bubbleponic/aquaponic combo?

i'm kinda new to the whole growing thing and i just want to get some opinions on how well this set up would work. the set up would have a 29 gallon fish tank with about 50 to 100 goldfish. in the tank there would be a water pump lifting the water from the fish tank into a rubbermaid container and a drainage hose running back to the fish tank from the container so there is always circulation of the fish nutriated water. inside the rubermaid container are 2 10' air stones powered by a 2800cc air pump to oxygenize the water.

i was just wondering how effective this set up would be and if nutrients from the fish would be enough to grow 6 plants?

what should i improve on and what are your opinions on the set up?

BSIv2.0 said:

Are you serious?

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lol he doesn't want to grow weed. he wants to kill fish

yeah all that will do is make a mess, happy flushing...

kming said:

i'm kinda new to the whole growing thing and i just want to get some opinions on how well this set up would work. the set up would have a 29 gallon fish tank with about 50 to 100 goldfish. in the tank there would be a water pump lifting the water from the fish tank into a rubbermaid container and a drainage hose running back to the fish tank from the container so there is always circulation of the fish nutriated water. inside the rubermaid container are 2 10' air stones powered by a 2800cc air pump to oxygenize the water.

i was just wondering how effective this set up would be and if nutrients from the fish would be enough to grow 6 plants?

what should i improve on and what are your opinions on the set up?

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WOW YOU GUYS SHOULD DO SOME RESERACH. go search "fish water for plants"

plants love fish water. you benefit from it two ways.

1.Fish wastes have a lot of NitrAte and phosphates in them, which makes fish water a good source for those nutrients. Plants that fruit or bloom a lot really appreciate the extra phosphates.

2. The good thing is that Fish tank water is a great natural fertilizer. It's loaded with fish droppings and plants love the mix. I have heard it said before, Gold fish water is Gold for plants.

PLUS*****you save water..shit aint cheap anymore.


so yes kming that would actually be a good idea. give it a try and let us know whats up.

i agree ^^ i have this same exact idea in my head hears my planes leeme know what you think. i would make a led light not sure of all the specs.

i see a couple problems with a fish tank method.

1st. in DWC the the nutrient water is generally kept totally dark..to keep mold and other nasties from growing,and is preferably kept at 68F.

2nd. those fish would need to shit a ton like every other second to give enough fertilizer for a MJ plant,and i highly doubt fish crap has all the NPK ratios a plant needs to grow anything worth while.

if your dead set on trying it..then go for it..we wanna see pics of your (dead) plant when your done goofing around.

@dtischerd have you ever tried an aquaponics system?

They should have a dedicated forum for retards like this to post in so people serious about MMJ do not waste time reading horse shit like this. Anyone who believes this and is willing to try this, is already failing.

It does make me feel better about myself that we are above this ridiculous non-sense.

of course i haven't grown with aquaponics..this is the bubbleponics section.

i grow in RDWC.

most of the growers here have been growing for several yrs..so its safe to say we have adequate knowledge on growing.

when 99% of the posters here say your destined to fail..i would rethink your method.

but hey..its your seed and its your time that your wasting..not ours.

Aquaponics is massively successful in all sorts of crops, don't listen to the haters and naysayers in here. They have NO idea why they even think the method won't work. Proper research before putting a living organism in the system, proper follow-through, and proper follow-up. Let us know how it goes!

Aquaponics is a new(well, new to most of us) grow method that's becoming more and more popular. These systems work well for crops like tomatos, you don't need anything except whatever the fish produces, and of course fish food. The more you feed fish, the more fertilizer they produce, thats how you manage feeding, and of course # of fish as the base. When feed gets too high, you stop/reduce feeding fish. There are documentaries and companies dedicated in aquaponics if you need some insight. I heard about aquaponics first from a documentary "Aquaponics Made Easy". Dunno how well it does for MMJ plants though, never seen anyone try that, but the worse that could happen is a lower yield... no reason for it not to work at all. The type of fish you use could change a lot though, never heard of a gold fish system. These systems work better in a Ebb&Flow pumping water from a seperate well aerated fish tank to grow bed's in clay pellets, with an auto-siphon system to drain back. Pump on 24/7, very fast growth for veggies. Someone who has the time/money should give this a try for MMJ. Haters sound like my dad telling me hydro is unnatural and causes cancer.

Some people put extra fish in their aquaponics system and collect the shit with a filter and sell it/use it on other systems as fertilizer.

this is hard to achieve in just a small aquarium. if your aim is to do tests, it is a good idea. if your aim is to get most buds from your grow, then it will fail badly...

zem said:

this is hard to achieve in just a small aquarium. if your aim is to do tests, it is a good idea. if your aim is to get most buds from your grow, then it will fail badly...

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With 100 Fish in a 1000L tank if my memory is correct, the guy in the documentary had 3 grow beds full of different veggies, strawberries, etc., I guess with about 25-50 real fish(not gold fish) you could try growing 1-2 plants and see how it goes. This is something I would love to try one day, but not now. but you need different test kits to check the ammonia level in the water to see if you need to increase/reduce feeding fish because the good bacteria eat ammonia and turn it into fertilizer like nitrates and what not, then the plants eat the fertilizers(Which is bad for the fish) and returns cleaner water to the tank. It's all about balance, pretty much what happens in nature.

so your saying that aquaponics would not work at all? it would work with regular vegetables? @dtscherd

yeah i think it would work for sure i just want to find the best way to do it with a smaller aquarium. i was thinking like a dripping method, some thing like this saw on instagram. i was thinking the lower level would be a lettuce and small herbs and the top would be large plants like tomatoes and peppers. i think this would work well to because it is always moving the water. i would aslo have leds lighting the hole system.

For everyone posting in this thread, you are worse than the people that said you couldn't grow indoors in the '70's and with LED's in the 2000's. A simple search of the forums will show you a .8 gpw grow in aquaponics and he tells on his issues and nute lockout due to too high nitrates. https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/559989-flowering-aquaponics-revisited-8.html#post8414472 I have a 150 gallon aquaponics setup with only 12 goldfish and have excess nitrogen in my system. It does require a little extra iron and some cal/mag from time to time, but it does work well.

How does it work? This API test strip I have for my freshwater aquarium says 80ppm of nitrates would stress the fish. I can't imagine how 800ppm of npk etc would not kill the fish.

As the OP of the thread I linked stated, he culled his fish to have only those that where resistant to low PH and high Nitrates. I've controlled my nitrates with a combination of adding more green leafy vegetables and water changes. It is a small eco-system in and of itself. Once you get everything in the correct ratios and perimeters, it requires very little maintenance. It does take some time to get everything working together correctly, but for me that's half the fun.