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wonderblunder

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I'm cleaning out the attic so I can make space for a veg space. Get some clones going while my big one finishes.

You know what's funny, my little 4 gram soil SG plant smoked better than the giant hydro one did. I sure wish I could have done better with her. At least you know to grow SG more like your buddy says.

Looking forward to see how the hash making works out. I want some bags too, but every extra dollar I get I want to spend on the grow space.
I hear ya about wanting to spend lots on the grow space. Me, I have spent lots of money on the growspace and have decided I like nice "processing" toys too. I have a corner devoted to processing(could be called a harvest party pack) which includes drying racks, variety of scissors, plastic containers for trim, pyrex pieces, brown paper bags, double boiler, lots of butane, many jars, garden wire, and much more. Bags are something I want to add, but i definitely want to try the gumby method, and make a cool system to do it in. By the way I love breaking out these boxes, as it is always a good time of the year......
Looking forward to hash project boomer.
 

BooMeR242

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This documentation is designed as a tutorial for the method i used from researching hash making. Thanks to Genfranco for gettin me started off and in the right direction. Between his thread and a couple videos on youtube and my cultivation books/videos ive combined a few methods to make it work for me. This is my first run through ever and hope that my successes and failures help others.

Theres many diff hash methods out there and i decided to go with a 5 5gallon hash bag setup from canada i ordered on ebay. They do not come with instructions for obvious legal reasons. I, myself am a southern california medicial marijuana patient and concentrates such as hash are legal for me to possess.
There is also a few diff hash methods regarding what to do once the extract is complete. I am a vendor with my local collectives and they did not have a specific requirement to the form the hash arrives in for donation so i will hand squeeze and roll out the hash once extracted. i will break it down for storage afterwards.

I have gone to great lengths to keep photo record and notes while making the bubble hash and hope the details help u with a successful extract or finding a method that works for you. Also i do welcome constructive criticism, compliments, rep, and other posts about different methods is fine for discussion but i do not want this thread to be trashed or info diverted away from those wanting to learn Bubble Hash making. not butane alcohol hand rub etc.


While reviewing my research i was realizing i have a lot of fine quality trim left over after trimming close to 7pounds of white widow from my outdoor grow. I have just about 5 full 1 gallon ziplock bags full of premo trim. Thats a shitload of mixing involved so i dreamed up a design that would make a lid to prevent splashing and at the saem time support a mounted drill with the paint mixer attachment. This way i dont have to sit for 15 mins at a time holding and spinning around the trim in the bucket for hours.

Basically u can look closely at the pix below and see the details and hardware used.
"L" brackets to support the drill on each side with a bolt and nut thru the holes on the "L" brackets to tighten and loosen the grip of the drill for removal and support. A hole was drilled thru the wooden lid for the 5 gallon paint mixer attachment (can be found at Lowes or Home depot easy) and u hook the drill up to it and mount it. We also drilled holes and mounted bolts on the perimeter of the bucket for side support to avoid sliding or tipping from the wooden lid. I had sum extra neon orange spray paint laying around so why not ya know? But anyways i will post the pix and label them as we go along the process i used.


Here is the bags of trim and shake to start with. (No stem branches) I put it in the freezer for 24hours to freeze up the trichomes (resin glands that contain the THC) this method allows the trichomes (which are shaped like a mushroom) to break off at the base of the leaf instead of just the head breaking off. This allows more resin obviously.
Doesnt hurt to keep ur fridge stocked as well.








get ur supplies ready for about two hours of bubble hash makin!







good location to keep ur stash. and protection 8)




(5) 5 gallon Bubble Hash bags ordered from Canada




I picked up (4) 20lb bags of ice from the store but one bag should be enough for two runs of the same 7oz trim.
You want to use cold water when u pour water in. (use R.O. water {reverse osmosis} if available)




I used a power drill with a paint mixer attachment for a 5 gallon paint bucket.




Heres the close ups of the wooden lid with hardware for drill motor support.











this setup allows the drill to be up higher for mid bucket mix



and this pic shows how i can lower the drill to get lower



Insert the bags IN ORDER. they should be labeled on the sides. Start with the smallest silk screen and end with the "work bag" which will contain the bulk of the trim and no hash resin.



From what i read up on i learned using 7 ounces of trim per 5 gallon bucket is a solid amount. Too much trim wont allow for an even mix and resin wont seperate thru a thick layer of floating trim.
I weighed out ounce by ounce with my scale and before i dump the trim in i fill the bucket with cold water half way up, pour a layer of ice, then dump the 7oz trim on it. I then add more ice and sum water til it reaches about 3-6 inches from the top rim of the bucket.





Then I mix around the trim with a spoon or ur clean hand to ensure all the trim is nice and wet/moist





I pick up my lid with drill and mixer already attached and set it on top the bucket for a perfect fit.



Then i tighten the side support bolt to lock in the drill motor before i turn it on.



My drill motor has a switch on it that allows it to run without u holding the trigger but the speed is too fast of a spin. u want to agitate the slush sumwat slowly and not wreck ur delicate silk screens.
I used the twist ties from training plants to find a good speed with the drill motor and tie the trigger in place so the rite speed is obtained and held for the 15 minute intervals.
Im sure u could use zip ties or rope etc as well but its wat i had lying around.



Then u let the drill spin away and set a timer or watch the clock. Let the mix agitate for 15 mins. Then smoke a bowl and relax. Come back and turn off the drill (i unplugged it so i wouldnt have to retie the drill trigger over and over) and remove the lid.
Remove the trim stuck to the paint mixer and put it bak in the bucket. Move all the trim to the middle of the bucket to allow resin glands to settle down at the bottom and stay away from the egde of the bags. U can use a spray bottle of clean water to spray the bubbles to pop them and avoid the bubbles carrying trichs to the egde of the bags and getting stuck instead of down below on the screens.





Let the mixture sit for 15 mintues then mix for another 15 mins. then after that mix let it sit again for 15 mins then come back and remove the first bag the "workbag" and let it drain out into the bucket. You will have to apply sum pressure to speed things up. What i learned too was the water is ice cold and will freeze up ur hand pretty good so having sumone to trade off with helps. We also found a method that seems to help slosh the water around and strain thru the screens better The only way i can relaly explain it is someone holds the bag up at the top and the other person holds with one hand the side of the bag like a pinch and shake it bag and forth kind of violently. Im not sure why it works but seems to make the water splash up the inside of the bag and gets thru parts f the screen that are not clogged with as much sediment. Hope this helps. Id suggest experimenting as well.







Once the water is gone should have relatively dry trim at the bottom of the workbag and hang it up to dry.



Once the workbag is removed ull see a green tint to the water which is great cuz its all resin glands waiting to be scooped up 8)



Then the fun part begins when u get to sift for gold. well green gold thta is...
Remove the next bag and it will take some time for the water to drip thru and sift the bag back and forth dripping the run off into the bucket and realize this takes time so be patient.





Once the water is gone thru the bag i used a spray bottle to spray the inside of the bag (keep the bag over the bucket for more runoff) and spray all the fine resin glands that are spread out thru the entire screen, spray it towards the middle for easier collection. I used a paper plate and scooped up the silk screen from the bottom and push it thru the top so the bag is inside out but dont let the walls touch the resin glands. I take it to my work table and the gf goes to work on it. she uses a spoon to scoop the resin chunks and piles up and puts it on a plate for drying. (DONT USE A PAPER PLATE LIKE I DID IN THIS ROUND- It will stick and paper could possible stick to the bottom of ur hash block. Use a wax plate or sumthing else for drying) Id label each plate seperate to keep organized and the diff concetrates seperate. We decided to just use the spoon to smash and roll out into a small square. This also helps remove any excess water that is left in the resin.












Some people like to roll hash into balls or make bricks. Sum put it in the oven and wrap it with newspaper or plastic. I mite experiment with these methods next round.

But this round we smash out the hash into a square and put them on the plates then throw them in the freezer for the next couplehours while we have a smoke break, grab sum In N Out and get ready for run thru 2!

Basically you can take the same pile of trim used in round one and refreeze it for later runthrus or do it bak to bak. we decided to knock out this round and do it bak to bak. The same steps are repeated. add water, ice, trim, ice, mix, sit, mix, sit, remove bags and scoop hash. :weed:



Once done with the first run we had four seperate concentrates of hash and theyre neatly labeled. I will pull it out of the freezer and wipe off the excess frost which is most of the remaining water inside the flattened hash. since water expands when it freezes it helps extract the water. I will let it air dry in a dark secure place for the next day or two. I will sample it each day to see if theres a smoke difference or taste etc.

Here is the end result. First try ever, Very simple anyone can do it.









then after we finished run thru 2 of the same 7oz trim. we compare and im stoked i did a second run thru. def worth the time and i may do a third in a couple days after we rest. But look at this pic below and see theres not much a difference from the first run thru. theyre the same thickness as well.



then heres a comparison once bth runs are complete. the top row is the second run and the bottom row is the first run thru. great color and texture. shines like crystals in the light. smells bomb and i cant waste for the smoke report.




So we used 7 ounces of premo trim and the result from two runs of bubble hash using the same trim resulted in these weight break downs;

20 micron = 2.12 grams

75 micron = 4.47 grams

120 micron = 3.6 grams

150 micron = 29.84 grams

TOTAL BUBBLE HASH PRODUCED= 40 GRAMS!

Not too bad for a first try and using trim that couldve just been tossed in the trash. Id def say it was worth all the effort and now i have a system that will work and save me time for all my next runs.


Ive been workin and smoking for almost 8hours today on this event. between thought, planning, and construction, it was well worth thinking ahead to save myself sum tiem and effort with the drill support and setup. Im not sure if ive left any specific details out but if i do ill correct myself and any advice please feel free to add u guys. Positive that is.

Ive been on RUI for a while now and wouldnt be where i am growin today if it wasnt for the help of other experienced growers on here and the things ive learned i try to give bak to the community and help benefit others. I in no means beleive i am a master grower or hash genius. I just am an OCD Scorpio that loves a challenge.

I hope this helps at least one person on RUI and if u see sumthing u like then give Rep where Rep is do. I appreciate feedback and will rep back for good advice and constructive criticism.




And heres sum fun photos just to enjoy if you havent followed my monster outdoor grow or indoor grows. Theres links in my signature if ud like to pull up a chair or just skim thru. New photoshoots still await of the wife and new buds 8) :clap::clap::clap:












 

BooMeR242

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So its been a long day guys. As u can see the huge post above. the hash making was time consuming and writing out and organizing photos was a pain but worth it. i added the link to the actually thread for discussion in my signature if u want to join any discussion with us in the advanced growing forum.



But this is a small fast tutorial on my transplanting methods for any newbies out there or peeps wanting to mix up their method. i know other methods like aero cloning etc and weve kinda touched on that already this thread so we will leave that discussion out. But if anyone has questions bout the transplanting let me know.


I picked up 6 new sour grape clones from my buddy whos the manager at the collective and i used Sunshine #4 soilless mix for my grow medium.
Im using these clones as my mother plants and will need to make sure theyre healthy and strong so extra care is being taken. I fill pull out 6 3.5 gallon square containers and fill them up with the soilless mix.



Then i get out my clones and get everything organized and within a hands reach.



I packed down the soilless mix a lil tight but not too tight that roots cant grow thru.

I use Superthrive which is a secret formula the company hides but it great for transplanting and helping the plant recover from any other stress it may endure. I put one drop in a cupfull of water and dunk the clone root mass in it for a couple seconds to soak.



Then i did out a little hole big enough for the root mass to fit in



And i push the dirt gently towards the new clone and pack around the root mass.



Learning from my past mistake gettin clones from an unknown dispensary i got fuckd up clones with powdery mildew already on it and was my fault for not taking extra precautiions and using a disinfectant to avoid pest and fungi issues. this time i am taking no chances and using sum Immunox (suggested by Drella [thanks brotha]) and spray the top and bottom of the leafs. I tprotects against everything; spider mites, aphids, powdery mildew, fungi, etc. cost $6 and comes already mixed in spray bottle ready for use.



Then i fill another cupfull of water and a drop of superthrive and poor it all on each clone individually repeating the water to make sure the clones get drenched and ready to grow!

Throw em under ur veg lights and ur good to go!:bigjoint:

As u can see for my startup closet clone room; I added another T5 lamp and still got the fan blowing and temps perfect at 75 degrees and 50% humidty. Everythings dialed in and the ladies are ready for a long journey! Hope this helps some peeps.

 

MyGTO2007

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So its been a long day guys. As u can see the huge post above. the hash making was time consuming and writing out and organizing photos was a pain but worth it. i added the link to the actually thread for discussion in my signature if u want to join any discussion with us in the advanced growing forum.



But this is a small fast tutorial on my transplanting methods for any newbies out there or peeps wanting to mix up their method. i know other methods like aero cloning etc and weve kinda touched on that already this thread so we will leave that discussion out. But if anyone has questions bout the transplanting let me know.


I picked up 6 new sour grape clones from my buddy whos the manager at the collective and i used Sunshine #4 soilless mix for my grow medium.
Im using these clones as my mother plants and will need to make sure theyre healthy and strong so extra care is being taken. I fill pull out 6 3.5 gallon square containers and fill them up with the soilless mix.



Then i get out my clones and get everything organized and within a hands reach.



I packed down the soilless mix a lil tight but not too tight that roots cant grow thru.

I use Superthrive which is a secret formula the company hides but it great for transplanting and helping the plant recover from any other stress it may endure. I put one drop in a cupfull of water and dunk the clone root mass in it for a couple seconds to soak.



Then i did out a little hole big enough for the root mass to fit in



And i push the dirt gently towards the new clone and pack around the root mass.



Learning from my past mistake gettin clones from an unknown dispensary i got fuckd up clones with powdery mildew already on it and was my fault for not taking extra precautiions and using a disinfectant to avoid pest and fungi issues. this time i am taking no chances and using sum Immunox (suggested by Drella [thanks brotha]) and spray the top and bottom of the leafs. I tprotects against everything; spider mites, aphids, powdery mildew, fungi, etc. cost $6 and comes already mixed in spray bottle ready for use.



Then i fill another cupfull of water and a drop of superthrive and poor it all on each clone individually repeating the water to make sure the clones get drenched and ready to grow!

Throw em under ur veg lights and ur good to go!:bigjoint:

As u can see for my startup closet clone room; I added another T5 lamp and still got the fan blowing and temps perfect at 75 degrees and 50% humidty. Everythings dialed in and the ladies are ready for a long journey! Hope this helps some peeps.


Nice Update Boomer........that must of took awhile

Not to be rude Boomer but
Fuck Yer Girlfriend is Fucking HOT...........MY GOD!!!! Yer A lucky Dude!!!!

 

northeastern lights

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Nice job Boomer +rep, now that took some time. I like the custon drill stand. But the only way to go is using a washer machine. I bought one of the mini's and even that is too time consuming. Once you try the washer you'll never mix again.
 

wonderblunder

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Damn Boomer, I was just swinging by and ended up spending the afternoon! Nice tutorials, real sweet. Awesome job of documenting the process, Very Impressive.
Those new SG clones look good and healthy!
Keep it up!
 

Hulk Nugs

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Very nice boomer!!!!

Thanks for all the info, and pictures always nice to see and read whats going on

dam crazywhiteboyz getting the job done

:leaf::-P:leaf:
 

Drella

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boomer, nice hash tutorial mang! those micro bags are the way to go. i too, like the custom rack for the drill motor, a lot of work man, im sure youre hitting the hash as we speak. good luck on the new clones man, really made my day seeing that you transplanted them! im freaking jocking your square pot man. where did you get them? i too use sunshine mix, and superthirve! i knew great minds think alike. hope the immunox works out for you, im sure you'll do fine!
 

greenthumb111

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boomer, nice hash tutorial mang! those micro bags are the way to go. i too, like the custom rack for the drill motor, a lot of work man, im sure youre hitting the hash as we speak. good luck on the new clones man, really made my day seeing that you transplanted them! im freaking jocking your square pot man. where did you get them? i too use sunshine mix, and superthirve! i knew great minds think alike. hope the immunox works out for you, im sure you'll do fine!
Prevention is worth pounds. Nice clone transplant and very nice hash tutorial. I would have to agree though the washing machine is the way to go for large scale. When are you giving us the smoke report on the grades of hash? Inquiring minds want to know.
 

#1Raiderfan420

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Very nice Boomer! Look at you, you are regular how-to guide. lol Thanks for sharing your hash process! :) +rep, even tho I don't think you use the rep system ;)
 

BooMeR242

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boomer, nice hash tutorial mang! those micro bags are the way to go. i too, like the custom rack for the drill motor, a lot of work man, im sure youre hitting the hash as we speak. good luck on the new clones man, really made my day seeing that you transplanted them! im freaking jocking your square pot man. where did you get them? i too use sunshine mix, and superthirve! i knew great minds think alike. hope the immunox works out for you, im sure you'll do fine!

haha thanks bro ya the drill motor support makes the workload half as hard. still is a lot of heavy lifting holding up the bags full of water and lettin them sift thru.

ya i love the square pots. we used all square pots for our indoor grow. so i have like 40 pots. i got them at greencoast hydro. they always hook me up with shit im sure u can find em at any hydro store. if not head my way! ill take u in and get 30% off everything
 

BooMeR242

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Prevention is worth pounds. Nice clone transplant and very nice hash tutorial. I would have to agree though the washing machine is the way to go for large scale. When are you giving us the smoke report on the grades of hash? Inquiring minds want to know.


ya i read a lil on the washing machine method but i had already bought the hashbags and wasnt gonna invest on a used washing machine lol. i just mite have to soon tho cuz its a lot of heavy lifting holding the bags up and squeezing the water thru 5 bags.

smoke report will be soon once they dry up all the way. the first round (run thru 1 and 2) are almost dried. round 2 (run thru one) should be done tomorrow. then today we are finishing round two run thru 2. then doin round 3 run thru 1 and 2. hoping to try and get round 4 and 5 and 6 maybe 7 and 8 done. so basically i could be doin a total of 16 run thrus. which is a joke conisdering it seems to take a 2 hour cycle for it to be done each run thru and the ice cold water freezes ur hands and lifting and holding 5 gallons worth of water in a bucket gets old. and i work out... lol:wall:
 

BooMeR242

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Very nice Boomer! Look at you, you are regular how-to guide. lol Thanks for sharing your hash process! :) +rep, even tho I don't think you use the rep system ;)
thanks man ya i wanted to do a full step by step make it idiout proof cuz im very visual and thats wat works for me lol.

and i do too use the rep system. pretty sure ive repped u as well my friend. lol
 

slabhead

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yo Boomer, yeah it's a lot more work than you think huh? When I saw the 2 hours comment I thought "yeah right, I wanna see this". lol Just a thought on your mixing station, if you mix in a separate bucket w/o the bags then pour the slurry into your bags you don't have to worry about nicking a bag or getting one twisted up in the mixer. Very nice tutorial, that took some time but the shot of your gf helping made it much more worthwhile. ha thx for sharing. Aint that last bag a bitch?
Say are those square pots the Super Pots or rose buckets? Looking forward to seeing those clones exploding, later slab
 

BooMeR242

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yo Boomer, yeah it's a lot more work than you think huh? When I saw the 2 hours comment I thought "yeah right, I wanna see this". lol Just a thought on your mixing station, if you mix in a separate bucket w/o the bags then pour the slurry into your bags you don't have to worry about nicking a bag or getting one twisted up in the mixer. Very nice tutorial, that took some time but the shot of your gf helping made it much more worthwhile. ha thx for sharing. Aint that last bag a bitch?
Say are those square pots the Super Pots or rose buckets? Looking forward to seeing those clones exploding, later slab


haha ya i wasnt expecting that much work honestly. but its well worth it.
it takes one hour total just of mixing and sitting then was taking about an hour to sift the water thru the bags. but we figured out a rock n shake method to speed the process up so it takes like 20-30 mins now to sift the water thru and scoop the hash out and move to the next screen bag.
ya i figured u guys wouldnt mind a couple shots of the lady.

the square pots arent anything special. not sure who makes em ill try and take a clsoer look tho later.
 
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