Call me a moron - 12/12 lighting vs. Flowering

jigfresh

jigfresh

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Hey guys,

I feel stupid, but I think I Finally understand something very basic and important.

12/12 does not equal flowering.

Tell me if I'm wrong, but I think that is right.

I am new, 4 days into 12/12 on my first grow, things are going great. I have been trying to guess when my plants will be done and I wanted to know where to count from with a 8-9 week flowering time (for my strain). That 8-9 weeks is counted from the time the plants start showing Flowers???? Is that correct.

Before I thought 12/12 was flower, so when you switch to 12/12 you switch to Flower Nutes, and you start counting Day 1 flower, Day 2...... I think I was wrong??? I was wasn't I?

So unique opportunity for you. Tell me I was a moron, and I'll be happy.

But seriously, I was wrong before and now I'm right?

8 weeks flower means 8 weeks from when you first start seeing flowers?

I may be wrong, but I think a lot of first timer mess this up. (it's probably just me)
 
jigfresh

jigfresh

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snypavat said:
The guy above is right. Day one flower is the day you switch to 12/12
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Damn. So I'm wrong about being wrong.

So... my plants should be in flower 8 weeks (acording to strain info). That means 8 weeks of 12/12. (or should be if I don't fuck things up)

I have a bong just like the one ernie is smoking.
 
snypavat

snypavat

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jigfresh said:
Damn. So I'm wrong about being wrong.

So... my plants should be in flower 8 weeks (acording to strain info). That means 8 weeks of 12/12. (or should be if I don't fuck things up)

I have a bong just like the one ernie is smoking.
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Yes. 8 weeks 12/12. You should see somehing after a week or so of 12/12.
 
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houstonblowskush

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man I heard the same thing......and i been on the fence about this one....to each is his own..plants usually go longer then what they are supposed to anyway
 
SiCoSkateboards

SiCoSkateboards

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12/12 lighting makes the plant think winter is coming, in which make it photosinth. which in lamense terms would be flowering.bongsmilieit does this so when the males die, the seeds they produce will in turn make more grow the following season.

and ur a moron, just kidding.
 
jigfresh

jigfresh

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So what do you guys do about nutrients.

start some kind of mix after you switch?

and if you had a choice of lights would you use mh for the first week or two of 12/12, then hps?
 
SiCoSkateboards

SiCoSkateboards

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no hps the whole way thru, and big bloom for veg and tiger bloom for flower, both from fox farm at your local hydro shop about 35 bucks for both
 
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I♥BUD

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*DISCLAIMER-I am no way saying this is the right or wrong way. I myself have grown to believe that "flowering" starts at the first signs of flowers. (Which in my case, always start in Vegging, due to pre-flowers) But I actually have started counting from the "Real Signs" of flowering(normally 7-14 days after the flip to 12/12) I STRONGLY believe in checking the Trichs, is a major factor in harvest. I also think of the flowering times provided by the breeders are just guidelines. I am also in NO WAY trying to start arguments. I have posted 1 of these emails in another thread, where some A-hole had to be put in his place, for trying to say I was "lying" about the emails, because the breeder wouldn't say something that stupid. When I posted a pic taken DIRECTLY from the breeders website, and provided him with a link to the breeder's website and the breeder's email address..... Needless to say the A-hole never commented back. I'm not doing this for any reason but bringing knowledge to the rest of my bro's and sis. I am not saying I agree with the breeders. I just emailed them and watever they emailed me back, I have posted. All I did is google "When do you start counting flowering", and watever cannabis community I was registered to, I posted this in the threads best suited. NO MATTER HOW OLD THEY WERE!
So please, I hope u guys can appreciate the time I took to write these breeders. And out of 12-15 breeders that I wrote, these 2 were the only 2 that responded, IMMEDIATELY! All I have done is copied and pasted from my email to thread. If I get more replies, I plan on startin a thread based on this topic. "When do BREEDERS start counting....."

I know this thread is OLD as hell. BUT!!!!!! After reading a bunch of different websites, I decided to write a breeder myself, and see if they would respond. I decided to go with Greenhouse Seeds, and they replied my email in less than 24 hours. I am only posting this to help any future people wondering when the breeders themselves start counting. I hope this help someone in the future. Now I know that this is only 1 breeder, and I will try to email a few more, but for now....... Here is a copy of my email from Greenhouse Seeds.
Happy Holidays,
Drdodge29
Dear XXXXXXXXXXXXXX(my name doesn't matter),

Thank you for your email.

You start counting from the moment you switch the light to 12/12. The
flowering time depends on which strain you are growing. If you completed the
flowering weeks and the hairs are still quite white you can leave them a bit
longer. When 20-30% of the hairs become brown they are ready.

Kind regards,

GHSC

This next 1 is from Ceres Seeds.


I'm gonna start adding these Disclaimers to my posts, to avoid arguments. LMFAO!



*THIS DOES NOT MEAN I AGREE WITH THESE EMAILS, AND THAT IS THE CORRECT WAY. I AM JUST POSTING THEM TO ANSWER PEOPLE'S QUESTIONS ABOUT WHEN BREEDER'S STAR COUNTING.


*I hope I don't offend any breeder's out there by posting these emails. This is for the SOLE purpose of people's E-JEW-MAH-KAY-SHION(EDUCATION FOR THOSE WHO AREN'T EDUCATED, LOL. JUST KIDDIN PPL. SMILE!). It does NOT mean that we are actually growing any cannabis. Unless it is allowed in our country:weed:.



Hai xxxxxxxx.(once again my name is IRRELEVANT:shock:)

the correct answer would be from the moment you switch from 18/12 to 12/12.
Of course the stated flowering times are indications. You might want to flower a
couple of days longer or shorter, depending on your circumstances .

Good luck.
Louis

Ceres Seeds Amsterdam
PO Box 10213
1001 EE, Amsterdam

Email: info@ceresseeds.com
Website: www.ceresseeds.com
 
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