California Dream Grow (Skywalker Og)

323cheezy

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You are right mister wolve....
It may have just took me a whole blunt of master kush and diablo mixed to figure that out...lol
I guess i was in denial wishing it could still be slightly female??oh well its gone
 

323cheezy

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im speechless....
nice job jin.... what did i tell u about posting your pics on the jurn?
... makes me look bad.....
nonetheless i must say .... your tahoe is superb !
 

lordjin

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im speechless....
nice job jin.... what did i tell u about posting your pics on the jurn?
... makes me look bad.....
nonetheless i must say .... your tahoe is superb !
Don't feel too bad. I make a lot of people look bad. Lol. Okay, okay... I promised I wouldn't be a dick anymore. Trying... lol.

Edit:
And I will post another even more impressive picture if you don't behave.

Edit2:
Aw, man... you should smell 'em. :leaf: :D
 

323cheezy

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Question for mr wolve...
Can a self hermed plant.... the white bubba i grew out....
Make a 100% male plant????
I thought the only seeds that are made thru self hermification were suppose to have 1/4 herm to female ratio...???
This explains why there are no pure og males...
Yet my club uses colodial silver to make fem seeds.... this is the only i thought u could get a more true og seed....
Oh welll there are few pistols and mostly balls on the w. bubba.....
how did i get a complete male in short ????

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Hermies cause problems because they may carry the hermie trait with their offspring. In fact, genetically the hermie will only produce female seeds and hermaphrodite seeds. It will never produce a male seed. If you have ever seen all female seeds been advertised by seed- banks then you should have the right to know that these seeds come from female plants which are stressed into producing male flowers. The plants then self-pollinate themselves and the results are female and hermaphrodite seeds. In a special case a female known as an XX female will produce more female seeds than hermaphrodite seeds. That is how female seeds are created. In general growers try to keep away from any hermie plants because they will spoil a Sinsemilla crop. Also having pollen floating around in your grow room from a hermie plant will spoil everything else including breeding projects.




info from other site...The creation of " feminized " seeds is done by obtaining pollen from a female plant and fertilizing another female plant. This is done using ethylene inhibiting agents to turn female flower into male flowers and then the pollen is collected.

There are 10 pairs of chromosomes in ****, the smallest pair are the sex chromosomes. Female plants have 2 copies of the X chromosome, therefore their genotype is XX.

Male plants have only 1 copy of the X chromosome, and a Y chromosome. The genotype of male plants in terms of sex chromosomes are XY.

When pollen is created within the plant, one of each of the chromosomes pairs is packaged in to cells that develop pollen. Each pollen grain contains 10 chromosomes, 1 copy of each pair.

So, when the pollen is obtained from a female and then used to pollinate another female the genetic makeup of those seeds will be XX and the chances of the intersexuality trait being expressed will be exponentially decreased.

ps.... the clone i got was stressed in it 3rd week of flower when i got it....
It was from a white bubba(rascal seed) ... a selected pheno from a 10 pack..from esk
 

Wolverine97

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Question for mr wolve...
Can a self hermed plant.... the white bubba i grew out....
Make a 100% male plant????
I thought the only seeds that are made thru self hermification were suppose to have 1/4 herm to female ratio...???
This explains why there are no pure og males...
Yet my club uses colodial silver to make fem seeds.... this is the only i thought u could get a more true og seed....
Oh welll there are few pistols and mostly balls on the w. bubba.....
how did i get a complete male in short ????

edit


Hermies cause problems because they may carry the hermie trait with their offspring. In fact, genetically the hermie will only produce female seeds and hermaphrodite seeds. It will never produce a male seed. If you have ever seen all female seeds been advertised by seed- banks then you should have the right to know that these seeds come from female plants which are stressed into producing male flowers. The plants then self-pollinate themselves and the results are female and hermaphrodite seeds. In a special case a female known as an XX female will produce more female seeds than hermaphrodite seeds. That is how female seeds are created. In general growers try to keep away from any hermie plants because they will spoil a Sinsemilla crop. Also having pollen floating around in your grow room from a hermie plant will spoil everything else including breeding projects.




info from other site...The creation of " feminized " seeds is done by obtaining pollen from a female plant and fertilizing another female plant. This is done using ethylene inhibiting agents to turn female flower into male flowers and then the pollen is collected.

There are 10 pairs of chromosomes in ****, the smallest pair are the sex chromosomes. Female plants have 2 copies of the X chromosome, therefore their genotype is XX.

Male plants have only 1 copy of the X chromosome, and a Y chromosome. The genotype of male plants in terms of sex chromosomes are XY.

When pollen is created within the plant, one of each of the chromosomes pairs is packaged in to cells that develop pollen. Each pollen grain contains 10 chromosomes, 1 copy of each pair.

So, when the pollen is obtained from a female and then used to pollinate another female the genetic makeup of those seeds will be XX and the chances of the intersexuality trait being expressed will be exponentially decreased.

ps.... the clone i got was stressed in it 3rd week of flower when i got it....
It was from a white bubba(rascal seed) ... a selected pheno from a 10 pack..from esk
I honestly don't know the answer to that, but I've seen it happen before. Twice, actually. My guess would be that if the herm plant in question went hermie from stress, then you're far more likely to get the 1/4 herm/ fem ratio, but if it was a non stress-induced herm (natural herm?) then you're going to be a little more likely to get a true male. Admittedly I'm guessing here, but it makes some sense to me.

edit: and honestly cheesy, that male could well be more valuable than a good fem cut.
 

323cheezy

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i will be making some crosses hopefully... with the pollen....
Since the male used in the white bubba was a white fire og leaning male...
Rascals making bank off his new white bubba , whitefire, white erkle, white romulan, white alien , and fire alien...
I was gonna buy a pack ..but there like 130 for ten...
Id rather get an already slected pheno from cut personaly for 10 or from another free....
So ill just make my own since the prices are crazy...
 

Wolverine97

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i will be making some crosses hopefully... with the pollen....
Since the male used in the white bubba was a white fire og leaning male...
Rascals making bank off his new white bubba , whitefire, white erkle, white romulan, white alien , and fire alien...
I was gonna buy a pack ..but there like 130 for ten...
Id rather get an already slected pheno from cut personaly for 10 or from another free....
So ill just make my own since the prices are crazy...
I hear ya on the Raskal prices, they're insane and I won't go there. Was recently offered a deal on a quantity of his packs but passed cuz it was still 100/pack even at volume. No bueno.
 
Og raskal prices are crazy bu the guy got fire. I got some of his fire og, whit fire and the white I think that's all I need ESP since I be making my own crosses;)
 

DST

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I think there would be a chance to get a male( a very very slim one), not all hermied plants produce hermie offspring. It's all really a numbers game and a road I think as a breeder you would not like to go down to really obtain that stable male.
 

323cheezy

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high oc


Im one to try out new strains .... mostly new ogs or og hybrids....
since i was a fan of the white bubba... i wanted to try the white again...

The white isnt the tastiest strain ... but its very hyped up... and was the highest priced medicine availible..... Ive had it once but threw a grower... so i jumped at it seeing at the shop...

Had a nice sweet piney kinda skunky smell....
The smoke is almost flavorless ... and wont give you the flavor burst of on og or kush ...
Its more on the bitter , ammonia side.... more of an acquired taste..
Has a kinda chemdog like taste ... but really fresh and minty .... more off that non lemony fuel part of a great og...

The high was really the best part... very sativa dominate... agood one for the headstash with a higher potency than you would expect from a sativa....



So d i must admit i never did any breeding projects.... but i know a couple of things... ive red on the internet.... so will it be good to put the pollen on my lower branches of the hiigh octane and sour tahoe... ??




Hey jin!
I think my high oc look really similar , in person , to your tahoe...
The leaves are so healthy , but small kinda, and such a relax growth ....
Ive never seen such an og looking cut in my garden..... its not so big...since i took 3 cuts off the bottom... that would have made it appear larger.... but the plant energy is very focased on the 2 main heads....
 

Wolverine97

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You can do the lower branches, but you have to be VERY careful in the process. Use an artists' paint brush, turn all fans off, tie a plastic bag over the portions you don't want pollinated and carefully paint the pollen onto the buds you choose. Let them sit overnight like this without air circulation, then rinse them off the next day. You'll need to do it 4-5 weeks before harvest time.
 

323cheezy

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cool but some guy told me that the white bubba was probly herm genetics and not good for using.... unless it was forced to herm...
i guess to say that maybe these are just bad herm genos....
 
cool but some guy told me that the white bubba was probly herm genetics and not good for using.... unless it was forced to herm...
i guess to say that maybe these are just bad herm genos....
Cheeze if u got that white bubba male from a self pollinated white bubba then I would agree with dst don't use it as that's a road you do not want to go down to find a stable male will be hard and in the plants genetics it will have herm in it blood.

If u want a male start fresh from a reg pack of seeds.
 

DST

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I have never thought about covering the other bags, but have used a bag dusted with pollen then put over the bud to be pollenated.

I have been working on plans for a pollenation box that can be used in the same room as another normal grow. It will be ghetto so should be do-able by most people who want to give it a try.

You can do the lower branches, but you have to be VERY careful in the process. Use an artists' paint brush, turn all fans off, tie a plastic bag over the portions you don't want pollinated and carefully paint the pollen onto the buds you choose. Let them sit overnight like this without air circulation, then rinse them off the next day. You'll need to do it 4-5 weeks before harvest time.
 

323cheezy

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thanx white and dst for your help.... you guys know your stuff...and dwezey also shared the same thoughts...
I wil not use the white bubba for pollen...

On a good note.... the guy who gave me the ho cut (justblazin).... told me he had some pollen from a whitefire alien.... ogrs work again... male reg seed...
He will also be pollinating the high octane... and me as well.....
So we will be still making crosses... and hopefully backross the white alien a couple times to the ho....
High white alien anyone?
 
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