Calling All Noob Growers

I like Riddle feed every watering. But I would say to all new growers. Feed/water/water/feed/water/water for your first grows. Learn more about how a plant uses the food you give it. Once you grow with no worries with that routine move to Feed/water/feed/water and get that working good for you. By then you should be better able to 'read' your plants needs and then feed/feed/feed. This is one of those cases- "do as I say, not as I do" LOL


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Yes I did read that and I thank you for the great info....One more thing I didnt see....What Dynagro Products do u use??? So if I have read correctly, You use Jacks classic everytime you water and you use dynagro (Grow, Bloom, TK???) for a Boost every third feeding...and the formula varies as you "grow" along...is that about right?. Thanks for hitting me back...MORE +REP your way buddy...

@Riddle - another member suggested that since I had used some old Botanicare Nitrex that its high Ammonium factor was now causing a possible Potassium lockout. But you're right a flush is probably warranted now.

Thanks again for your input and all the advice you give to everyone here on RIU. It does make a difference!

cowboylogic said:

I like Riddle feed every watering. But I would say to all new growers. Feed/water/water/feed/water/water for your first grows. Learn more about how a plant uses the food you give it. Once you grow with no worries with that routine move to Feed/water/feed/water and get that working good for you. By then you should be better able to 'read' your plants needs and then feed/feed/feed. This is one of those cases- "do as I say, not as I do" LOL


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I totally agree that new growers should take a slow style learening curve doing this as it is most important to learn to read the plants needs and to understand what is happening so that when you see it you know what to do,,,,,

That being said there have been several new growers that have done it with success, but I also believe it is the ones that read all of my threads ALL the WAY THROUGH, which does give a foundation of understanding

Comando said:

Yes I did read that and I thank you for the great info....One more thing I didnt see....What Dynagro Products do u use??? So if I have read correctly, You use Jacks classic everytime you water and you use dynagro (Grow, Bloom, TK???) for a Boost every third feeding...and the formula varies as you "grow" along...is that about right?. Thanks for hitting me back...MORE +REP your way buddy...

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I use DynaGro FoilagePro, Bloom, ProtK and DynaRoc

with Jack's I have all purpose and Bloom what they call the dynamic duo but in my current grow I will be switching to the Jack's Proffessional called Ktrait

and yes you up the nutes as the plant needs more, some push it to what it can take but this can cause stress as well as other problems, I do not do this

ya, i fed every time i watered, but i used distilled water, with my final PPM at 700-800, after adding all of my nutes. FF OS BB CC. with Bloombastic PK booster, in week 5-6. and Snow storm ultra from week 3 on. I also used molasses, and a Calcium and Magnesium supplement. but i also watered and i got about 1/5 runoff, so if i put a gallon a pot, a got quite a bit of runoff to leach out excess salts, didnt really burn any of my plants, except giving my kaya 47 a blast of Jacks, about the 3rd week of flower.

riddleme said:

Ramble in .............

I totally agree that new growers should take a slow style learening curve doing this as it is most important to learn to read the plants needs and to understand what is happening so that when you see it you know what to do,,,,,

That being said there have been several new growers that have done it with success, but I also believe it is the ones that read all of my threads ALL the WAY THROUGH, which does give a foundation of understanding

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Yep. While on the front side of the curve and reading up. Air to the side of caution. But keep reading so you can keep feeding and tending a healthy garden.
Stoned edit: Spout out....

ya, research and and caution and simplicity is key with Marijuana. also, learning how to read plants, when they want water. the only thing i had problems with, was their magnesium uptake during flowering due to snow storm. id give them magnesium every feeding, and if i laid off on the amount a little bit, and bam mag def. now im stoned rambling. i dont think i can ever go back to street weed. this is the best tasting, smelling, and strongest weed ive ever had.

EP,

I know exactly how you feel. There's no way i could go back to smoking schwag. Funny how the stuff i used to think was pretty good tastes like dirt to me now.

The plus side to growing your own is that your quality is just going to get better. My first set of plants produced decent potency bud, but nothing compared to what I'm getting now that I have several grows behind me. I'd be willing to set my blueberry against the blueberry you can get at the dispensary any day in terms of the high and taste, though I'll admit I don't get quite as tight of buds (I use 600w lights, most of them use 1000w) And the yields are far better once you've had a chance to really learn the strain and dial in all the variables in your grow.

Hey Riddle, I've proven to my own satisfaction that you can take a strain far past the "limits" of it's genetics with enough veg time and a good environment. Or at least you can with blueberry. My blueberries are Indica dominants that are supposed to top out around 4- 4.5 ft tall, but I have several in flowering that have passed the 6 foot mark currently, and two that are still in vegging that are getting close. Veg time has averaged 8-9 weeks starting from 5 inch clones, with a single fimming at week 4 of veg. I have been giving them very minimal nutes during veg and have also discovered that a 5 gallon pot full of happy frog can go 7-8 weeks and produce a 4ft plant with a single dose of nutes at the beginning of week 5 without the plants showing any signs of nute deficiency at all. They might have grown faster with more nutes, but considering how big they are without them I'm glad I did it the way I did.

EdGreyfox said:

EP,

I know exactly how you feel. There's no way i could go back to smoking schwag. Funny how the stuff i used to think was pretty good tastes like dirt to me now.

The plus side to growing your own is that your quality is just going to get better. My first set of plants produced decent potency bud, but nothing compared to what I'm getting now that I have several grows behind me. I'd be willing to set my blueberry against the blueberry you can get at the dispensary any day in terms of the high and taste, though I'll admit I don't get quite as tight of buds (I use 600w lights, most of them use 1000w) And the yields are far better once you've had a chance to really learn the strain and dial in all the variables in your grow.

Hey Riddle, I've proven to my own satisfaction that you can take a strain far past the "limits" of it's genetics with enough veg time and a good environment. Or at least you can with blueberry. My blueberries are Indica dominants that are supposed to top out around 4- 4.5 ft tall, but I have several in flowering that have passed the 6 foot mark currently, and two that are still in vegging that are getting close. Veg time has averaged 8-9 weeks starting from 5 inch clones, with a single fimming at week 4 of veg. I have been giving them very minimal nutes during veg and have also discovered that a 5 gallon pot full of happy frog can go 7-8 weeks and produce a 4ft plant with a single dose of nutes at the beginning of week 5 without the plants showing any signs of nute deficiency at all. They might have grown faster with more nutes, but considering how big they are without them I'm glad I did it the way I did.

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Very nice! where's the pics LOL

glad to see ya back, I missed ya, have you checked out the new grow yet? balls to wall sig link raining on em and feedin em at 3 weeks (they are in happy frogs at the moment) and damn they are growing fast

do y'all think the water in the pic on the pH scale will harm plants?

well that was my well water yesterday before I put a filter on it. this pic is after i installed the Filtrete undersink filter last night. Better?

much better, you should have it tested so you know what is in it

ps why I actually grow tomatoes so I can "test" the water, they get straight tap water

that is what made me realize my water was F'ed up. my tomato plant has not bee doing well either, and the leaves are a little twisted. hopefully i will see an improvement on her and on my other plants.

will the discoloration of my water, which is being caused by my ferts, mess up the PH color chart readings? does that make sense? i have been looking online, and cannot find a good answer

riddleme said:

It should not, never has with mine

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Same here. It may look murky and dark in a gallon pitcher but by the time you fill the little vile it clear up a bunch. And if you still worry about it a 15 ft roll of litmus is only like 5 bucks and last awhile. I have a Milwaukee SM 802 but rarely use it anymore. I would rather just rip and dip. Nature is not always perfect so why should we have to be?

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well thanks guys! it seems to have risen to about 5 since i added the nutes this morning. i mixed up some fish emulsions, a little flower nutes, epsom, and molasses at very low doses, less than 1/2 teaspoon per gallon. since they have been getting that real acidic water and were probably locking out most nutes i wanted to give them a little of everything as a foliar. but i want the ph closer to 6 at least. if it raises naturally i will spray a little and dome them later. here is a picture of what they looked like wed or thur. they looked a little worse today, but still standing on their own. i think they will pull through, but stunted and needing extra time of course to recover.

They do look locked up. A top dressing of worm castings edit: and dolomite watered in with a light compost tea would help a bunch. Worm castings and worms are our greatest Allies in growing. They have the wonderful ability of adjusting the ph of the medium for us. If it is high, they will lower it. On the otherhand if its low they will raise it. Little wiggly bastards have been crawling beneath our feet and crops since the beginning of time. They are truely in the know and willing to share with us that they know. Crap and all...

hope somebody can help me out with a question that might have been covered in the 88 pages here. Making it rain seem to me that it would help with the yields in auto flowering strains as well,do you agree? Big thanks to Riddleme for the great thread.

R C Glasscock said:

hope somebody can help me out with a question that might have been covered in the 88 pages here. Making it rain seem to me that it would help with the yields in auto flowering strains as well,do you agree? Big thanks to Riddleme for the great thread.

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making it rain works on all plants, it's how Mom Nature rolls, I even do it to my tomatoes