Can i substitute subcools base soil with my already existing soil???

i live where the mississippi river used to flood a centry ago,anyway the land is still flooded at least every two years,so i think their already minerals and some nutriets,ive already tilled it up and added a genous amount of horse manure and perlite,this is befor i came across supersoil,so i was curiose of yall opinion on adding 25 lb of worm castings,Azomite,dolomite,bone and blood meal,epson salt and bat guano if i can get my hands on it

any advice would be greatly appreciated
 

treemansbuds

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Maybe do a "side by side" comparison...
That way you have your answer for the future.
I think Subcool's super soil kicks ass, but I'd try a side by side.
TMB-
 

1badmasonman

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I agree with treesman, you should have on e hell of a rich soil with the manure tilled in the existing soil. It would be interesting to see how them ladies do :) 1BMM
 

powerslide

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i would do one w/ the native soil. one w/ the the stuff you added to the native. One w/ native and SS. one w/ native, SS and what you added. Think that will cover all your experiments and will help you know what you need to do. Just be sure to use clones from the same plants so you have accurate test

I plan on doing a SS grow outdoor this year as well. Be sure to note that he uses the SS on the lower 2/3rds of his buckets so i would be sure to put it down a couple inches below where you are planting the plant if its atleast about a foot tall. if its smaller i would give more room because its a super hot soil
 

Gastanker

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I amend my local soil very similarly to subcools and I have amazing results. This was early in the year, that one spaghetti squash plant took over my entire yard and yielded over 30 squash. I grew more vegetables than my family could in eat a 3' strip of soil on the side of my driveway... If you have good soil those amendments do wonders.



We tried to give as many away and we still have them taking up precious space all over the place...



We started feeding the chickens zucchini because were were just so fucking sick of it. I was harvesting two or three zucchinis this size every day with just three plants.



I assume that if I had planted bud instead of vegetables the yield would have been just as ridiculous but chances are I wouldn't be complaining about the excess nearly as much.
 

doublejj

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Why don't you plant bud there?.........and I see a carport!

peace
doublejj
P.S. Great job on the veggies, I love squash!
 

Gastanker

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Why don't you plant bud there?.........and I see a carport!

peace
doublejj
P.S. Great job on the veggies, I love squash!
Thanks :) Needs to be x # of feet from the property line and I'm way to paranoid to not be 100% compliant.
 
im still pretty new to this,i've only been growing the last 2 years bagseed,and last year i guess u can say i was partially successful jusss the buds were a lil skimpy,well im getting in on the ATT promo,and hopefully i grow some pretty dank buds,ill ley yall kno how it comes out
 

dtp5150

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Not without adding nutes. Purchased soil is amended and, the right stuff, is not just the [clay, sand, rocks] you have in your local soil. So you will probably need to add more nutes during the plants life.

I could be wrong, but I'm just going by common sense ( if you didnt need high quality base soil, why would he include in the recipe? )
 

cannatricks

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I use much the same set-up that you have. We have a huge compost pile for the house waste and greenhouse waste, and a ton of raised beds that we pack with goat manure and bedding over the witers. I use my deep black earth compost (make sure you run it through a screen first) along with some of the deep composted soil in my planters, with perlite, bat guano, worm castings, sea kelp, mushroom compost, bone meal, blood meal, Agricultural Lime (lots!!!). It took me a few batches to tweak it out right (you'll just have to try it and see, if you want my measurements you can start with those) I find that it is usually runs out of juice around 2-3 weeks into flower, but I keep a batch of compost tea (bat guano, sea kelp, molasses, and a handful of worm castings) that I feed about once a week, after the second week of flower (around 1000PPM's)

I've been doing this for our farm for years, and just started the MMJ this year, after not growing for a few. My grow is all perpetual so when something is off, I can fix the plants that are 2 weeks behind, by watching the ones having problems now. I've been getting more and more dialed in.

Cheers,
 
i always thought clay is what has all the GOOD shit,it juss needs to be amended so the roots can access it
and as for adding nutes ill just add more SS to the base of my plant
 

Gastanker

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Clay has all the important properties but alone provides terrible texture. Clay improves the water holding ability of soil as well as improving the CEC (ability of the soil to hold nutrients). But without sand and silt you'll have terrible drainage and aeration... I like most of the loams (with a preference on clay/silt) as a base amended with organic matter (compost, manure, local humus...) - ratios dependent on the loam. And then add your NPK amendments.
 
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