C Cats 2012 Outdoor Grow~

Hello RIU,I thought it was time to time make my 1st thread seeing how everyone is so helpful. This will be my 3rd grow,1st grow was Bagseed Skunk Had two trees got about a QP off ea.2nd Season I would have had a bit more but I thank the RIPPERS for not mtob.....You live you learn I say But Cmon..This Is what I live to learn.. This project I have about 7 Purple Mr.Nice plants,Mind you None of these seeds where fem.All of these Are Bagseeds I only know the Purple,And about 7 randoms.
~Here we go This is the first bagseed I started A while ago,I Had just topped it today at about the 6th Node,Currently Being LST'd,Trying to supercrop but Dont know when I should start.

I had moved it out of the garden cause bugs would snack on it in the night,Although I tryed spraying it with rose bush and veggy bug spray,Didnt wait for results just moved it.
~Little Babys,I had just germed 4 Bagseed and planted not too sure if im a bit late in the planting.~Bag Seed~Can spot the rascal centipede?.

Also I have picked up some "Jobes Organic Fertilizer" Rose & Flower.Its got Bone meal,Feather Meal,Sulfate of potash,Composted Manure,Fungi ANNNND Bacteria.
Its Total Nitrogen-3.0%
Phosphate 5%
Potash 3%
Calcium 8.0%
Magnesium 0.5%
Sulfur 1.0%.

Also I Have Beastie Blooms in Whoom which I LOVE,And would reccomend to anyone,I was All organic till I found out about beastie blooms.
All the thumbnails are of the Purple Mr.nice. Let me know what everyone thinks!

Also,How often should I repot? Me and another person keep arguing over it,I SAY repot as much as possible for a bigger plant,But then again Im seeing monsters in a 4 gal.

THEY SAY That When you repot it alot The roots will just shoot down to the bottem and stunt growth,But For me I would like to know what RIU thinks,

Also does anyone know whats wrong with the 2nd thumbnail of the tiny Purple?Its friends are bigger and that one is tiny,I checked if it needed to be repotted but the roots are not really showing much on bottem So I kept it in that pot.

~C That Cat?

Another thing my friend gave me some flora grow,I was wondering If I Could use this and If it would do anything to benifit my plants,Also have got superthrive from him,


~C That Cat?

Had Picked up some FoxFarm Growbig and Foxfarm Bloom,Ill be picking up tiger bloom aswell.
I put 1.5tsp in a half gal and mixed it then I flushed the one I had topped, I was wondering when I could use the Growbig on the smaller plants.
~Thanks


~C That Cat?

To me there is no such thing as root bound.. ive seen 6 foot monsters in a 1 gallon pot. Ive grown 2 foot plants to flower in party cups. And I dont reccomend all those bloom ferts.. U shud go organic. Wud u boil all those ferts and inhale the vapor? No, so why wud u put em in plants that ur gonna smoke?? Use things like earthworm castings, bat guano, chicken scat, coffee grounds, egg shells, and ash.

Kaendar said:

To me there is no such thing as root bound.. ive seen 6 foot monsters in a 1 gallon pot. Ive grown 2 foot plants to flower in party cups. And I dont reccomend all those bloom ferts.. U shud go organic. Wud u boil all those ferts and inhale the vapor? No, so why wud u put em in plants that ur gonna smoke?? Use things like earthworm castings, bat guano, chicken scat, coffee grounds, egg shells, and ash.

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Thanks alot Kaendar! Thats what I thought,So I should leave out the ferts are just keep using FF huh?


~C That Cat?

Kaendar said:

To me there is no such thing as root bound.. ive seen 6 foot monsters in a 1 gallon pot. Ive grown 2 foot plants to flower in party cups. And I dont reccomend all those bloom ferts.. U shud go organic. Wud u boil all those ferts and inhale the vapor? No, so why wud u put em in plants that ur gonna smoke?? Use things like earthworm castings, bat guano, chicken scat, coffee grounds, egg shells, and ash.

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You don't have to go organic. It's about getting good results with what you have. And with a proper flush at the end of your cycle you will get rid of all the unwanted buildup of salts and force the plant to use what's left resulting in nice buds.

As far as repotting goes I start in rockwool or plugs, move to a 1/2 gallon or 1 gallon pot/bag, then transplant into it's final container no less than 10 gallons. Can you grow a 6ft plant in a 1 gallon container? Yes you can. But wouldn't you rather give your plants room to grow?

C Cat please keep in mind that you are going to get 7-8 different opinions on what you should do in any given situation when you ask here. All I ask is that you research the suggestions that you get PRIOR to making any changes in your grow. You will find that some info is good, some is bad, and some methods just may not be your cup of tea. When in doubt don't do it! Get on the internet and research!

Good Luck!

A little info on Rootbound.

http://www.amsterdamcannabisseeds.com/what-are-root-bound-marijuana-plants.html

Root-bound is a term to describe marijuana plants that have outgrown their container. Healthy roots in a marijuana plant is something to be very much desired as they are the foundation for healthy heavy yielding cannabis seeds. However when roots become wound up like a ball of hemp twine they'll begin hurting the marijuana plant.It's important that your cannabis seeds don't become root bound marijuana plants.[h=2]How to tell if your marijuana plant is root bound.[/h]Stunted Growth. Stretching.
Smaller and slower marijuana bud production.
Marijuana plant needs watering too often.
Wilting.[h=2]How To Solve Root Bound Marijuana Plant Problems[/h]Before you start, run a transplanting trowel or a long, flexible knife (dedicated for marijuana gardening only) between the old pot and your marijuana plant root-ball. It's best if the marijuana plant is completely dry.A dry root bound marijuana plant is easy to transplant.For a root-bound marijuana plant with a strong, woody stem: hold the marijuana plant stem firmly and lift it up so the pot is off the ground. Tap down around the pot rim with a rubber hammer or piece of wood until the pot lets go.Often times the container will just fall off the marijuana plant.Often times a root bound marijuana plant will pull away from the container.By transplanting a root bound cannabis plant when the soil is perfectly dry the transplant will be much easier.Another way is to turn the plant and pot upside down, holding the cannabis plant so it won't crash on the ground when it comes free of the pot. Make sure there's enough clearance to the ground, or you'll smash your marijuana plant.Once you've freed the pot plant from its old pot, inspect its roots, if the roots run in a tight circle around the outside of the root ball, you got there just in time.It's important to loosen up these roots. Some damage will be done to them, putting your marijuana plant in shock. But it'll be fine in a few days.Dig your fingers into the outside 1/2" of these circular roots, loosen the ends up and pull them gently outward. If the roots are very tight, cut two or three 1/2" incisions from top to bottom on the outside of the root-ball.This process may seem cruel, but it gives the roots an opportunity to stop their circular growth habit and begin to grow outward.

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Just my opinion.

I usually start seeds in a party cup, once they outgrow that I transplant to 3 gallon to sex the seeds in. Once I know the sex I kill the males and move the females to whatever size pot I want to finish in ... The Less transplating the better but you also dont want to put a un-sexed plant in a 100 gallon pot a d waste all those good nutes, At least I wouldn't want to.

If you leave them in a one gallon too long it will slow down growth a lot

KushXOJ said:

I usually start seeds in a party cup, once they outgrow that I transplant to 3 gallon to sex the seeds in. Once I know the sex I kill the males and move the females to whatever size pot I want to finish in ... The Less transplating the better but you also dont want to put a un-sexed plant in a 100 gallon pot a d waste all those good nutes, At least I wouldn't want to.

If you leave them in a one gallon too long it will slow down growth a lot

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this is also what i do

Kaendar said:

To me there is no such thing as root bound.. ive seen 6 foot monsters in a 1 gallon pot. Ive grown 2 foot plants to flower in party cups. And I dont reccomend all those bloom ferts.. U shud go organic. Wud u boil all those ferts and inhale the vapor? No, so why wud u put em in plants that ur gonna smoke?? Use things like earthworm castings, bat guano, chicken scat, coffee grounds, egg shells, and ash.

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and i bet ur yield suffered big time because of not replanting

angryblackman said:

You don't have to go organic. It's about getting good results with what you have. And with a proper flush at the end of your cycle you will get rid of all the unwanted buildup of salts and force the plant to use what's left resulting in nice buds.

As far as repotting goes I start in rockwool or plugs, move to a 1/2 gallon or 1 gallon pot/bag, then transplant into it's final container no less than 10 gallons. Can you grow a 6ft plant in a 1 gallon container? Yes you can. But wouldn't you rather give your plants room to grow?


C Cat please keep in mind that you are going to get 7-8 different opinions on what you should do in any given situation when you ask here. All I ask is that you research the suggestions that you get PRIOR to making any changes in your grow. You will find that some info is good, some is bad, and some methods just may not be your cup of tea. When in doubt don't do it! Get on the internet and research!

Good Luck!

A little info on Rootbound.

http://www.amsterdamcannabisseeds.com/what-are-root-bound-marijuana-plants.html



Just my opinion.

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Very true ABM! So I will keep the LST in that pot till it shows sexI figure that pots big enough for a while, also I'm going be buying 100 gallon rain drums later on and burying them...Thats one BIG Hole!(Now I get to feel your pain of digging!)

KushXOJ said:

I usually start seeds in a party cup, once they outgrow that I transplant to 3 gallon to sex the seeds in. Once I know the sex I kill the males and move the females to whatever size pot I want to finish in ... The Less transplating the better but you also dont want to put a un-sexed plant in a 100 gallon pot a d waste all those good nutes, At least I wouldn't want to.

If you leave them in a one gallon too long it will slow down growth a lot

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So Kush you only transplant a max of 3 times?

~Thank you guys for the posts! I reallly appreciate any help to get these thumbs greener!



~C That Cat?

Digging sucks.. That's why I am above ground for the most part. Lazy grower here.

angryblackman said:

Digging sucks.. That's why I am above ground for the most part. Lazy grower here.

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Haha I hear ya,It would be the best idea to smoke AFTER I dig,Or else it would be a half assed hole

(Ahahah get it?"Half assed-hole Hehe)


~C That Cat?

Mr.Marijuana420 said:

and i bet ur yield suffered big time because of not replanting

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No, an ounce dry from a little red cup in my window was a pretty good yield to me.

And the only reason I suggest going organic is bcuz I dont want to be inhaling all those chemicals that are in ferts... u can get the same results using animal crap lol.. and we already eat that because thats wat all of our food is fertilized with. Idk.. its up to you.. but like I said, wud u drink or inhaled those bloom products straight up??

Kaendar said:

And the only reason I suggest going organic is bcuz I dont want to be inhaling all those chemicals that are in ferts... u can get the same results using animal crap lol.. and we already eat that because thats wat all of our food is fertilized with. Idk.. its up to you.. but like I said, wud u drink or inhaled those bloom products straight up??

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Would you eat your organic ferts straight up? Didn't think so.

Kaendar said:

No, an ounce dry from a little red cup in my window was a pretty good yield to me.

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An ounce is good. Simply bumping it up to a 1 gallon container would have bested your ounce though and would have cost you nothing more.

angryblackman said:

Would you eat your organic ferts straight up? Didn't think so.

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No, but they already fertilize the vegetables that we eat so theres no problem. And actually things like coffee grounds and egg shells come from stuff that we directly eat. And using decomposed animal fecies is already part of the natural life cycle.. no added chemicals or nothing.

Kaendar said:

No, but they already fertilize the vegetables that we eat so theres no problem. And actually things like coffee grounds and egg shells come from stuff that we directly eat. And using decomposed animal fecies is already part of the natural life cycle.. no added chemicals or nothing.

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All true but you need compost all of that ahead of time. Going organic may not be a possibility for some due to the amount of prep work and overall time needed. You have to get each individual part of the recipe and mix it in proper amounts to make sure that your plants can make it through the season. For beginning growers it is simply easier to go mainstream and give organic a try once they are a little more experienced.

AND... I'm just gonna say this.... If you really cared that much about what you put into your body you wouldn't be burning and ingesting plant matter and the paper/tobacco wrapper. People have been smoking chem grown weed for years.... Is organically grown weed better for you than properly flushed chem grow? Not sure but I hear alot of arguments both ways. I can tell you this though. When I smoke.. I get high. LOL