Breaker tripped again.

TwistItUp

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I didn't read everything cuz there was a lot but I still want to add my own experience with this type of thing.
I run all my 110v in my room on a 110v breaker that shares the bathroom and kitchen on the west side of the house, being all the rooms on the back of the house.
So for me I am lucky because the bathroom and kitchen and my room is on a 20 amp circuit. the other rooms are only 15 amp. For my ballast that runs on 240v from a sub box in the garage that was installed just below the panel for out laundry. This was installed years ago by an electrician for a hot tub that never worked. I re routed the wire into my room so I could off load some power usage from the 110 to the 240v. But I was still popping the 110v GFI in my room. If I had no GFI it would pop the breaker. What I thought was odd is that it wasn't popping when I turned power on but was happening when I turned my light switch off. I replaced the GFI and the light switch, I have another socket to install still. But as soon as I replaced those two things I haven't popped anything since. I had these issues before but it was popping more and more often after getting more and better indoor gear. When I swapped the light switch and GFI I discovered the old switch was only rated to 15 amps. The new GFI, other socket, and light switch is all 15/20 and 20 amp. Not sure if that helps you any but that's what I was experiencing anyway.
 

malicifice

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15 amp breaker hmmm
All great advice. Talk to your electrician about adding a sub box for your grow. I traded with my electrician for his services;)
Still waiting on them, it's a small job so hopefully I can feel him out and see what I can work out of him. I have a jar or 2 I could toss his way. First thing I thought this morning too, wonder if I can get hooked up from this?
 

TwistItUp

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I find it very odd and scary that the garage and bathroom share a circuit. The bathroom should be on it's own and gfci protected. Might be worth it to have the electrician quote you on doing that. Then you'll have the existing circuit all to your self. And your girl won't electrocute herself.
The garage and bathroom don't share a breaker. Every room on the west side of the house along the back of the house share a breaker, being the back family room, kitchen, bathroom, and my room. These rooms are all on a 20 amp breaker. the bathroom actually doesn't even have a GFI. I only have GFI because I put one in in my room and that is the only GFI in the whole house even. The garage is on its own circuit for 110v, and the garage is were a separate panel is for the 220 for the laundry which is on the back patio. The electrician installed another panel in the garage just below the panel for the laundry. I re routed that wiring from the second panel into my room. Even the hot tub that never worked right didn't have any GFI. Or rather it did but it was funky wiring. The thing never heated up, we bought it used and got scammed.

Or are you back to the OP, I'm confused. Again, I didn't read every post so I'm confused.
 

whitebb2727

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You could put the 15 amp in.
Turn the main off. The breaker just pulls out. Remove wires. Put wires exactly the same way on new breaker and snap back in.

If you have empty slots you could add a second breaker just for the bathroom and then one for the room.

Its not that hard. Make sure no power is on, test with meter. Then it just basic work.

Do not get stoned and work on electric. I saw a buddy blow the filling out of his mouth on a dryer.
 

TwistItUp

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15 amp breaker hmmm

Still waiting on them, it's a small job so hopefully I can feel him out and see what I can work out of him. I have a jar or 2 I could toss his way. First thing I thought this morning too, wonder if I can get hooked up from this?
Yeah, that should be the same as what others were saying when they said a hair dryer pulls a lot of power. You might not have high enough amps on the breaker.
Or on the receptacle or a light switch. Figure out how many amp's your breaker is. Then have your electrician tell you if your wiring is rated for more amps. If it is maybe you can swap the breaker, receptacles, switches. If the wiring is not rated for more amps don't put in the higher amp switches and sockets. Another thing you could do is add up the amps of all the devices you are trying to run at the time it pops.
 

TwistItUp

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You could put the 15 amp in.
Turn the main off. The breaker just pulls out. Remove wires. Put wires exactly the same way on new breaker and snap back in.

If you have empty slots you could add a second breaker just for the bathroom and then one for the room.

Its not that hard. Make sure no power is on, test with meter. Then it just basic work.

Do not get stoned and work on electric. I saw a buddy blow the filling out of his mouth on a dryer.
I like that idea of him adding another breaker just for his grow room. I would have liked to have done this too but our panel is so old here I couldn't do it. Our breakers are real old and hard to find, and there wasn't any open slots anyway. If I wanted to run another breaker I think I would have to replace the panel. Or add another panel piggy back. haha, when I first got my indoor grow going and re routed that wiring from the garage. Nothing electrical worked properly anywhere on the property. Anything that did work would pulse, or things like the microwave would seem to be running at half power. I called the electric company and they came out. The guy said the main wire was lose where it connects to the house, he repaired that and everything has been working fine. I'm not so sure I did the wiring right for the new 240v socket. There was 4 wires before for the hot tub. The new socket only had lugs for 3 wires. I hooked everything up according to the instructions on the box the new receptacle came in and then tested with a multi meter and it was working. But one wire I put a wire nut on it then electrical tape over that. In the panel I un hooked that 4th wire.
 
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whitebb2727

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I like that idea of him adding another breaker just for his grow room. I would have liked to have done this too but our panel is so old here I couldn't do it. Our breakers are real old and hard to find, and there wasn't any open slots anyway. If I wanted to run another breaker I think I would have to replace the panel. Or add another panel piggy back.
If you have two slots open you run 220 to the grow room and add a small sub panel with a few breakers in it.

That is how I wired my 12x20 shop.
 

neosapien

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The garage and bathroom don't share a breaker. Every room on the west side of the house along the back of the house share a breaker, being the back family room, kitchen, bathroom, and my room. These rooms are all on a 20 amp breaker. the bathroom actually doesn't even have a GFI. I only have GFI because I put one in in my room and that is the only GFI in the whole house even. The garage is on its own circuit for 110v, and the garage is were a separate panel is for the 220 for the laundry which is on the back patio. The electrician installed another panel in the garage just below the panel for the laundry. I re routed that wiring from the second panel into my room. Even the hot tub that never worked right didn't have any GFI. Or rather it did but it was funky wiring. The thing never heated up, we bought it used and got scammed.

Or are you back to the OP, I'm confused. Again, I didn't read every post so I'm confused.
Yeah I was talking to the OP. I didn't read through either. I'm confused too now. But your situation sounds even more ludacris than the OP's. 4 rooms on 1 20amp circuit, that's bananas.

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This will make your life easier. See the empty slots.
Its a Square D panel. Ive upgraded a few homes from screw in fuses to these.

What service amp do you have? 100 or 200?
I have the Square D QQ's and like them too.
 

malicifice

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Ok $105.00 later, let me be Stanley stupid for the lesson. I live in a split level home, rooms down stairs, living room and kitchen master bedroom all up stairs. The grow was plugged in the garage on those outlets sharing breaker with the bathrooms. The gfci plug, the ones that say test/reset on them. Yeah. That little bastard in the bathroom we never use tripped as well, everything else on that breaker was down stream from that plug. Once that plug was reset everything was fine. So I paid $65.00 for some one to come push a button in:wall:. I had him replace the 15 amp with a 20 since he was already here. The 15 amp was fine no damage. What a load of horse shit. LOL oh well, time to smoke a bowl and do some yoga. So I learned how to change out a breaker and how to plan out my electrical usage better, pretty fuckin expensive lesson.
 

neosapien

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAAHHAHA


OH GOD THAT'S GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!

But still that's crazy the bathroom and garage are on the same circuit. Also, technically speaking, you shouldn't just change a 15amp breaker to a 20 amp breaker. Supposed to use 12 gauge wire rated for 20. Technically speaking. Did the electrician tell you this? Oh well, now you know... and knowing is half the battle.
 

Unclebaldrick

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAAHHAHA


OH GOD THAT'S GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!

But still that's crazy the bathroom and garage are on the same circuit. Also, technically speaking, you shouldn't just change a 15amp breaker to a 20 amp breaker. Supposed to use 12 gauge wire rated for 20. Technically speaking. Did the electrician tell you this? Oh well, now you know... and knowing is half the battle.
Yeah dude, should have put in a 50
 
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