Calling All Ganja Genius's

GeneralRedEye91 · Sep 24, 2008

Hello all the Big Brains of this forum this is my first plant. I need help on basically my setup and a few problems i'm having. I think i might just about have the basics down.

Right first my set up:
2x 125W Flo Envirolite (Red,Blue) With Reflector
1 Fan
In a cuboard with white walls

The plants a 2rd Gen from a friend who stuffed it up the first time. I regenarated it not really knowing what to do but it worked and was looking really heathy up to flowering it was on maricle gro plant food that u just add to water (high nitrate).

Then was told by a friend i needed to get some (cavemans) bat guano and as i was looking found some rock guano mixed it with some miracle grow bloom booster 0/0/30+ (alot of each maybe a bit too much bat guano as i have nitrate burning and curling leaves) I put in several hand fulls of all three scratched it into the soil and have been watering it in no more nuits just water.

As the buds started forming the plant started leaning i mean really learning 90% angle when not in my cupboard not sure if its the pot size or growin without movement weak stalks.

Any all brains welcome please let me know on anything that would help thanx

Things im not sure about:
1.How close should my light be?
2.Any info on nitrate burning
3.why has my plant got a ganster lean?
4.Should my buds be that size
5.Pots and stalks too small?

mcclurecrazydog · Sep 24, 2008

you need to give her support, i use thin dowel rods and loosly attach a zip tie to help guide it. you can get them in the hardware section at walmart in bags of 50 or so, also available in craft department but cost more. i am trying to grow with the least amount of chemicals, just a little miricle grow, it looks like she is a sativa, they take longer to finish budding, your about 1/3 to 1/2 way there. My sativa looks like that now and i'm just going to be giving her molassess mixed 1tbls per gal water, once a week to give her extra carbs so she'll plump up a bit. looks like you are well on your way. i'm still relatively new also, learning by trial and error over the last year. i've had a few small harvests, getting ready for my first outside

GeneralRedEye91 · Sep 24, 2008

Cheers for the info on type never thought to ask. Soz for being a newb but what is molassess? and u are my first reply ever :clap:

OregonMeds · Sep 24, 2008

Stake it and tie it up. Your stalks grew thin and weak because you didn't have a fan or enough of a fan, so next time...

Also those lights should be within inches of the tops of the plants. As close as you can get away with. I have not used those but I'm guessing 2" away from the tops.

You overdid it on the nutes, give none for the rest of the grow and just flush heavily with water only and let the water drain off a LOT so they all get a good flush.

Big P · Sep 24, 2008

i think the pot is too small

GeneralRedEye91 · Sep 24, 2008

so whats molasses? the thing is the rock guano and miracle gro bloom booster were slow release pellets so would watering it put more in the soil?

dazed76 · Sep 24, 2008

transplant it to a bigger pot feed it advanced nutrients big bud .2 grams per liter nothing else then staking it down after u transplant looks like it needs 4 weeks

GeneralRedEye91 · Sep 24, 2008

Advanced nuits? what do ya suggest? does anyone have any tips about my set up? should i proon? wil transplate just been putting it off coz don't want to fuck it up!! or i will be :wall:

GeneralRedEye91 · Sep 24, 2008

how do u put a clip a ur pic??

GeneralRedEye91 · Sep 25, 2008

dazed76 said:
transplant it to a bigger pot feed it advanced nutrients big bud .2 grams per liter nothing else then staking it down after u transplant looks like it needs 4 weeks

got any tips on how to transplate it?? do i turn it upside down? could u please go into how much nuits o use thanks for the reply

Phinxter · Sep 25, 2008

im gonna have to agree on the transplant. that way you dont have all that guano in your soil releasing evertime you try to flush or water.
to transplant i suggest getting some help. someone you absoloutly trust. and have them support the plant while you flip it over and extract the root ball.
try not to disturb the roots but get rid of as much of that soil as you can without damaging roots

crazy-mental · Sep 25, 2008

GeneralRedEye91 said:
Hello all the Big Brains of this forum this is my first plant. I need help on basically my setup and a few problems i'm having. I think i might just about have the basics down.

Right first my set up:
2x 125W Flo Envirolite (Red,Blue) With Reflector
1 Fan
In a cuboard with white walls

The plants a 2rd Gen from a friend who stuffed it up the first time. I regenarated it not really knowing what to do but it worked and was looking really heathy up to flowering it was on maricle gro plant food that u just add to water (high nitrate).

Then was told by a friend i needed to get some (cavemans) bat guano and as i was looking found some rock guano mixed it with some miracle grow bloom booster 0/0/30+ (alot of each maybe a bit too much bat guano as i have nitrate burning and curling leaves) I put in several hand fulls of all three scratched it into the soil and have been watering it in no more nuits just water.

As the buds started forming the plant started leaning i mean really learning 90% angle when not in my cupboard not sure if its the pot size or growin without movement weak stalks.

Any all brains welcome please let me know on anything that would help thanx

Things im not sure about:
1.How close should my light be?= hps 1 foot. flos 2 to 4" .
you will need a fan with both kinds of lights.

2.Any info on nitrate burning= feeed every other water, if you feed to much, flush and cut down feeding to half and grad build it back up to rec dose.

3.why has my plant got a ganster lean?= its getting too big.
1st the pot is too small to support the plants
2nd id repott and stalk it up or tie it up with string.

4.Should my buds be that size= buds look ok.
how far on are you?.
do you have a timer?.
5.Pots and stalks too small?

=yes and yes.
if you dont get a bigger pot or tie it up, its going to snap.

hope you get plenty of smokable buds. :weed:

crazy-mental · Sep 25, 2008

cut off the old pot, and dont damage the roots .
do it above your new pot with the soil in it.
plant it down more in the new pot and cover the bottom of the stalk to make it more stable.and get somthing to help hold up the plant while it gets stronger.
fans help to make stalks etc stronger and also help the plants rid there toxins from the leaves.
good luck.
hope to see new pics with your new pots etc...
and dont tell anyone your growing.

Little Tommy · Sep 25, 2008

A tip for transplanting is to let the plant dry out well before transplanting. This will make it easier as the rootball will hold together better. After it is safely in the new container fill the soil mixture to the top and water in well with PH'd and de-gassed water. If I was in your situation I would put it in a tomato cage for gentle support to finish out the grow. No more nutes, you already have too much time release in the soil. I would suggest Molasses @ 1 tbsp per gallon of water to finish out the grow.

crazy-mental · Sep 25, 2008

Little Tommy said:
A tip for transplanting is to let the plant dry out well before transplanting. This will make it easier as the rootball will hold together better. After it is safely in the new container fill the soil mixture to the top and water in well with PH'd and de-gassed water. If I was in your situation I would put it in a tomato cage for gentle support to finish out the grow. No more nutes, you already have too much time release in the soil. I would suggest Molasses @ 1 tbsp per gallon of water to finish out the grow.

good advise.

GeneralRedEye91 · Sep 25, 2008

crazy-mental said:
=yes and yes.
if you dont get a bigger pot or tie it up, its going to snap.

hope you get plenty of smokable buds.

Cheers bro so do i any idear on how much i could get if i sort it out?

GeneralRedEye91 · Sep 25, 2008

Little Tommy said:
A tip for transplanting is to let the plant dry out well before transplanting. This will make it easier as the rootball will hold together better. After it is safely in the new container fill the soil mixture to the top and water in well with PH'd and de-gassed water. If I was in your situation I would put it in a tomato cage for gentle support to finish out the grow. No more nutes, you already have too much time release in the soil. I would suggest Molasses @ 1 tbsp per gallon of water to finish out the grow.

Thanks for the advice i was thinking about that wet or dry now i know cheers :clap:

GeneralRedEye91 · Sep 25, 2008

so as the pellets are in the soil what should i do when i transplant take out or leave it in?

GeneralRedEye91 · Sep 25, 2008

Phinxter said:
im gonna have to agree on the transplant. that way you dont have all that guano in your soil releasing evertime you try to flush or water.
to transplant i suggest getting some help. someone you absoloutly trust. and have them support the plant while you flip it over and extract the root ball.
try not to disturb the roots but get rid of as much of that soil as you can without damaging roots

What size plant pot were you thinking of? cheers for the reply

GeneralRedEye91 · Sep 25, 2008

crazy-mental said:
=

Its been growing abooooout veg 4 weeks and flowering 4-5 weeks i think. thanx 4 the help

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