Brown Wilting and a little crispy...

SeeRockCity

Active Member
So... my White Widow that just got to week 8 of flower lost all her fan leaves.
After flushing, she got kind of crispy...so I went ahead and harvested.

there are two others showing similar symptoms....


Sick Widow - SickWidow3.jpg ------- SickWidow2.jpg ---- SickSweeTooth2.jpg ---- SickWidow5.jpg


Sick Sweetooth - SickSweetooth.jpg ---- SickSweetooth3.jpg ---- SickWidow.jpg



and a few pics of my healthy ones.....


Healthy White Widow: HealthyWidow.jpg ---- HealthyWidow2.jpg ---- HealthyWidowArial.jpg

Healthy (but small) Bubblegum - BubbleGum.jpg



help!
 

SeeRockCity

Active Member
not really. I am on the Fox Farm basic three....
supplemented with molasses, and epsom (recently replaced with calmag)

little bit of Humbolt Big Up every other week or so in flower...
 

hyroot

Well-Known Member
You under watered. When soil gets too dry too often. Leaves will curl upwards a little bit and turn crispy. Lower leaves will die off. You do also have nute burns. Cut back on the phos.
 

SeeRockCity

Active Member
Negative on the under watering.... if anything I OVER water.
They get a watering a minimum of every 48 hours.

These plants were 100% fine.... then they showed signs of calcium deficiency.
I gave them CalMag and stopped all nutes for a week.... only CalMag and water... 1tsp / gal

any other theories?
 

hyroot

Well-Known Member
Oh ok that made it easy. You used too much Cal mag. Too much calcium or low ph will cause potassium lock out. You have a potassium deficieny. Flush. Then make a compost tea with kelp meal in it. Jobes organic heirloom tomato mix from Home depot will work great. Its high in potassium. $10

Fyi too much mag can cause Cal lock out.
 

SeeRockCity

Active Member
ah ha!

interesting.... won't do that again!
made my beautiful ladies look like SHIIIIIT

I use straight potassium silicate in my soil...
will have to add some to the topsoil when I flush....
 

SeeRockCity

Active Member
Oh ok that made it easy. You used too much Cal mag. Too much calcium or low ph will cause potassium lock out. You have a potassium deficieny. Flush. Then make a compost tea with kelp meal in it. Jobes organic heirloom tomato mix from Home depot will work great. Its high in potassium. $10

Fyi too much mag can cause Cal lock out.
hey, so I flushed the crap out of it and added my FoxFarms Big Bloom and Tiger BLoom (both containint potassium)...
do you think that will do the trick?
leaves are still browning and dying..
I'm, not sure if I should chop or wait...
I fear if I wait...my buds will wilt too..

this sucks
 

AimAim

Well-Known Member
I use a minimum 1 tsp/gal of cal-mag every watering, from seedling to harvest and never OD on it. You never said if you were soil or hydro.....
 

Bakatare666

Well-Known Member
hey, so I flushed the crap out of it and added my FoxFarms Big Bloom and Tiger BLoom (both containint potassium)...
do you think that will do the trick?
leaves are still browning and dying..
I'm, not sure if I should chop or wait...
I fear if I wait...my buds will wilt too..

this sucks
How about some fresh pics?
If was me, and I flushed to try to eliminate a lockout situation, I would wait a week or so before feeding ANYTHING again.
To me, I would agree with the burn opinion, as in your first and second pics, the tips of the lower leaves more than anything else are showing the most damage.
As far as your 'buds wilting', as long as you water, they should be OK for a quick minute.
What you are going through right now, is foliage damage, which, if you don't get under control, will cause the slowing if not complete lack of growth as far as the buds are concerned.
Need leaves to grow, right?:wink:
 

SeeRockCity

Active Member
How about some fresh pics?
If was me, and I flushed to try to eliminate a lockout situation, I would wait a week or so before feeding ANYTHING again.
To me, I would agree with the burn opinion, as in your first and second pics, the tips of the lower leaves more than anything else are showing the most damage.
As far as your 'buds wilting', as long as you water, they should be OK for a quick minute.
What you are going through right now, is foliage damage, which, if you don't get under control, will cause the slowing if not complete lack of growth as far as the buds are concerned.
Need leaves to grow, right?:wink:
I started a new thread with newer pics....
because the healthiest Widow I had decided to follow suit in wilting...

they all got a good flush...
and they all look pitiful as shit.

I'm on the fence as to letting it live to finish or not...I dont want the buds to wilt

https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/646380-white-widow-life-support-chop.html

+rep for anyone who gives correct advice....
i just hope that she takes the flush and moves one.... my flower room went from an awesome canopy that smelled terriffic
to 4 days later.... 3 of 4 plants wilting and dying and a HORRIBLE smell of wilting, browning leaves coming from my flower room.

I really just want to cry...
my investment got fucked right before I got a return.
 

Beeve

Member
ah ha!

interesting.... won't do that again!
made my beautiful ladies look like SHIIIIIT

I use straight potassium silicate in my soil...
will have to add some to the topsoil when I flush....
When I use Potassium Silicate- I dilute 1/4ml to 1 liter of water. And I don't do that every watering. I do that every third watering. The Potassium Silicate will strengthen your stems and branches- kind of what Rhino skin does.
 
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