CALLING ALL HASH AND WAX MAKERS!!!!!!!!!

ShLUbY

ShLUbY

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hyroot said:
Dry ice method is far from very pure. Tons of plant matter gets mixed in with the dry ice kief. It's also no melt. The only time dry ice should be used is in the washer when ambient temps are above 100 F degrees

Bho is the only one that is dangerous

Rosin and bubble hash are no where near dangerous. They're tedious but not dangerous.

Dry ice method produces the lowest quality of all extracts

Newbs man.....
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hyroot is 100% correct. dry ice is no good. no melt. no go.

rosin and ice water extract is where it's at!
 
hyroot

hyroot

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D_Urbmon said:
Amen.


and don't forget about dry sift!

imo dry sift is even a step up above water hash and rosin.
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Yeah but down here in So Cal I need a dedicated 50 F degree room to hang and slow dry flowers and cure flowers. I would love to be able to make the same quality dry sift as my bubble. Until I move into a larger house. Or get a facility that's not going to happen.

I've tried making sift in a cold environment several times. I'm convinced now that the flowers and have to hang and cure in the same environment and never be exposed to anything different.
 
D_Urbmon

D_Urbmon

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hyroot said:
Yeah but down here in So Cal I need a dedicated 50 F degree room to hang and slow dry flowers and cure flowers. I would love to be able to make the same quality dry sift as my bubble. Until I move into a larger house. Or get a facility that's not going to happen.

I've tried making sift in a cold environment several times. I'm convinced now that the flowers and have to hang and cure in the same environment and never be exposed to anything different.
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I guess I'm lucky to live in a dry part of Canada for that aspect. :D

but I haven't done any special cure or dry to do my sifting and have had decent success in 60-70 degree temps. I just let them hang to dry for longer time than I would before they would normally go in the jar.

I have yet to get my winter sift on.


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budlover13

budlover13

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Gquebed said:
Dry ice hash.

No fancy equipment.
No solvents.
Less mess.
Probably the quickest method
Very pure result.

Awesome product all around.

Some will say their way is better and purer and they may be right.

BUT. Those ways are messy, time consuming and often dangerous. So the best bang for you buck and your time is dry ice....
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Just did my first 2 runs. Nice stuff :)
 
PKHydro

PKHydro

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Dry ice hash mostly contaminants. Hell i even prefer grinder keif over dry ice hash.

1)Dry sift
2)Ice water
3)Rosin
 
PKHydro

PKHydro

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Contaminants like leaf matter. IMO the purpose of making a concentrate is to obtain the purest product. I want pure heads, or the oil extracted from those heads under heat and pressure.

When you dry ice sift, you pulverize that leaf mater into particles so small it's damn near impossible to separate it from the trichome heads you've also knocked off. Not a pure end product.
 
budlover13

budlover13

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PKHydro said:
Contaminants like leaf matter. IMO the purpose of making a concentrate is to obtain the purest product. I want pure heads, or the oil extracted from those heads under heat and pressure.

When you dry ice sift, you pulverize that leaf mater into particles so small it's damn near impossible to separate it from the trichome heads you've also knocked off. Not a pure end product.
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Totally agreed.

It just works for my intended use. Tried to dab some and was shocked at how much plant material was left as ash. It dabbed, kinda.

I used a 73mic bag only. My biggest thing was how quick and easy it was for what I got. Don't got a lot of extra time with a teenage son and a wife in kidney failure.

Again, I love me some pure dabs, but everything has it's place imo.

Edit : Gonna try qwizo or butter with my remnants
 
budlover13

budlover13

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PKHydro said:
Have you tried to rosin your dry ice? You'd get something similar.
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As a matter of fact, I had a buddy show me how to do that this last weekend with a hair straightener. He used, not even dry sift, but the bottom of his trimming bins sifted through a kitchen sifter. Was impressed with the effect but not the yield.

Was thinking of trying it myself but have no hot plates yet.

I'm a curious kind of guy.
 
D_Urbmon

D_Urbmon

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Corso312 said:
What kind of screens u guys use for dry sift?
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I use t shirt printing screens. 110 lpi on the top and 195 lpi on the bottom. Not to be confused with micron.


Poconoscreen got the hookup or one can source locally from a printing supply shop. Don't pay insane markups like $100 per screen.
 
PKHydro

PKHydro

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budlover13 said:
As a matter of fact, I had a buddy show me how to do that this last weekend with a hair straightener. He used, not even dry sift, but the bottom of his trimming bins sifted through a kitchen sifter. Was impressed with the effect but not the yield.

Was thinking of trying it myself but have no hot plates yet.

I'm a curious kind of guy.
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Get yourself a hair straightener, and your going to need something to contain your dry ice sift in. Like a 25 micron blotting screen or some people use tea bags. Then pack a gram or so, in your screen wrap it so it's a tight little ball place it in between some parchment and squeeze the shit out of it with the hair straightener. You'll get some better yields than your buddy did with his trimmings.
 
Psyphish

Psyphish

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Tried making rosin... can't say I'm impressed. Wasted some bud and ended up with a tiny amount of oil that I couldn't use, don't think that amount of oil could get anyone high, but the buds would've.
 
Gquebed

Gquebed

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hyroot said:
Dry ice method is far from very pure. Tons of plant matter gets mixed in with the dry ice kief. It's also no melt. The only time dry ice should be used is in the washer when ambient temps are above 100 F degrees

Bho is the only one that is dangerous

Rosin and bubble hash are no where near dangerous. They're tedious but not dangerous.

Dry ice method produces the lowest quality of all extracts

Newbs man.....
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We've been through this. Won't re-hash it with you. Pun intended.

I will allow that you are correct, dry ice has is not "pure" as in 100%. But I maintain that it comes in at a very acceptable level of purity. Maybe not as high as rosin, but rosin if far from 100% pure too.

I never meant to say that rosin or bubble was dangerous. I was referring to BHO and other solvent methods, which I think is obvious to even the simplest of simpletons. And to say that dry ice produces the lowest quality is simply not true, which you also know. Such is dependent on the skill with which it is produced, which is true for all methods.
 
Gquebed

Gquebed

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D_Urbmon said:
Amen.


and don't forget about dry sift!

imo dry sift is even a step up above water hash and rosin.
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You agree that dry ice is no good then go on to say that dry sift is even better than rosin and water hash?

Are you high? lol

Dry ice IS a variation of dry sift. The result is very much the same, particularly in purity.
 
Gquebed

Gquebed

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PKHydro said:
Contaminants like leaf matter. IMO the purpose of making a concentrate is to obtain the purest product. I want pure heads, or the oil extracted from those heads under heat and pressure.

When you dry ice sift, you pulverize that leaf mater into particles so small it's damn near impossible to separate it from the trichome heads you've also knocked off. Not a pure end product.
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Same thing with rosin, only to a lesser degree. When you press (crush) the bud you can be certain that particulate will end up in the final product. You may not be able to see it all, but it is there. Just crushed finer. It may be purer than a lot of methods but it is far from "pure".
 
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