Bud leaves Claw/burnt tips/ burn spots please help me

CODEE_420Grows

CODEE_420Grows

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I've posted a few times now but I'm still having issues here I've attached photos of my plants and information on the soil I'm using I really am at a loss for what is going on here as my two white widows that are in veg are doing absolutely fine. but as soon as the auto blueberry went into flower about a week In. I started to get burning spots. Clawing and burnt tips maybe the soil is just shit and is to hot I tried flushing it with like 5 liters of water but still no help. I've let the pots dry out at at 32% humidity and 28c they dry fast. I put the humidifier on sometimes to get it to about 60%. I was feeding miracle grow tomato feed 18-18-21 at the beginning but stopped before going into flower I'm really just trying to get a solid answer here on what is happening and how to fix it thanks everyone the pictures of the leaves are ones I've cut off from the bottom
 

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Here is the soil and ingredients
 

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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say, the leaves in the last pic came off of the lower portion of the plant, the plant will sometimes decide some of the lowers aren't needed and get rid of them if they aren't getting enough light. The last 4 pics before that, they look droopy from being flushed. And the first half of the pics look to be burns from either foliar feeding or splashing water when feeding...... I don't think you have anything to panic about, stay calm and observe your plant. It will tell you what's going on, if you pay attention. Make notes of everything, might seem redundant, but will save your ass over and over again. :peace:
 
CODEE_420Grows said:
I've posted a few times now but I'm still having issues here I've attached photos of my plants and information on the soil I'm using I really am at a loss for what is going on here as my two white widows that are in veg are doing absolutely fine. but as soon as the auto blueberry went into flower about a week In. I started to get burning spots. Clawing and burnt tips maybe the soil is just shit and is to hot I tried flushing it with like 5 liters of water but still no help. I've let the pots dry out at at 32% humidity and 28c they dry fast. I put the humidifier on sometimes to get it to about 60%. I was feeding miracle grow tomato feed 18-18-21 at the beginning but stopped before going into flower I'm really just trying to get a solid answer here on what is happening and how to fix it thanks everyone the pictures of the leaves are ones I've cut off from the bottom
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The mix is a good mix to use! Your biggest problem is the food you used! You don't give cannabis plants, especially autos, an 18-18-21 feed!!! You have a major nitrogen toxicity, and entering flowering, it couldn't be a worse time for that as it will set the grow back in a major way! Learn for next grow, the feed is way too strong, namely in nitrogen, for flower you can get away with doses of pk, but the nitrogen is too much, and the mix you have isn't empty either, i use the same one, just without the coco in it.
Forcing the pots to dry out and the 'flush' (5L's usually isn't a flush unless you're growing in half gallon pots) forced the plants to take up more of the excess nutes. I had it happen twice in the past, and too much nitrogen entering flowering killed it for both..one auto and one photo plant. The auto didn't flower properly at all and it was a lost cause, the photo did, but for it's size, the yield, and quality, were not near optimal!
 
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The mix is a good mix to use! Your biggest problem is the food you used! You don't give cannabis plants, especially autos, an 18-18-21 feed!!! You have a major nitrogen toxicity, and entering flowering, it couldn't be a worse time for that as it will set the grow back in a major way! Learn for next grow, the feed is way too strong, namely in nitrogen, for flower you can get away with doses of pk, but the nitrogen is too much, and the mix you have isn't empty either, i use the same one, just without the coco in it.
Forcing the pots to dry out and the 'flush' (5L's usually isn't a flush unless you're growing in half gallon pots) forced the plants to take up more of the excess nutes. I had it happen twice in the past, and too much nitrogen entering flowering killed it for both..one auto and one photo plant. The auto didn't flower properly at all and it was a lost cause, the photo did, but for it's size, the yield, and quality, were not near optimal!
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No more fucking miracle grow is what I got from what you said hahaha
 
CODEE_420Grows said:
No more fucking miracle grow is what I got from what you said hahaha
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Not at all..miracle grow is fine. I've used their nutes and soil and it grows perfectly fine! It's a complete myth that miracle grow is crap...it's crap for people who have no understanding of plant science and expect a plant to grow on its own with only water. The issue is the stength of the feed you used, whether miracle grow or any other company's nutes...a feed that strong, especially for Nitrogen, and add to it for an auto..yes, it's too strong. in the end, it makes no difference who the nute comes from...an npk of 18-18-21 is the same to the plant! It has no way to know what company it's from lol...plants treat compounds/ions, in the same manner!
 
Blitz35 said:
Not at all..miracle grow is fine. I've used their nutes and soil and it grows perfectly fine! It's a complete myth that miracle grow is crap...it's crap for people who have no understanding of plant science and expect a plant to grow on its own with only water. The issue is the stength of the feed you used, whether miracle grow or any other company's nutes...a feed that strong, especially for Nitrogen, and add to it for an auto..yes, it's too strong. in the end, it makes no difference who the nute comes from...an npk of 18-18-21 is the same to the plant! It has no way to know what company it's from lol...plants treat compounds/ions, in the same manner!
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This is gonna be my first and last auto to many problems one day it's happy next day it acts like it's over watered and droopy and limp
 
CODEE_420Grows said:
This is gonna be my first and last auto to many problems one day it's happy next day it acts like it's over watered and droopy and limp
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I had the same experience, for the most part with them, as well, not to mention potency. I'd get depressed too seeing them droop, or look like a bad haircut, then the smaller bud sites..one i got it to 4 oz's! blue mammoth, but was it ever weak!!! lol Mephisto's were the best i had, one for potency, the other for flavor, but yields were smaller, and the alien vs triangles really grow stretched out!
 
Blitz35 said:
I had the same experience, for the most part with them, as well, not to mention potency. I'd get depressed too seeing them droop, or look like a bad haircut, then the smaller bud sites..one i got it to 4 oz's! blue mammoth, but was it ever weak!!! lol Mephisto's were the best i had, one for potency, the other for flavor, but yields were smaller, and the alien vs triangles really grow stretched out!
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As from what I see so far seem like it's gonna be weak as fuck no smell as of yet looks really airy here a pic I just took
 

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Too much nitrogen will do that. With only a 4 week flower on average, it has little time to produce, and issues like excess nitrogen, pretty much the number 1 killer in regards to elements for inhibiting flowering, are hard to solve in time. Water uptake is also reduced, so you won't get proper transpiration, so less 'plant' smells.
 
Blitz35 said:
Too much nitrogen will do that. With only a 4 week flower on average, it has little time to produce, and issues like excess nitrogen, pretty much the number 1 killer in regards to elements for inhibiting flowering, are hard to solve in time. Water uptake is also reduced, so you won't get proper transpiration, so less 'plant' smells.
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So from everything I learned here I should keep my white widows in veg till all the excess nitrogen from the miracle grow is used up because nitrogen is a killer for flowering but not during veg (as I learned for the blueberry) also im in week 2 of flower right now
 
CODEE_420Grows said:
So from everything I learned here I should keep my white widows in veg till all the excess nitrogen from the miracle grow is used up because nitrogen is a killer for flowering but not during veg (as I learned for the blueberry) also im in week 2 of flower right now
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When entering flowering, you ideally want all problems solved so flowering goes well. With auto's you have no choice. For the regulars, i'd suggest flushing the soil. Check the fertilizer, and if most is in the form of nitrates, then flushing with water will get rid of it easily, but what's in the plant will be as is. Wait for new growth to look healthy and go from there..the claws won't go away.
 
Turns out this piece of shit wanted more water even tho the soil was wet ... ??? So I added water and she perked back up
 

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