Bulk trim to oil

kg707

Active Member
Hey guys, I've snagged about 400 lbs of trim and I'm wondering what you think the best way to turn it into oil is. I was debating doing ten lbs at once of QWISO. Is there a more practical way.

Also is anyone familiar with super critical extractions? I was debating getting the 5000 psi 20l with the 3 modules so I could run 36lbs at a time. But this would run 170g roughly. Does anyone have one or similar in design? trying to find the yield since the super critical boasts increases output.
 

vacpurge

New Member
Hey guys, I've snagged about 400 lbs of trim and I'm wondering what you think the best way to turn it into oil is. I was debating doing ten lbs at once of QWISO. Is there a more practical way.

Also is anyone familiar with super critical extractions? I was debating getting the 5000 psi 20l with the 3 modules so I could run 36lbs at a time. But this would run 170g roughly. Does anyone have one or similar in design? trying to find the yield since the super critical boasts increases output.

400 lbs?? bullshit, lets see some pics.


yes, oilmkr420 is our local expert on super critical extractions, give him a PM and hell teach you a thing or two alright.....pffftttt just kidding. sorry I couldnt help it, hes a complete moron and no doubt he will comment in this thread since you mentioned it, but not give the tiniest bit of info on it.

fadedawg would be the best guy to talk to. if youre dealing in 400lb quantities, money shouldnt be an option to buy a full automated system that has 0 solvent loss. refill the chamber and run it again. 400 lbs is a lot to process either way, if you even got that much!
 

kg707

Active Member
I'll throw up a pic this sat when I fly out and head up to humboldt. Light deps and early harvests are in so that means $50 per full of trim :-) my only issue with a full automated system like the link I posted was how I'm going to claim to have 160g+. Was just going to get a few friends, open an llc, and blow the shit out of some trim. The downside is that the one I posted only can do 36 lbs at a rate of 20-24 hours. So that's non stop purging for roughly 11-12 days. With QWISO, I can do as big of a batch as I want, it's just pulling x amount of trim out of the alcohol within 30 seconds. As far as the super critical goes, the 5000 psi claims more of a yield but I haven't found the information to back it up. I emailed the founder of apeks, Andy, in hopes of getting an answer since medical production of hash oil is listed as an option for his product. Will update when I hear something.
 

Twitch

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hell yea it is oilmkr420 completely dis-regarded the shit talking and started talking about more bull shit.
 

SaybianTv

Active Member
im just putting my brains to 400 pounds of trim and thinking 12 days work is a really great 12 days work since your speaking in volumes that would be an oilmaker's yearly throughput. Is there any quality standards or is the goal just convert it down before it goes manky? Im asking about quality just because it seems like money is no object yet your jumping all over the methodology map with no concern for the results. Im just saying 50 pounds of c02 oil may not be marketable if that method of making oil has a bad reputation for quality. I've seen the video's where Humbolt county types have wheel barrel's of hash they can't get rid because bubble went out when bho came in. I'm not knocking anything just chewing on your problem in my brain hoping it's my problem one day. I just keep thinking of the string of vac chamber's lined up for days on end, but i could see whole 1 pound slabs getting overcooked and just ending up sidelined for another 1 pound slab. Who's gunna scrape all that oil? his wrist better be like the hulk.
 

BluJayz

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It's like Breaking Bad; you go away for a few days come back with millions... I like it. bongsmilie
 

vacpurge

New Member
I dont think its oilmkr, this guys been here since july 2012 and talks differently. the fact that he even mentioned QWISO not only makes me think its not oilmkr, but it makes me cringe.

maybe ive just never seen good ISO oil, but I absolutely hate it and everything about ISO.

a 400lb ISO oil batch sounds like a very bad idea.

id take the 12-14 days off and run it. fuck it. or take your time and turn it into a 30 day project... I mean youve got 180,000 grams. even an an ultra low return rate of 5% you are producing 9000 grams of oil. 20 lbs of oil. I dont think all the memories from ever member on this forum all added up together has ever seen 20 lbs of honey oil!!!!!!

9000 grams at an average of 30$... hell well say 10$ a gram!!! same as bud. thats 90,000$ or up to 270,000$... definitely worth taking the 14, or 30 days to run non stop and/or hire help. especially if the trim is only costing 20,000$

those are some sick numbers. I hope this is all true.. would be very cool to see but I wont believe it will I see it.


also, I volunteer to scrape all that oil!!! a little heat does wonders, my fav thing is scraping oil up.. mmmmmmmm
 

kg707

Active Member
Quality has to be there in order for me to off the product for as much as I am. With QWISO, you can let the alcohol fully evaporate so there's no purging necessary.

http://forum.grasscity.com/harvesting-processing-medical-marijuana/374856-osgs-golden-goodness-isomerized-frozen-hash-oil-crystals.html

Also found this:
http://www.theweedblog.com/how-to-make-full-cannabis-oil-extract/

If I didn't go the expensive route, I was just gonna chop up and do 10-20 lbs at a time. I wasn't sure of the ending product; looked a little green to me, but it could be a dark dark red since it was a full qp in the mason jar.

http://www.apekssupercritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Pricelist-8-15-13.pdf
 

kg707

Active Member
Ideally, id wholesale for 8g per full if the quality is there to match. Everything out my way is butane ridden and filled with chlorophyll for pretty unreasonable rates.
 

BluJayz

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Ideally, id wholesale for 8g per full if the quality is there to match. Everything out my way is butane ridden and filled with chlorophyll for pretty unreasonable rates.
That's because it's easier. ISO takes more work but can have a better product, are you going to be able to freeze the 400lbs (without air) before you run it?

If you wash it with ethanol after you still need heat or vacuum. I'm not knocking it just adding thoughts.
 

kg707

Active Member
Thoughts are why I posted this so they're much appreciated. I encourage it.

I'd be using 91% ISO. I've read varying arguments over the higher the percent, the more chlorophyll is extracted over a quicker time frame; but for the most part I've found anywhere from 20-30 seconds of contact with the alcohol is a good extraction of thc without too much chlorophyll being extracted. I can always adjust my times if I see too much chlorophyll taken out. Ideally, I'd have it on a low heat and then as og's link said heat it in an oven for 15-20 minutes. Mind you, I wouldn't be doing all 400 at once. I have a pretty big freezer so id be throwing 30-40 lbs in at a time, and only extracting in 10-20 lb increments. That way there isn't too much congestion with the heating and freezing.
 

vacpurge

New Member
personally, id buy a tamisium set up or a terpinator style set up and just do smaller runs all damn day long for a month. maybe hire a good buddy to help. if made properly and/or winterized, here wouldnt be a single spec of solvent remaining, nor would there be any cholrophyl or plant waxes. you would basically have a chunk of shatter the size of a semi tire.

have you visited this site yet?

http://skunkpharmresearch.com/projects/

$140,000 for that large unit with the addons and a compressor??! fucking insane, I dont care how complicated it is, for that kind of money its worth taking 6 months off your life and make your own for 40,000$ or less.
 

kg707

Active Member
Putting all your eggs in one basket, or box, and having the postal service screw you blew away all my plans. Back at it this year with a lot more patience and stash set aside 😄
 

kg707

Active Member
I'll be doing a trial run of just two zips of nug to see the turn out tomorrow. I'll post up pics of the process.
 
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