!!!!Bush Set Up 911!!!!!

ViRedd said:
Hey Med ...

Sometimes you can really be funny. Like when you just bashed Florida Girl for believing everything the government tells her. Hahaha! Good one. :lol:

But wait ... aren't you the one who firmly believes, in spite the mountians of evidence to the contrary, the government when they say: "I'm from the government and I'm here to help you?" :bigjoint:

Vi
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Will you ever grow the fuck up? When have I ever suggested I believe anything the government says? Oh you mean because I accept the SS that I paid into for 50+ years, or that I think single payer medical (Not for profit) may be a good Idea. BTW, I just saw a thing on the tube that said there were 16 gunshots fired in the RFK assassination, what say you?
 
medicineman said:
Are you for real? You believe everything the government tells /quote]


No .... I certainly don't believe everything they tell me..... but I also don't blindly believe everything is a conspiracy or government cover up either.

Believe what you want.... I'll believe what I want. :peace:
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Florida Girl said:
medicineman said:
Are you for real? You believe everything the government tells /quote]


No .... I certainly don't believe everything they tell me..... but I also don't blindly believe everything is a conspiracy or government cover up either.

Believe what you want.... I'll believe what I want. :peace:
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OK, I guess you really don't like to argue. That's fine. Nothing Personal, I reserve that for a select few. But, come on, you really like Bush and john McCain, right?
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medicineman said:
Will you ever grow the fuck up? When have I ever suggested I believe anything the government says? Oh you mean because I accept the SS that I paid into for 50+ years, or that I think single payer medical (Not for profit) may be a good Idea. BTW, I just saw a thing on the tube that said there were 16 gunshots fired in the RFK assassination, what say you?
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1. You still believe, even after the Katrina failure, The failed War on Drugs, The failed War on Poverty, and the miniscule 1% interest you've earned on the money you had confiscated from your paycheck (SS) over those 50+ years ... that the government is here to help you/us? Now, that's funny! :mrgreen:

Government is power, pure and simple. This is what the Founders understood. That's why the intent of the Constitution is to chain the powers of the federal government and to give the powers to the states.

2. On the JFK assassination ... I saw the event on TV news the same day it happened. I actually watched Jack Ruby off Oswald on live TV. I saw the McGruder film. I watched the Oliver Stone film. After all of that, I still believe that Harvey Oswald was the lone gunman.

As Florida Girl said ... to date, no one has proved other wise.

Vi
 
ViRedd said:
That's why the intent of the Constitution is to chain the powers of the federal government and to give the powers to the states.
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I'll toke to that. I'm not sure if everyone in the gov wants to hurt us though. They tend to do things with some good intentions, some not so good. Then we end up suffering from the unintentional effects caused by the act.
 
Sprouts said:
I'll toke to that. I'm not sure if everyone in the gov wants to hurt us though. They tend to do things with some good intentions, some not so good. Then we end up suffering from the unintentional effects caused by the act.
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Exactly ... and well put. Its the unintentional consequenses of the "Do Gooders" that have eroded our liberties and our freedoms. Take the 16th Amendment (income tax) for example. In the beginning, it was intended to transfer a small amount of wealth from the top 1% of the earners, to pay for government handouts to the poor. Now, its evolved into a freakin' slave tax and the private sector ponies up over 400 BILLION each year just to comply with the IRS code. And tht's before any income taxes are paid. Bah! Humbug! I mean, that's almost a half trillion dollars extracted from the private sector that could be used for capital improvements and job creation.

Vi
 
medicineman said:
So, are you going to believe that Iran started the next war also?
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this might just be hearsay, but i heard we're all ready at war with iran, but its not official or something.... it was in a different thread that i was reading, i could get the quote if it would help.

also, notice how the guy that was friends with one of the rockafellas, stated this on his phone conversation. let me find the exact spot on the movie. ill brb.

Zeitgeist - The Movie
 
mexiblunt said:
I actually think that quote about war with iran was a medman quote?
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ill get the other persons quote if i can find the thread. brb

We TaRdED said:
this might just be hearsay, but i heard we're all ready at war with iran, but its not official or something.... it was in a different thread that i was reading, i could get the quote if it would help.

also, notice how the guy that was friends with one of the rockafellas, stated this on his phone conversation. let me find the exact spot on the movie. ill brb.

Zeitgeist - The Movie
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ok start watching at 148mins Zeitgeist - The Movie

it talks about the foreshadowing about iran.
 
mexiblunt said:
I actually think that quote about war with iran was a medman quote?
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this is for you mexi, i high lightened the key words from the quote.


mokety said:
mainstream media is nothing but cover up a propaganda tool of the so-call gov. to dump on us things that they wanted us to know and trying to mend the way we think...
1st example : the presidential campaign they said we decide but they r is the one to decide Ron Paul still in the races but they just announced 3 candidates on Republican side that is McCain, Rommey, Huckabee. They totally ignore the only one candidate got support everywhere have real people donate and the most donation in history of politics.. It's very sad how we all heading down hill from economy to foreign policy and nobody realize it !!!
2nd do mainstream media tell us how much we in debt? that we already at war with Iran? that our money currency is about to worth nothing? important stuff like this thay dont say much at all but stupid crap like Brit. go to hospital again make headlines....
Dont believe what they told you but seek out for yourself ...You will be amaze how much they trying to hide from you!!!!
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War on drugs, war on terror, war on world hunger, the war on ignorance are all vailed issues we live with, but these are only ideas and not reality.

1. Most folks like drugs, legal or not, and the users tend to be more interesting than the non.
2. There will always be some who wish to push their values onto others and terror is the most effective way of doing this.
3. As long as we have those, myself included, who choose to horde, others, sadly, will starve.
4. No matter how much we try to explain what we feel to be the truth, others will always see otherwise and this thread is a case in point.
 
Sprouts said:
4. No matter how much we try to explain what we feel to be the truth, others will always see otherwise and this thread is a case in point.
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i guess time will tell if we get VChiped.

time will tell if we convert our money to amero-dollars

time will tell if the us, canada, and mexico all join together and form the north american union, or w/e they will call it.

time will tell if there will be an all powerful government and they
take away the peoples liberties because of the sovereign world dominated rulers.

time will tell.
 
thanks We-tarded. I really thought it was medman who said that, tho he probably has as well. I'm half way thru ring of power 1-5, gonna call it a night tho.:peace:
 
SHOOT2KILL66 said:
No thank you

i dont like watching terrorist propaganda that trys to tell me my beliefs are wrong ,
Or a world leading Country,s leader would bring his land to its knees and crush there world wide land mark buildings killing 1000,s just to attack sadaam

i wish people would stop posting this bull shit and spreading it round the net ..... s2k :peace:
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I definitely agree
 
medicineman said:
Florida Girl said:
OK, I guess you really don't like to argue. That's fine. Nothing Personal, I reserve that for a select few. But, come on, you really like Bush and john McCain, right?
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LOL.... I love to argue.... I'm often relentless on issues that are near and dear to my heart..... the 9/11 conspiracy theory is IMO laughable and certainly not something I'd care argue over.... which is why I stated my opinion and said you believe what you want and I'll believe what I want.

As to the Bush/McCain comment... well that one has me rolling with laughter. NO I don't like Bush and I can't wait for him to be out of office.... unfortunately I can't stand anyone currently running to in the race to the White House either. Currently I'm registered as an Independent.... a fat lot of good that's going to do me in this election.

I guess the only thing I really have to say about this election is it's an interesting election and one that finally has more people engaged in the election process... which is a GREAT thing. I haven't missed voting in a local or national election since I turned 18 (24 years ago) and it has really irked me over the years that so many people complain and complain.... but don't vote.


medicineman said:
BTW, I just saw a thing on the tube that said there were 16 gunshots fired in the RFK assassination, what say you?
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Ummmm that's out of left field isn't it? Earlier you were asking me if I believed that Oswald acted alone..... well that was the JFK assassination ... not the RFK assasination. So now I guess you are asking if I believe Sirhan Sirhan actually killed RFK ... well I don't know... but I will agree that there seems to be a lot more evidence in his assassination to suggest the story we know is not how it really happend. Conspiracy?? Cover up??? We may never know.

What about good old Teddy and the Chappaquiddick incident???? Do you think that drunken bastard wasn't guilty of killing Mary Jo Kopenchne in a drunk driving accident? Accident??? Maybe... but that drunken fucker didn't get help in a timely manner... in fact he swam across the 500 foot channel and went to his hotel and went to bed without reporting anything to the authorities. Yet somehow he came out unscathed and is still a US Senator to this day!

So if there is conspiracy and cover-up surrounding the Kennedy family... it seems to be a two-way street.
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This whole thing kinda irritates me.... When I was young I used to read a lot about the illuminati, free masons, and the blitzberg group, and all the conspirisies that surround them. I used to watch the jfk assasination videos over and over trying to come to a conclusion. But my biggest question is this

Do you people believe that bush has that much power as to accomplish something as big as 911, and then the cover up with all the videos of terrorest's claiming they did the attacks? This man that everyone makes fun of for being "stupid"? You think he could pull this off? Or are you saying some sort of secret society with bush in it constructed 911? Please all of you enlighten me....
 
I dont think George Bush could figure out how to say "alcada" or even "terrsom" how about "Last thing we need in the white house is a black guy beggin for change"........No there is no possible way.....
 
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