Buds are "fluffy" what did I do wrong??? Pics included
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ScarletFire
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This might be obvious, but denser buds comes from finding the optimal balance of lights, ferts, temp, humidity, co2, and yes, molasses or anything else you want to add, for the strain you are growing in the space you have to grow it in. That's what makes this so much fun. There are no right answers, only more questions.
coast2coast
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lets take this down to a simpler level, his buds arent getting dense... since its not our plant and we cant physically inspect it we can just make the following suggestions...
- HID lighting (most importantly HPS for flowering)
- Sugars and carbs (be it from Commercial Additives or good old molasses)
- Air circulation and temp control
- Giving the plants some room so they arent crowded
- Co2
- Strain related
well if that doesnt solve your "fluffiness" its still good practice for growing anyways so might as well do it! (or as much of it as you can
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- HID lighting (most importantly HPS for flowering)
- Sugars and carbs (be it from Commercial Additives or good old molasses)
- Air circulation and temp control
- Giving the plants some room so they arent crowded
- Co2
- Strain related
well if that doesnt solve your "fluffiness" its still good practice for growing anyways so might as well do it! (or as much of it as you can
)
livinthadream
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Hps lighting does. Hps lighting does....great nutes do... Great nutes do...proper flowering period do....proper flowering period do
livinthadream
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oh...plants can be crowded and greatness can still be archieved!
RavenMochi
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I'm using 4 4ft T8 fluro's now, but I've been thinking alot about the hps lighting...
Total Head
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do it. i have a 6 tube 48'' t5 fixture and the difference was night and day. i use it just for veg now. if you are using t8 tubes it's really no comparison. just figure out a vent situation and hid lights will get you so much more.
RavenMochi
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Total Head, I've been going through a short rider journal thats was using a 400w hps on 4 plants, and mine look the same at their given point, and I'm only using 128 w worth of T8's with twice as many plants....
I think alot of it has to do with how you grow it, right now I'm waiting for them to finish they're branches they're making now and then I'm putting up a sog net becuase they're several days into flowering, and 8 of them are female out of 10. as long as you keep the canopy even, t8's seem to work fine. 3000k gives them the spectrum they need for flowering, which is what I'm using now. wanted 2700, but the store over here doesn't carry them...
I think alot of it has to do with how you grow it, right now I'm waiting for them to finish they're branches they're making now and then I'm putting up a sog net becuase they're several days into flowering, and 8 of them are female out of 10. as long as you keep the canopy even, t8's seem to work fine. 3000k gives them the spectrum they need for flowering, which is what I'm using now. wanted 2700, but the store over here doesn't carry them...
i8urbabi
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ive heard from pro's that 600w HPS is pretty much gonna get you a cola that you can grasp in your hand. I was told 400w hps minimum for those large dense buds you and others dream of growing. while 600w being the best start to a drooling size bud. But HID lighting or outdoors will give you gold.
RavenMochi
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I've heard alot of people say that, but then they're quite a few people on this forum that have done that with cfl's. Like I said, i know what I saw, and my plants were the same size has his plants at the same time stamp...if I was trying to grow a tree, you'd be right, fluro's won't reach past the top 2-3 inches which is why they need to be an inch or a shy less, but for a sog in which your keeping an open canopy, again, I'm not seeing the difference other than peoples say so. say so doesn't make much for fact.
nog
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ive had loads of sativas with dense buds. like the guys said all the nutes and stuff in the world won't improve bud quality if you have insufficient light, you want at least 400 HPS per square metre, you should get about 0.5 grams per wat average, if you get 1.0 gram per watt you should contact me to let me know how!!!!!
GoRealA
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I had this same issue a while ago. I agree with most of the posters that its the intensity of the light you are use. It is almost impossible to tell density by looking at photo of a bud. A big plant or bud does not mean it has dense buds. Although it is possible to have decent bud grown with floros + experience. lots of factors play a role in density but the main factor is light intesity. example denser buds at top of plant cause light is more intense there. my .02
nothing against fluoro's, BUT
please just trust that the One day (and you will do it eventually) that you get an HPS you will NEVER EVER look back.
you will be blown away. You WILL say things like "this was the best grow investment ever, dollar for dollar"
dirtsurfr
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I'm on my first grow, I started out with 2 400watt HPS.
My son did his with fluoros so dad has to do better so...
We'll see here in about 11 weeks who has better.
I'm growing the same as him except I'm doing 18-6 and
he did 24-7 everything else notes ect. will be the same.
My son did his with fluoros so dad has to do better so...
We'll see here in about 11 weeks who has better.
I'm growing the same as him except I'm doing 18-6 and
he did 24-7 everything else notes ect. will be the same.
dirtsurfr
Well-Known Member
I'm on my first grow, I started out with 2 400watt HPS.
My son did his with fluoros so dad has to do better so...
We'll see here in about 11-12 weeks who has better.
I'm growing the same as him except I'm doing 18-6 and
he did 24-7 everything else nutes ect. will be the same.
12 weeks to harves 6th. week H.S.
11 weeks to harves 7th. week H.S.
Tim 
My son did his with fluoros so dad has to do better so...
We'll see here in about 11-12 weeks who has better.
I'm growing the same as him except I'm doing 18-6 and
he did 24-7 everything else nutes ect. will be the same.
12 weeks to harves 6th. week H.S.
11 weeks to harves 7th. week H.S.
Tim 
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fluffy/airy nugs are 90 percent of the time because of lack of lighting. Alot of cfl growers see fluffy nugs because they just dont have enough lumens. hps/mh gives you nice more compact calyx development. also yes it depends on the plant but from what i can see its prob because of your light.
