Buds from plants that had rot - aren’t the spores everywhere?

DeadHeadX

DeadHeadX

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This topic came up in a recent conversation with friends who also grow in these parts (New England), which have been cold and wet all summer. We all had mold issues with our outdoor grows.

At times when cutting away infected areas, I could see the spores dissipate into the air, certainly landing on the nearby, but otherwise unaffected buds. In theory, the spores must be all over in the outside world, or at least in the vicinity of the rot.

Question: any concerns with the otherwise healthy plant matter that almost certainly has spores but not actually mold growth?

Fwiw, I have dried and am currently curing and sampling some of the plant I’m referring to. Lost over 50% to rot, but the stuff that remains is quite nice. And surely loaded with inactivated spores. Thoughts or concerns?
 
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joe_croupier

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Prevention is better than cure.

There's black and white mold in the air everywhere, indoors you only need a small air flow to stop the spores from settling, even just a fan from a newspaper twice a day will stop the spores from settling, outdoors i guess the wind will help or get a big ass fan and fan the hell outta them just to get rid of the ones that you think are there.

Hope this helps buddy.


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mandocat

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Spores are everywhere outdoors, its only when conditions become favorable that we see mold. I'm sure most of us have smoked a lot of spores in our life, I suspect that is different than smoking the actual mold.
 
secretmicrogrow420

secretmicrogrow420

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i have been the victim of budrot! let me start off by saying budrot starts within the plant and works its way out and google says it is a type of mold... so the inside of your plant is molded....... if your plant had rot throw everything away your health is more important than getting stoned.
 
Kerowacked

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When its dry break a couple buds up under a desk lamp, spores float around, trichs don’t. Scope the buds for cotton webs or worse, cottonballs. Moldy pot will hurt you, look up aspergillosis.
 
DeadHeadX

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Thanks for the input. I could easily ditch mine, as I am at the end of an indoor run. But my speculation is also that a good percentage of bud being harvested outdoors in this area must at least have some spores. Must be really common.
 
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bluegill

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I'm an amateur mycologist. Started growing cubensis strains, but I progressed onto cloning gourmet and medicinal strains, and then I built a small lab because I like growing yeasts (homebrew beer), molds, and all kinds of fungi on petri dishes. Here's an article you should read about bud rot.

What others have said about this is right; bud rot is a plant that has a fungal infection from bud to root. As the plant matures, so does the fungus. The fungus will produce sclerotia in the root zone when it reaches maturity. Also, this is one of the fungi that damps off seedlings. I always soak my seeds in H202 1% for 24 hours before germinating and I still get contaminations. I also soak germinated seeds in the same strength solution before potting them, too. I've never done outdoor grows, but for indoor... throughout the grow you will want to make sure you have adequate airflow, and you can improve the air quality in the tent by filtering the intake end. You don't necessarily have to use a charcoal filter, but at least use a filter with a MERV rating of 11 or higher. The other concern is with humidity... misting your plants will make them prone to all kinds of fungi contamination. Any signs of leaf spotting or damage on the leaves is a penetration point for fungus, so you will want to actively prune the plant so that it doesn't spread.

If you're growing outdoor, you'll want to train the plants so that there is good airflow and prune areas where moisture collects. You don't want leaves touching each other, and you don't want plants coming into contact with each other.
 
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joe_croupier

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Buy an out door gazebo mate, The rot is because of wet trapped inside the buds and the waters gone stagnant no air and rots.

No rain no rot i guess depends on the humidity levels
 
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bluegill

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As for smoking rotten buds... you can develop nodules in your lungs from mold exposure and fungal infections, but Botrytis cinerea is relatively harmless to humans. I wouldn't make a habit of smoking them, but the unburned butane you inhale from your bong rips is likely doing more damage.

Here's a wikipedia article. It can give you pneumonia like symptoms, but it's not awfully toxic like some other molds.
 
joe_croupier

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bluegill said:
bud rot is a plant that has a fungal infection from bud to root. As the plant matures, so does the fungus
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I had a plant once out of 20 plants same strain same feed etc that just died over night with some horrible infection, no idea what it was but i couldn't bring it back to life. The leaves went all brown and drooped over night !! it was insane how fast it happened.


Still no idea what it was but it no chance, over night and fast was the confusing part, so fast.
 
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bluegill

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joe_croupier said:
I had a plant once out of 20 plants same strain same feed etc that just died over night with some horrible infection, no idea what it was but i couldn't bring it back to life. The leaves went all brown and drooped over night !! it was insane how fast it happened.


Still no idea what it was but it no chance, over night and fast was the confusing part, so fast.
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I have one that started leaf spotting. Most of the spotting happened overnight, and the plant took a week to recover. It's still alive, but has stunted growth. Luckily, the other plants are very healthy. Might just be weak genetics!
 
joe_croupier

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bluegill said:
I have one that started leaf spotting. Most of the spotting happened overnight, and the plant took a week to recover. It's still alive, but has stunted growth. Luckily, the other plants are very healthy. Might just be weak genetics!
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"Might just be weak genetics!"
Yea 1 outta 20 isn't bad, even humans are born deformed

Weird thing about mine was nothing, no signs, no deficiency nothing, it just went over night.


She died in my arms man :(
 
DeadHeadX

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amneziaHaze said:
if you dried it good you should have no problems.spores are almost allways somewhere in the air.
but if you didnt dry it they could colonize and take over the bud then they are really dangerous
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Honestly, this was my basic thought. If everyone around here tossed every plant that had a touch of rot, there would be a pot drought.

Personally, my main stash comes from my indoor grow, so I’m not concerned, but I also figure the vast majority of the outdoor weed in these parts has some spores but is still being widely consumed.
 
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mandocat

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DeadHeadX said:
Honestly, this was my basic thought. If everyone around here tossed every plant that had a touch of rot, there were be a pot drought.

Personally, my main stash comes from my indoor grow, so I’m not concerned, but I also figure the vast majority of the outdoor weed in these parts has some spores but is still being widely consumed.
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And has been consumed in the 49 years I have been smoking. All there was for decades was out door weed. Historically, for millennia! Someone texting while driving is way more likely to harm me than outdoor sun grown cannabis, in my opinion!
 
amneziaHaze

amneziaHaze

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DeadHeadX said:
Honestly, this was my basic thought. If everyone around here tossed every plant that had a touch of rot, there would be a pot drought.

Personally, my main stash comes from my indoor grow, so I’m not concerned, but I also figure the vast majority of the outdoor weed in these parts has some spores but is still being widely consumed.
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my last grow my indica got infected and i had to trow away half the plant then a week later my sativa started getting affected soo i had to trow away some of it.later i dried it all some jars didnt close corectly and got super dry some jars where closed too soon and where little bit wet, those jars got mold on them and i had to trow them away. rest that was dry is okej to smoke.i still check them with my microscope and there is no sign of any nets after almost a year of storage.

soo as long as you dry it properly you should be safe
 
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