Can Organic Gardening Feed the world ?

billy4479

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Hi everyone been a little while since I posted here and I have a interesting question . Simple put Can organic gardening feed the world . If we were to give up are conventional farming practices No man made chemicals , pesticides, herbicides , and Fertilizer . Could we feed the world ? All (7,000,000,000) of us ? I would like to hear your thoughts on this .
 

dannyboy602

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Billy the mod...what a wonder thought Billy. So what section do you sweep trash for?
So anywho I think Organic Gardening could feed everyone just has to be a local practice to feed local people. You can't send produce across the globe and not use petro chemicals to some extent. At least I don't think you can. Thoughts?
 

shake&bake

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In 1991 the Canadian government determined that it would take 1 1/2 to 2 1/2 million acres to eliminate foreign oil and for those of you who don't know oil crude oil is processed into fertilizers as well as plastic fuel for cars fuel for heating paraffin waxes
 

shake&bake

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It also has all 9 branch chain amino acids as well as every omega fatty acids more protein than ground beef and plenty of dietary fiber requires less fertilizers pesticides and fungicides and herbicides so yes we just need to start spreading the word almost noone knows about the benefits of hemp people we need to start standing up one plant can take over this government
 

Growan

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Hemp is a ridiculously good product. Pretty much do anything with it.
I think the problem with feeding tbe world organically is that righg now most of china and India are more interested in moving on from the old ways and embracing mcdonalds, starbucks, and anything else that doesn't involve back breaking farm work.
Basically everyone is too fucking lazy too. Big stumbling block...
 

kinetic

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Nope. The world can't be fed as it is now. 2.6 million children die each year from hunger related disease. I don't really see how hemp is going to feed the world either. Have you ever gotten full on eating hemp seeds? If so how much did it take?

Remember organic simply means carbon based. Terpentine is organic, but you wouldn't consume it would you?

However if someone wanted to look at a great model for further development one could look to Cuba. Due to embargos Cuba does not have access to the same pesticides as other places and is much more organic based in it's agricultural processes. Type into google: Cuba and Organic Farming, and do some reading. You will like what you find if you are into organic gardening.

Edit: You should like what you find as a gardener overall as to what Cuba has done. Even if it's just the one plant. You should also like what you find as a human being. The people of Cuba have found a way that doesn't involve the corporatization seeping into every aspect of their lives. That part is intriguing to me. I can't wait to get a better peek into a country that has a very very rich musical history as well.
 
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KLITE

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Its all about the natural endowments every region has. You cant expect certain areas where people live to provide certain essencial produce all year around. Hence some is produced in greater amounts in that region.
With organic farming, in my opinion, if you are really doing it organic and build a good soil over time as well as fine tune for different crops etc plants do better, health wise, than with chemical fertelizers and soil gets depleted and sandy after 4 or 5 years. Its when it comes to pests and etc that it becomes tricky. Back in the day certain areas affected by some wheat plague could literally not have bread all year. This is especially tru when talking about staple produce, not to mention the staple produce of live stock.
In conclusion, i think its not possible, it would be but itd would require a shift in employment patterns and more people becoming vegetarian as well as well efficient local planning.
 

killemsoftly

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I would involve many sacrifices people don't want to make. Less meat. More expensive. Who knows, we could be forced to do it soon enough by some catastrophe. i know i plan on doing a couple plots this year. Might as well. fun hobby.

As kinetic said, Cuba went down this road and not be choice. They adapted.
Hope you get their soon kinetic. They are great people. If you are generous by nature they love baseball. Bats, gloves, etc go down very well as gifts. A friend of mine does this every year. He also does crazy shit like hire a guy with a truck, go to a chicken farm, buys chickens and goes around selling them. It's not ab out the money, he does it for the fun and gives people fantastic deals. He is able to pull this off as he's fluent and can pass as a cuban. I wouldn't: jail cells are not on my itinerary for a vacation.
 

KLITE

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i know i plan on doing a couple plots this year. Might as well. fun hobby.
I started a some years back its more hard work than fun to be honest hehe. But my best advice is if growing small grow things that last a long time and give plenty nutrition and are high yielding like beans or potatoes, that way your hard work will last a while in your cupboard.
 

killemsoftly

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I started a some years back its more hard work than fun to be honest hehe. But my best advice is if growing small grow things that last a long time and give plenty nutrition and are high yielding like beans or potatoes, that way your hard work will last a while in your cupboard.
good advice klite. I plan on doing lotsa tomatoes for sauce and eating fresh. mmmmm
 

kinetic

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good advice klite. I plan on doing lotsa tomatoes for sauce and eating fresh. mmmmm
Growing your own basil and oregano as well? I love growing basil, the last few years I've been doing the mammoth variety. Huge leafs, fun to watch grow. Adds a nice flavor to the sauce as well. A bit stronger and fuller flavor

Edit: Tomatoes love cal/mag especially romas.
 

killemsoftly

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Thank you K,
It's kind of a community thingee.We're starting with seedlings. I'm sure whoever places the order will throw in an assortment of herbs. I would love to be drying a bunch of them in the fall. Basil, rosemary, some mints (in pots though, seen that get out of hand pretty quickly!) and whatever else I can get my paws on. It is work but i enjoy it a lot.
In my view, our relationship with plants is amazing. I love running my hands up a tomato plant and just smelling the air and then my hands. Very soothing. There is this feeling of awe and well being I get around them.
tomatoes seem to be cal-mag pigs. Been saving my eggshells for a while and trying out vermi-composting too.

Happy gardening to all!
 

KLITE

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Since ive become vegetarian im pretty much self sufficient from my farm, also plan on starting a small grwwnhouse for having thoise summere vegetables all year around.
Ye i grow basil and lots of tomatoes too. The tomatoes however dont fill you up. If youre in the northern hemisphere you still have plenty of time to start growing beans or other legumes, those keep you fed all year round. I foliar feed all my plants and only put organic fertelizers in soil to improve soil quality, i find the plants respond much faster to foliar feeding and i dont need to be too worried with putting too much of something in my soil. After all organic farming is all about farming soil not plants. My soil is so fucking amazing right now that when i was plowing a fgew day ago a old bloke passed and said whoa youve put a good manure there. Fact is i havent put anything since last year and let the soil rest for 3 months during winter. If it wasnt rainning id take a picture of my tomatoes seedlings just transplanted outside, the set up looks almost professional with the drip irrigation and plastic sheeting, in my opinion. Pretty pround of it anyways, especially after having had to plow it by hand due to neighbours lack of willingness to lend me his.
 

KLITE

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Thought id mention i dont use any kind of pesticides, only oragnic fungicides like copper sulfate. If i do have a few animals lurking about fuck it let em be no real pest problems here though so what gets lost is not even a fraction of total yield.. I do use this thing called cofidor on my plum and grape trees because of this typoe of flea there is.
 

Nutes and Nugs

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Organic gardening could feed the world if it wasnt for corporate greed.
Just like solar power could provide us all but free power.

Too many people are dependent on oil, pesticides and pharmaceuticals.
We certainly have the knowledge to feed the earth yet big business has it's foot in the door.
 
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