Browning leaves

Chronic11

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This looks like PH lockout. I can see you're not fully saturating the pot, and that's good, but yeah... I've recovered worse with a 10.5-11 ph flush. May be best to just toss that one if you're not experienced in hard PH corrections.... I'd guess this one is in the low 5's PH.
I’ve no experience in testing ph at all. Ill do some research and get something to test my water asap. I’d like to try to save if it possible. Not sure if lowes has a ph up/down as I’ve read about but I will look for it. To determine the ph of the soil properly I would check the run off?
 

PadawanWarrior

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I’ve no experience in testing ph at all. Ill do some research and get something to test my water asap. I’d like to try to save if it possible. Not sure if lowes has a ph up/down as I’ve read about but I will look for it. To determine the ph of the soil properly I would check the run off?
You can use a fresh water aquarium pH kit. Or a spa pH kit to check the water.
 

PadawanWarrior

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You don't want my advise on getting a PH meter...... unless you have an open checkbook?
Not all of us can take our old shit to our backyard and dispose of shit properly, :lol:

 

Chronic11

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You don't want my advise on getting a PH meter...... unless you have an open checkbook?
For now the budget friendly route would be best I do appreciate any information though in regards to what works/what’s ideal. It may take a while but eventually I’d like to have the best tools and knowledge to be successful at growing. My fingers are crossed that I can get these girls to flower and produce bud, even if not the hugest gains. Hands on approach and seeing the whole process take place will help me a lot going forward I feel. Thanks for all the infos so far btw, it is greatly appreciated.
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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For now the budget friendly route would be best I do appreciate any information though in regards to what works/what’s ideal. It may take a while but eventually I’d like to have the best tools and knowledge to be successful at growing. My fingers are crossed that I can get these girls to flower and produce bud, even if not the hugest gains. Hands on approach and seeing the whole process take place will help me a lot going forward I feel. Thanks for all the infos so far btw, it is greatly appreciated.
There's some good info in my grow journal in my signature..... some of it is not ideal for the home grower, but there's some decent info in there.
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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Not all of us can take our old shit to our backyard and dispose of shit properly, :lol:

You CAN.... but I can do it without any hassles. Disclaimer: I am not responsible for your actions or legal allegations.
 

Chronic11

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There's some good info in my grow journal in my signature..... some of it is not ideal for the home grower, but there's some decent info in there.
I’m definitely gonna check that out! I’m not too familiar with this site yet and ended up on pictures of your grow (I think) which looked astounding! Fucking amazing haha. I’ll check back in later to find the journal and give an update on the ph. Thanks for all the answers, I’d say it gets annoying helping noobs haha. Peace, for now.
 

PadawanWarrior

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I’m definitely gonna check that out! I’m not too familiar with this site yet and ended up on pictures of your grow (I think) which looked astounding! Fucking amazing haha. I’ll check back in later to find the journal and give an update on the ph. Thanks for all the answers, I’d say it gets annoying helping noobs haha. Peace, for now.
Most of us are happy to help. Compound man too. Nobody has all the answers, and we can never stop learning. Ok, now I sound old, I'm done kids, but stay off my lawn.
 

Chronic11

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Update. Leaves progressively getting worse, still showing new growth though especially along the nodes. Have not made any adjustments since my last post, other than to an 18/6 light cycle. I’ve ordered general hydroponics ph control kit, dyna gro grow and bloom, protekt, plant ties/stakes, and a hygrometer. Just waiting on it to arrive. Plan is to get the ph in check and then give them a feed. Also to start lst. I’m thinking half dose, but I may do a full dose as I would imagine they are hungry. A lot of stuff I read say my plant shows nute burn symptoms but that it also could be deficient and look similar. I’m just unsure, I would imagine they’re deficient since I’ve not fed them. My initial thought was the mg soil would feed enough. One thing I’m particularly worried about is having to water my plants heavy in order to test the runoff ph. I’ve done one water to runoff, and it contributed to my initial overwatering. Had to wait nearly two weeks before watering again and since then I have not been watering to runoff, as the pots seem to be too big for these plants. Any advice will be greatly appreciated, thanks all.
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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You''re PH locked out. IDK if you even want to try to recover this, some would just start over, but i have a thread somewhere about hard PH corrections... lemme see if I can find it.... caveat...you don't have an accurate digital PH meter. Find someone who does, or pony up for one. It's the only way you'll know for sure what's going on at the root zone.


Here it is... https://www.rollitup.org/t/hard-ph-corrections.1046732/
 

Chronic11

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You''re PH locked out. IDK if you even want to try to recover this, some would just start over, but i have a thread somewhere about hard PH corrections... lemme see if I can find it.... caveat...you don't have an accurate digital PH meter. Find someone who does, or pony up for one. It's the only way you'll know for sure what's going on at the root zone.


Here it is... https://www.rollitup.org/t/hard-ph-corrections.1046732/
Thanks man. Do you think I could do a flush, figure out the ph and flush with ph adjusted water to bring it up/down? I do have a couple seedlings I just started (In solo cups) and a plant just starting veg in a smaller clay pot. They’re in the same soil though. I’ve ordered some 2gal fabric pots I plan to put them in, and I ordered a coco brick to use when I do. Hopefully they do better. For the other plants though I would like to ride it out and see what I can do.
 

Hairybuds

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You could transplant into larger pots with better medium, would solve your problem. Tear 1/3 of the top soil off, you should easily be able to there usually isn’t substantial roots in the top 1/3, then replace that with fresh medium
 
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DoubleAtotheRON

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Thanks man. Do you think I could do a flush, figure out the ph and flush with ph adjusted water to bring it up/down? I do have a couple seedlings I just started (In solo cups) and a plant just starting veg in a smaller clay pot. They’re in the same soil though. I’ve ordered some 2gal fabric pots I plan to put them in, and I ordered a coco brick to use when I do. Hopefully they do better. For the other plants though I would like to ride it out and see what I can do.
When and IF you find out where you're at on PH (really guessing it's low tho), you can either flush with high PH water at 3 times the volume of the pot, and follow up immediately with a PH adjusted nute mix, or just flush with PH mixed nutes. I prefer the latter. No matter if your nute mix is on par, if the PH is out of whack, they will not take them up. I think this is your case.
 

Chronic11

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When and IF you find out where you're at on PH (really guessing it's low tho), you can either flush with high PH water at 3 times the volume of the pot, and follow up immediately with a PH adjusted nute mix, or just flush with PH mixed nutes. I prefer the latter. No matter if your nute mix is on par, if the PH is out of whack, they will not take them up. I think this is your case.
I went out and bought some cheap test strips to use while I wait on the ph kit to come in the mail. It looks like my water ph is fine. I took a sample of soil from one of my pots in a water bottle, watered it and collected the run off. It would appear my soil is indeed low ph. In the picture below the right three strips are my water, the left two strips are the runoff. The ph kit with up/down isn’t supposed to arrive until Jan 25th unfortunately.
 

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DoubleAtotheRON

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I went out and bought some cheap test strips to use while I wait on the ph kit to come in the mail. It looks like my water ph is fine. I took a sample of soil from one of my pots in a water bottle, watered it and collected the run off. It would appear my soil is indeed low ph. In the picture below the right three strips are my water, the left two strips are the runoff. The ph kit with up/down isn’t supposed to arrive until Jan 25th unfortunately.
Yep!.. and if your runoff is that low, your soil is prob lower.
 
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