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View attachment 1678734View attachment 1678735View attachment 1678736 my last set up. Didn't work as well as my first one. I know I had heat issues in my rez.
Bubble cloners - how long?
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watchhowIdoit
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I have gotten the best results just using straight distilled water. 7-10days average. Only good use for distilled water I have found when it comes to growing.
2x 12" air stones in each cloner. The lid is dripping wet inside. it is a container with 3.7 gals water in it and a 106gal/hour dual outlet air pump. Ive been told not to mist them as this feeds them and doesnt force them to gow roots to get food, there is a lot of conflicting info out there. The leaves on the clones look fine, just the clones not producing roots
Jesushasdreads
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i get roots in 7 to 12 days with my bubble cloner....i use a shop light with 2 t12 flouro tubes 1 red 1 blue ph balanced tap water 6.0 one aquafuse and rootech cloning gel. i have taken clones from outdoor plants and brought them back, drooped and wilted and not lost a single one!
i leave the water level a bit lower, and never really add water unless my ph is too low, then i take out water and add only tap water (no ph at all) to bring ph back between 5.5-6.5 the room they are in is easily 100+ degrees in the daytime, back to around 70-80 over night. water in my cloner is easily 80+ degrees at any given time.....probably has been over 100
24/7 light cycle, i adjust ph every day and transplant when growth tip resumes growth.
my last batch of clones around day 7-8 some still to take root......i've also had success with grodan grow cubes, but would not reccomend this method....starter plugs are more difficult to an inexperienced grower. bubbleponics is your key to cloning success
i leave the water level a bit lower, and never really add water unless my ph is too low, then i take out water and add only tap water (no ph at all) to bring ph back between 5.5-6.5 the room they are in is easily 100+ degrees in the daytime, back to around 70-80 over night. water in my cloner is easily 80+ degrees at any given time.....probably has been over 100
24/7 light cycle, i adjust ph every day and transplant when growth tip resumes growth.
my last batch of clones around day 7-8 some still to take root......i've also had success with grodan grow cubes, but would not reccomend this method....starter plugs are more difficult to an inexperienced grower. bubbleponics is your key to cloning successthats pretty much what ive been doing except the 100+ air temps and 80+ water temps. Also I only check ph about every 3 days as there is very little fluctuation, I checked it today it was 6.2, i adjusted it to 5.8 with 2 drops ph down.
From reading around it seems the water isnt that important as some people get great results in non-ph'd water, some get great results when ph'd to 5.5-6.5, so im pretty sure the water i have is ok, cant seem to figure out what is slowing/stopping the root formation on my clones
DrtyBngWtr
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search for my bubble cloner 15 day roots... I get roots in 7 days max... they get cut, dipped in some rootech gel, put n a neoprene sleeve and dropped n a 2 inch net cup... my water is just inside the bottom of the cups. my water has 1/4 strength HN 3 part line. water is ph'd 5.5 to 6.0. no heater or anything. sometimes the water is 60F sometimes its upwords of 80F. They are normally stubbled in about 3 days... simply drop the water level to just below the cups and let the bubbles keep them jut wet enough they pop roots to search for more water!
Well at the moment im letting the water level drop, they are slightly submerged at the moment, in 1-2 days the water will be 1/2-1 inch below the bottom of the stem, however in my last run a few months ago, this also did nothing.
Ferredoxin
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I use a DIY aerocloner, and I usually get roots in 5-10 days with tapwater. I dont bubble the water however....I have 1/2" PVC in the shape of an 'H' fitted to a submersible pump with cheapo 360 degree 1/4" spray barbs spaced evenly throughout. I cant remember a time that I actually lost a cutting. I take extras, and usually throw them all away...lol. 100% success is the norm for me.
Using cloning gel, etc... in an aero/bubbler is not really necessary...it gets washed off right away. I find the most important part of the cutting process is to shave off very thin layers of material from the area I want roots to protrude from. This does the same thing as rooting hormone, which serves to soften the exterior layer of plant material so that roots (generated from the cambium) can break thru.
Using cloning gel, etc... in an aero/bubbler is not really necessary...it gets washed off right away. I find the most important part of the cutting process is to shave off very thin layers of material from the area I want roots to protrude from. This does the same thing as rooting hormone, which serves to soften the exterior layer of plant material so that roots (generated from the cambium) can break thru.
I did shave off the top layer on the bottom 1/2-1 inch of each clone before putting it in the cloner. Next time I wont use any clonex gel, but will it actually cause any problems if it goes into the cloner?
DrtyBngWtr
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Rooting hormone only helps... The rootech gel I use is thick enough and no it doesn't wash off instantly. If your not shooting roots try backing off your lights! When your plants are in a hydro system of any sorts your plants will thrive normally. the only problem problem is seedlings and cuttings are supposed to be rooting and not growing... If your plants are still nice and perky just try dropping the lumens your throwing at them. it may be that the particular light you are using is just to intense... seriously if you have healthy clones after a week try throwing them in darkness over night...
I highered the light another foot. it is only a 125w equivalent cfl, so its not that bright. but i'll give it a shot.
ok its the 11th day since I started it, in one of the cloners im seeing about 30% of the clones with small white root nubs so something is happening there. In the other about 5% have bumps on the stem(not white ones). Strange that 1 cloner is doing better than the other and they are pretty much identical setups the ph/ppm and temps are the same. the funny thing is the cloner that is doing better has the lesser flow rate air pump 
fatality
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i get 100% success. I use a 6.5 quart storage container. i used a holesaw and cut out 14 sites on top. i bought a 2 outlet 30-40 gallon aquarium pump and it has 4 6" airstones hooked to it. i also have an aquarium heater in there, it stays 78f. one guy said distilled water, SHAME ON YOU.... go out and buy a case of aquafina (PURIFIED WATER) and use it. i almost think you might need a bigger airpump and more bubblestones. i dip my cuts in clonex right before i pop them in the cloner, 7 days almost like clockwork and i have 14 plants, always. 24/7 2foot floro FTW! i would post a pic of mine but the attachment manager is screwy for me ATM
There is plenty of bubbles though and the whole bottom of the lid is soaked and all cuttings are dripping so I think the air pump can handle it as the cloner with the least powerful air pump is the one that is rooting faster, ive 2x 12" air stones in each cloner,
I literally dont have a camera and my phone camera is total shit you wouldnt be able to see anything clearly
I have another air pump here that is a 120w air pump with 12 outlets, but Im afraid if i use it in such small containers it would literally tear any growth on the stems as I use it for 6x 10 gallon dwc containers and it gives great bubbles on all of those, but i think it would be too powerful for the cloners.