I would think. So if I were you Amos I would ask them how this is possible. I can tell you I will NEVER order from them. People trying to further their business by practices like this ought to go back to business school and learn in the end bad customer service and screwing people over will run your company in the ground you idiots.

And about the Fem beans, you may very well be right I really don't know. Just going off what I have read and what made sense to me. But I wouldn't write them off just because of one bad experience. If it happened a few different times from different genetics is when I would write them off. I know I have read quite a bit in the past on others making their own Fem beans and never having issues with herms after countless crosses. Maybe you just got really unlucky. I know I have grown out probably over 100 Fem seeds over the years and I have never once had a hermie. That is from a lot of different breeders on Attitude over the years. There was also many times I put those plants through hell, especially in the summer with sometimes temperatures staying above 110 for hours. I only ever had plants throw nanners twice. Once was a Blue Kush from Dinafem that was in that 110 room - it didn't hermie and turned out just fine. Ended up with about 12 seeds out of it though. The other was the CSI Humboldt Purple Dogbud (Urkle x Chem91) that my buddy finished which through late nanners when it was taken about 3 weeks later then it should have been. They were sterile though, and none of the other 5 Purple Dogbuds had any. Maybe I have just gotten lucky, I don't know. But people finding herms all the time have to be dealing with bad genetics to start with or bad breeders/both I'd say. I guess a year or so from now I will be able to comment a little further on this with my own personal testing with Femming some Goji, Dream Lotus, Mothers Milk etc for myself and growing a few out. And will for sure be doing the C99 x Dream Lotus cross for myself that I think will be killer.

One last thing - Anyone have any tips for posting pics securely? I am guessing it would be smart to get an old school digital camera instead of using your phone or anything like that. Which can be had fairly cheap anymore. But what about after that, does even a digital camera leave stuff on the image that needs to be deleted? And where should it be uploaded to etc. I would like to start sharing witth you guys since you all share so much. Thanks
 
D_Urbmon

D_Urbmon

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Sadly this won't even close to destroy their business. Only among this small group people will not order. There are thousands of unsuspecting newbs and hobby growers out there who will never know the difference. These are the kind of people the scammers and counterfeit seed selling seedbanks prey upon.]

The kind of person who knows no difference between the probably 15 different White Widow's offered there and the real deal Black Widow from Mr. Nice.
 
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