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apbx720

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kmog33 said:
Tons more light than a personal grow.

When you put 20 lights in a 15' tall sealed room your are putting light out more like the sun. You're not even thinking about 4x4 or 5x5 footprints and how close you can get the lights. Overlap and just tons of light, there are so many factors other than light that attribute to our plants. You'll notice a lot of the more experienced growers have their lights much higher in their small/personal areas than the newer guys. (Not all some guys are still super focused on getting the lights as close as possible, it's just not the way to go about yielding more or better IMO. Get your environment right. Light is absorbed, so as long as your environment is sealed, the plants are getting that light at somepoint.


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Ahh cross lighting. I suspected maybe this was the reason. Guess that explains why i cant put my 600w hps's any closer than 18" w/o bleaching. Im running a few more than a couple;);-)

But lumens fade quickly w distance tho right? Its hard to wrap my brain around how it wouldnt be more efficient to use less light and closer to the canopy? Just seems to me that its a waste, but i know im prolly not understanding it right.

Anyhow, thx for the info bro!!
 
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apbx720 said:
Ahh cross lighting. I suspected maybe this was the reason. Guess that explains why i cant put my 600w hps's any closer than 18" w/o bleaching. Im running a few more than a couple;);-)

But lumens fade quickly w distance tho right? Its hard to wrap my brain around how it wouldnt be more efficient to use less light and closer to the canopy? Just seems to me that its a waste, but i know im prolly not understanding it right.

Anyhow, thx for the info bro!!
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Lumens are irrelevant more or less here. In a big closed environment a lot of it is shear photon output. Light doesn't disappear per se at any point. It's is either absorbed or converted to heat. The light bounces around in the room until one of these two things happens.

As a side note, this is in a sealed environment. If you have holes or leaks, some of the light will be lost out those holes. Whether directly or by reflecting out.


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This is a massive/gross simplification of the science behind light in your grow room, but I'm stoned and don't have the energy to get way into it. There's a thread on here regarding professional facilities and their lighting from very recently. You can search for it, there's a lot of good info there.

Or you can look for discussions/arguments in the LED section regarding light placement/distance. This comes up kind of a lot. :)


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apbx720

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kmog33 said:
Is it just the males?na the females are forced flowering indoors a couple weeks since the flip. I dnt think theyre auto flowering. Plus the mom is a landrace, i think. Sativa at that.

Ive been doing some reading and i believe i caused flowering for improper acclimation. I never weined em down on light hours, i just put em outside in 14 hours of light from 18 inside. Does this sound like it could be the cause?


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ForRealz said:
Hey brother! You always got great pics!!!

I'll let the Professionals field your question...but don't those Jungle Spice have the SAME 88G13/HP dad as Angelica???!!!

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thx homes! Ya same pappy, but unfortunately i havent had the pleasure of running Angelica yet
 
kmog33

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apbx720 said:
thx homes! Ya same pappy, but unfortunately i havent had the pleasure of running Angelica yet
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Yeah they definitely could see a drop in light as the time to change, I've also had plants flower under 14 hours of light. It'd be odd with a sativa landrace under normal circumstances but maybe the 18-14 swap could've signaled flower. If they were ready to go when you put them outside with the dramatic decreas in light that also could've attributed. I think you've got the right idea as to what happened. I tend to like starting outside plants outside. I had issues with acclimation as well a few years back similar to what you are experiencing and swapped to all outside for summer. :).


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kmog33 said:
Is it just the males?


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My reply never showed up on my last post :/

But ya the females are being forced flowered indoors so ya its just the males outside

But i was doin some research and i think i caused the males to flower by improper acclimation. I put them out into 14 or so hours of light outside from 18 hrs inside, without weining them off the 18 hrs of indoor light. Does this seem like a likely cause ?

Edit: shit i guess it did show up lol disreguard
 
kmog33

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apbx720 said:
My reply never showed up on my last post :/

But ya the females are being forced flowered indoors so ya its just the males outside

But i was doin some research and i think i caused the males to flower by improper acclimation. I put them out into 14 or so hours of light outside from 18 hrs inside, without weining them off the 18 hrs of indoor light. Does this seem like a likely cause ?
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Yeah they definitely could see a drop in light as the time to change, I've also had plants flower under 14 hours of light. It'd be odd with a sativa landrace under normal circumstances but maybe the 18-14 swap could've signaled flower. If they were ready to go when you put them outside am with the decreased light that also could've attributed. I think you've got the right idea as to what happened. I tend to like starting outside plants outside. I had issues with acclimation as well a few years back similar to what you are experiencing and swapped to all outside for summer. :).


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I got you. :)


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kmog33 said:
Lumens are irrelevant more or less here. In a big closed environment a lot of it is shear photon output. Light doesn't disappear per se at any point. It's is either absorbed or converted to heat. The light bounces around in the room until one of these two things happens.

As a side note, this is in a sealed environment. If you have holes or leaks, some of the light will be lost out those holes. Whether directly or by reflecting out.


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Makes sense! Thx for the schooling bro!
 
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More cowbell- og pine funk molasses on the nose and pallette. The burnt rubber gave way to a sweet molasses like taste during cure! Yay!! Bag appeal for days bro! My lil sis asked me why is it "white"? haha! I replied: because its fire. Lol20160610_204722.jpgexcuse me guys, while i go make this nausea my bitch...
 
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