Building single-plant growbox, I want your opinions!

Fractus

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You are right, they are from the tiny leaves immediately beside the bud. I couldnt get the lens close enough to the buds because of the pistils lol. I should get a real scope, this just made it so I didn't have to go get one right this minute. Next time I'm out I will probably pick one up. I'm glad to see that she isn't ready yet though because I wanted her to get much bigger before harvesting. I bet I can pull 4 ounces off of her (dry weight) by the time I harvest. :P Feel free to make guesses and we'll see how close you are when it's done and dry :P
 

bigjesse1922

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You are right, they are from the tiny leaves immediately beside the bud. I couldnt get the lens close enough to the buds because of the pistils lol. I should get a real scope, this just made it so I didn't have to go get one right this minute. Next time I'm out I will probably pick one up. I'm glad to see that she isn't ready yet though because I wanted her to get much bigger before harvesting. I bet I can pull 4 ounces off of her (dry weight) by the time I harvest. :P Feel free to make guesses and we'll see how close you are when it's done and dry :P
4 z's is a real stretch....

How much dirt do you have in there again?

And how tall is she?
 

Fractus

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The plant stands 10.5 inches above the dirt, I just did the math, LxWxH of the soil alone, and I was surprised to find out there is 576 cubic inches in there, so 2.5 gallons of soil. (between 1/4 and 1/3 perlite).
I know 4oz seems optimistic but here are a few numbers to consider. Her average branch length is 8 inches from the stem outwards and they curve up at the tip. There are 12 main branches, each one has between 4 and 8 budsites that are all looking to be at least a gram and growing straight up off the horizontal branch. The ends of each branch (where it curves upward) is a cola of it's own. They are the biggest buds of the plant so far. Here's a classic lighter pic to put things in perspective.

 

Fractus

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The above numbers were rough estimates of what I saw, but I actually was curious so I counted everything she has. These are my results:

There are 7 nodes with two branches growing on opposite sides of each. The numbers correspond to how many budsites are located on that specific branch, in brackets are how many of those budsites are growing straight up on individual sub-branches and resemble colas, on each node counting up from the bottom. (I excluded smaller budsites that I would consider to be less than a gram)

Node___Branch 1___Branch 2
1------------4 (1)------------4 (1)
2------------7 (1)-----------10 (2)
3------------8 (1)------------8 (2)
4------------5 (1)------------6 (2)
5------------6 (5)------------7 (4)
6------------5 (4)------------5 (4)
7------------4 (4)------------6 (5)
Total______83 (37)____

So there are 83 budsites that I can see, that are worth at least a gram (I think, unless it shrinks a lot when you dry it, I don't really know because I never harvested before lmao, I'm comparing it to the size of a 1 gram dry bud ) And 37 of those 83 are colas that are significantly bigger than the rest of the budsites, fat ones growing like a cone straight up. Anyway, lets assume every worthy budsite amounts to one single gram, I pull 83 grams off of it, that is 3 ounces already. I don't think 4 ounces is out of reach. I'm kinda expecting more to be honest..
 

GypsyBush

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Sorry bro... you will be LUCKY to get 1 oz WET...

Right now... I would guess a 8th... MAYBE 1/4 IF everything keeps going PERFECT...

A few hot days.. or a slight nute burn and you are off the throne...

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Sorry... there is NO WAY IN HELL you would get 4oz dried from this plant even if it was 4 times it's size....

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Sorry Fractus.. but you know I do not bullshit you...

you can disagree with me if you want... but I will just see you at harvest time...:razz:
 

GypsyBush

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I don't think 4 ounces is out of reach. I'm kinda expecting more to be honest..

Hahaha...

You get 4 oz out of there ans I WILL GIVE YOU 4 oz out of my op to match...

Dude... wake up...:lol:

Look around RIU at some of the 4 oz plants...:lol: you might a more realistic idea...:lol::clap:... 4 ozs...:that's a good one..:clap:

at least you're optimistic...:lol::clap:

hope you take disappointment well too...:razz:
 

Fractus

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Yeah I put enough pictures up that you should be able to tell on some level approximately what my potential yield is, so if you say it's crazy to expect 4 then I trust you for it lol. I know you've seen your share of plants and harvested them. I could beat a quarter right now though NO DOUBT, i have to argue a little because it's my nature and because of the retarded mass that it has beneath what you can see in any of my pictures
 

Fractus

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For an experiment Gypsy, I came into this expecting disappointment. Of course I can handle it :P If it comes to that. Or maybe I will just surprise you lol.
 

GypsyBush

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Dude... 4 ozs dry is A POUND WET...:lol:

Sorry bro...

I got people guessing that much for MY girls...

No way.. no how...:roll:
 

GypsyBush

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For an experiment Gypsy, I came into this expecting disappointment. Of course I can handle it :P If it comes to that. Or maybe I will just surprise you lol.

I honestly hope you make me EAT MY WORDS...

I hope you get 10 POUNDS...

But I am just being realistic... I know what a 1 gram bud looks like on a plant... and you do not have 80+ of them... ;-)
 

Fractus

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Well if that's the case then I'll aim to beat an ounce. My goal when I started this was to hit a half an ounce but I'm confident that if I harvested it right now I would have more than that. That's only 14 grams...
 

Fractus

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Actually man, is there any chance you have a pic of a one gram bud that I could compare to? It would give me a better estimate of what to expect.
 

tkjoe

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really cool grow. i have a 1 plant grow box too, but i made mine alittle bigger! i had origionally thought of doing something like you did. but then settled for the pizza boxes int he garage. haha my grow has changed so much. check it out if ya like!!

im hopin ya get atleast an OZ out of it! that woul dbe sweet man!
 

Fractus

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Yeah wow, this guy's plant is a lot bigger than mine and this guy is calling it 2 ounces:
https://www.rollitup.org/outdoor-growing/237468-how-does-she-look.html

Although mine is much more filled out and solid than his.
A Canadian Loonie is one inch in diameter, and the majority of my buds are bigger than that, how much % should I expect it to shrink down after drying? If you said 4 ounces requires a pound wet, then I suppose it must be around 75% lighter.

I am aware that I probably shouldnt be shoving loonies in between buds but I thought this one time it was for a good cause lol. I counted 37 buds like the two you see here and some are twice as big on the tips of the lower branches. The rest of the 83 buds are slightly smaller than what you see here. I'm not exaggerating when I say 83, I counted them one by one and wrote it down as I counted on each branch. Gypsy, is it unlikely that by the time I harvest, my buds will be 1 gram dry?
 

BlessAmerica

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Hey Fractus,

My first time on RIU in 2 months and your thread caught my attention. It looks like your doing pretty good man! I can always spot a newbie because we all (or so it seems) start this way ( a super small box sadly trying to be stealth with cables and light leaking out). A few years ago I wanted something stealth in my apt, so I used rubbermaid totes (it glowed like ET's finger). It worked, but I have long since upgraded, and I suggest you do the same. Here is my pitch.

Go to Lowes or Home Depot (or whatever conglomerate hardware store Mountie men go to up there), and buy yourself 2 2"X4"s and 3 3'X7'X8mm doorskins (doorskin is just thin plywood) total cost will be around $20-$25 US. If you don't own a saw, hammer and nails (I prefer screws and drill) then you will have to throw that into your final budget. Plot out a frame with the 2X4s to be a total of 3' wide X 2' deep X 4' high, then cut the doorskin to fit, and on the front cut out a square, keep the cut part and frame it using 3/4"X4" and hinge it to the box. You now have a grow box big enough for 4 semi-full size plants, that cost you less than $35, and should take about 6 hours to complete.

I've been using mine now for years (now houses non-MJ plants), I installed two 4" pc fans one high for exhaust and one low for intake, I have 6 2' T5s in 6500k and 2400k, and several 300w CFLs (those things are monsters). If you go through my threads you will come across it. Im sure you didn't care to get all this, but I think it would help in the long run. And it looks alot less conspicous than the styrofoam box with electricity running to it. As a side note I have also seen people convert old dressers into the same thing by removing the drawers and permenently attaching them to a front that secretly comes off, this is my ultimate goal.

One last thing, your plants are fine, running the normal coarse. You can expect much of the plant to look like garbage in these final weeks as it is naturally dying and using its stored nutes (the leafs) to supply the maturing flowers. Yes the pistils will turn orange then red. Some will completly disappear, but the plant will have a small second wind and continue the coarse. Forget what the inexperianced and ignorant say, ONLY harvest when the TRICOMES are cloudy and/or amber.

Good luck with your endevours.

-BlessAmerica
 

littlegrower2004

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fractus- just dont worry about how much your going to get in the end. just enjoy the stage of flower that you are and start preparing for your next grow. in the long run youll be happier to be surprised by more bud than expected. dont count your berries before there in your basket!!
 

Fractus

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I'm still in school though, I won't be able to spend cash building a new box until I get a job lol. But my next box is going to be completely home made and creative but I plan on spending a lot on it. I'm going to draw blueprints and stuff before starting and make sure everything is perfect haha.
 

Fractus

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But thanks for the tips. And yeah I don't need to keep count of yield. That's not even the coolest part. I'm just in awe of how fast it grows over night, I just watch her as she grows and I'm learning a ton. But it would be cool to have a nice yield too so I have plenty to share with my friends lol. YehYeh! Bigjesse with the highest bid so far. Trust me I'll do my homework on cutting and drying before I do anything. I hope to be having steady conversation with someone on here while I do it in case I have some specific questions.
 
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