Boomer's 2400w Sour Grape GrowOp w/ ScrOG & CO2

What will I yield per 600w HPS lamp?


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slabhead

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"Lt Dan, you got legs."
"Titanium, like the space shuttle."

Looking for the updates. Best wishes on the PT.
 

d.c. beard

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Here you go Boomer, I made this prototype a while back. The huge backpack is the only drawback, but that's where the midget rides. He controls all your movements through a complicated system of ropes and pulleys. Let me know if you want me to ship it out to ya.

 

#1Raiderfan420

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haha at first bterz i thought u were writing me that i was like uhhh come on man i know wats up... lol

but ya i thinki i replied to his post as well sayin the same thing about the temps. u just clarified a little more.

my room just for clarification is a co2 generator setup for a 3200sqft greenhouse and set for 1500ppm level. completely sealed and aircooled hoods with 2000cfm

I am curious too Boomer are you going to have a sepreate exhaust fan to kick on every once in a while to refresh the air or are you keeping it sealed? Sorry if this is redundant. Also are you gonna have a chiller res for the CO2 gen or are you just going to RTW? I have been reading on how much water they use and it sounds like a re with a chiller in it to recycle the water through the generator works and saves a shit load of water.

Good vibes at ya on a speedy recovery! :bigjoint:
 

BooMeR242

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I am curious too Boomer are you going to have a sepreate exhaust fan to kick on every once in a while to refresh the air or are you keeping it sealed? Sorry if this is redundant. Also are you gonna have a chiller res for the CO2 gen or are you just going to RTW? I have been reading on how much water they use and it sounds like a re with a chiller in it to recycle the water through the generator works and saves a shit load of water.

Good vibes at ya on a speedy recovery! :bigjoint:
i dont have any other exhaust setup. spent enough money and time doin a huge vent design that takes up a shitload of room. so for fresh air exchange a simple door open should do the deed. if i have issues ill make the needed changes.

im not sure wat generator ure lookin at but the GEN-1 c02 generator i got plugs the regulator to the propane tank and the generator has four propane burners that burn 15ppm/hour. the heat and humidity and a byproduct i am aware of and prepared for. other then that im not aware of a chiller rez etc for the c02 gen.
 

#1Raiderfan420

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i dont have any other exhaust setup. spent enough money and time doin a huge vent design that takes up a shitload of room. so for fresh air exchange a simple door open should do the deed. if i have issues ill make the needed changes.

im not sure wat generator ure lookin at but the GEN-1 c02 generator i got plugs the regulator to the propane tank and the generator has four propane burners that burn 15ppm/hour. the heat and humidity and a byproduct i am aware of and prepared for. other then that im not aware of a chiller rez etc for the c02 gen.

Oh my bad, I was thinking it was the water cooled generator. As for the fresh air exchange, the only reason I ask, is because I have seen sealed set-ups with no outside air exchange which I guess is the true meaning of a sealed room. I was just wondering what your plan is.
 

Boulderheads

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Nice Work going with the MBP.. I have the first generation MBP that Apple came out with. It's nice to see the community of Apple users is growing. If you have any questions on what your MBP can do or need software programs for it I can help you immensely. I have been working on a Mac for nearly 6 years now. Haven't been around much due to school and lack of an op going right now, but I am glad to see your still rockin.

Peace-Boulder
 

Drella

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great picture DC, where the hell do you get those funny ass photos!

Boomer, i run a sealed room, in that i only have exhaust, so the air finds a way to passively intake. the plants get oxygen when i open the doors and let them breath. i want to someday get some co2 setup, but i think ur doing it right. good exhaust is one of my biggest priorities in growing, and youre duct work looks way powerful!
 

BooMeR242

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so the surgery went well but the doc had planned on just repairing my meniscus instead he had to take the whole damn thing out. so im short a ligament lol. story of my life. but ill just stay positive and be happy i still have my legs. (or wats left of them lol)
anyways it being my 4th surgery i was feeling pretty good once i got out and home so i decided to edit up the videos and upload sum pix for u guys via photobucket and hope u enjoy.

im planning on starting an entire new grow journal just for the sake of conveinance and ability to track my time frames for shit. this journal i guess we will just call it the theory into design and construction.

im also considering making a Ventilation and ducting thread under advanced if anyone thinks the design and setup of my pops AC methods is worth sharing with others.

as promised....

frame layout for hydro tables. designed standing vertical for added strentgh. caster wheels to turn any direction needed. they worked great on the board covered floor even with the pond liner down.















clones seem to be doin well dispite losing a few weaklings.






mother plants recovering nicely and huge growth noted once placed under the MH HID lamp





this is walkin into Room A; Flower room

ill list everything in the room at a later time. but as u can see hydro tables on wheels are done and operational. fans and all ducting is done as well. oscillating fans mounted ut need to be raised sum. scrog table still needs to be done.









































bongsmilie:bigjoint::bigjoint::bigjoint::bigjoint::bigjoint:bongsmiliebongsmilie
 

AudiA6Driver

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Wow i cant wait till there is a nice green sea in those trays :) looking good though, very professional look. Once i get a couple harvests under me i want a setup very similar to this(scrog, CO2, 4000w, 4 screens 12 plants), i like your go big or go home attitude lol. hope the recovery keeps going well and fast so you have more time to perfect these rooms!
 

#1Raiderfan420

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KICK ASS SET-UP!!! I would expect nothing less from you though man. You got me thinking about my room now. are those 4x8 trays or 3x6? Also is that a 50 gal res per tray? I really like the idea of the rollers on the tables. I am going to copy your design for sure on that one and with the pool liner over plywood or osb too. Great idea. You got that shit dialed man. I am glad you are right in front of me on the set-up that way I can steel all your great ideas. lol
That sucks about having to remove the ligament completley man, what does that do to your mobility or do you know yet?
 

d.c. beard

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Oh my bad, I was thinking it was the water cooled generator. As for the fresh air exchange, the only reason I ask, is because I have seen sealed set-ups with no outside air exchange which I guess is the true meaning of a sealed room. I was just wondering what your plan is.
From what I hear the best way to run CO2 is in a sealed room. What that means I gather is that you pump the room with CO2 constantly up to a certain level (say like 1600 ppm), and you do not have any intake or exhaust fans running generally speaking. Once the desired level is reached you simply maintain the level with a very low CO2 output (via CO2 climate control) rather than cranking it the whole time. Actually even with cranking it the whole time if you don't have the room sealed I don't see how you would get anything out of it at all really. It'll all just get sucked out with the room exhaust.

Anyway, every so often (actually whenever the temps go above a certain threshold like say 91 degrees or whatever you choose) another climate control device monitors the temps and when they get too high it kicks on your room intake/exhaust fans to bring fresh air into the room/exhaust spent air out and lower the temps back down to wherever you have it set. Then the fans kick off via the climate control again and you have a sealed room that will begin to fill back up with CO2.

Oh and this is all done with the use of 2 back-draft dampers, which work as 2 check valves for your airflow allowing the room to seal itself off when the fans stop running. They're spring-loaded.

Then you exhaust all your lamps separately, pulling fresh air in from outside the sealed room and also exhausting the spent air back outside of the sealed room as well.
 

#1Raiderfan420

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From what I hear the best way to run CO2 is in a sealed room. What that means I gather is that you pump the room with CO2 constantly up to a certain level (say like 1600 ppm), and you do not have any intake or exhaust fans running generally speaking. Once the desired level is reached you simply maintain the level with a very low CO2 output (via CO2 climate control) rather than cranking it the whole time. Actually even with cranking it the whole time if you don't have the room sealed I don't see how you would get anything out of it at all really. It'll all just get sucked out with the room exhaust.

Anyway, every so often (actually whenever the temps go above a certain threshold like say 91 degrees or whatever you choose) another climate control device monitors the temps and when they get too high it kicks on your room intake/exhaust fans to bring fresh air into the room/exhaust spent air out and lower the temps back down to wherever you have it set. Then the fans kick off via the climate control again and you have a sealed room that will begin to fill back up with CO2.

Oh and this is all done with the use of 2 back-draft dampers, which work as 2 check valves for your airflow allowing the room to seal itself off when the fans stop running. They're spring-loaded.

Then you exhaust all your lamps separately, pulling fresh air in from outside the sealed room and also exhausting the spent air back outside of the sealed room as well.

Great explanation Bro. I do understand for the most part how the sealed room works, I have heard however of exhausting a couple times during the lights off, since most of the time the CO2 is not running then anyway. I just wonder if it would be beneficial to replace the air while they are sleeping or if it doesn;t matter. Thanks again for the detailed explanation man.
 

trichlone fiend

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honestly itll b my first time using c02 myself so i cant answer in too much confidence but from wat i understand u were right to run c02 during daytime hours. c02 injection allows u to push temps 80-90degrees. 85 being prime for c02 uptake. at least thats wat i remember reading from my research.
also c02 is meant to speed up the growth in cannabis but does not make the potency of the thc any higher from wat ive also read. the stickiness im not sure... theres many variables in wat ure comparing too... nutes? strains? etc... but idk if id be able to solve that one for u. but big nugs are great to hear regardless!
...yeah, this is crazy...right now I'm in FFOF, using my organic teas....I've been doing this for a couple years now using freash air, and I get some stinky, sticky, nasty, nugs...but, only 3/4 elbow per 600w HPS...I'm trying to get over a bow...you already know...who don't want more, right? I kept my temps 85-90, the temps stayed around 78 - 80 while the lights were off though (using a CD-6 co2 burner w/ monitor caused heat constantly)....

...idk man, I'm puzzled. They are fluffy as hell, but...just don't have the same funk to them....tonight was supposed to be my harvest night (8 wks) I posted pics in my journal, they look stupid sticky, but...nothing like normal.... all the trichs are clear/cloudy still yet....I have the feeling somewhere along the line, too much co2 will stunt our shit man....I chat elsewhere ya know, a guy told me that co2 makes the plants put all their energy into producing size, and slacks elsewhere! ...they forsure made a hell of alot more pistils....idk, I'm stuck like Chuck!:sad:
 
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