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I was not allowed to isolate our family, as we could not utilize our boat to get to our cottage. Total isolation of the family is safer than living and having to work in the community. Like that's our doomsday home, where we lived in luxury during the great triangle blackout of 2003... oh well followed the order and sacrificed our safety, just like a ton of people feel, for the greater good, or fellow Canadians. We did our part, regardless.
Only reason for the ban was people have been known to cheat.
 

Budley Doright

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Only reason for the ban was people have been known to cheat.
It was enacted to keep pressure off of the local hospitals in cottage country, I believe. Last thing wanted was hordes of city folks moving and threatening the fragile local healthcare system, be it true or false. At the time there was a ton of unknowns. Ya it sucked for some and was a benefit to others, that’s what governments do lol.
 

Cannasaurus Rex

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It was enacted to keep pressure off of the local hospitals in cottage country, I believe. Last thing wanted was hordes of city folks moving and threatening the fragile local healthcare system, be it true or false. At the time there was a ton of unknowns. Ya it sucked for some and was a benefit to others, that’s what governments do lol.
Totally agree. I live in 'cottage country' and somehow many seasonal residents took up permanency, and pushed real estate here to wild new levels, but the doom of hospital overcrowding was so bad, the gov't(s) just closed Minden ER, and the remaining Haliburton hospital is about to declare bankruptcy ? Talk about learning from the mistakes of the past few years, eh? I feel we are less prepared for the next epidemic already. Its easier to deny crucial care when there's only a couple doors to lock, it sucks for everybody. We need a stronger single-tier healthcare system, same for public schools too IMO. Two fucking huge reasons I pay tax for, very willingly.
 

printer

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Totally agree. I live in 'cottage country' and somehow many seasonal residents took up permanency, and pushed real estate here to wild new levels, but the doom of hospital overcrowding was so bad, the gov't(s) just closed Minden ER, and the remaining Haliburton hospital is about to declare bankruptcy ? Talk about learning from the mistakes of the past few years, eh? I feel we are less prepared for the next epidemic already. Its easier to deny crucial care when there's only a couple doors to lock, it sucks for everybody. We need a stronger single-tier healthcare system, same for public schools too IMO. Two fucking huge reasons I pay tax for, very willingly.
I agree on the health care and education.
 

Budley Doright

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Totally agree. I live in 'cottage country' and somehow many seasonal residents took up permanency, and pushed real estate here to wild new levels, but the doom of hospital overcrowding was so bad, the gov't(s) just closed Minden ER, and the remaining Haliburton hospital is about to declare bankruptcy ? Talk about learning from the mistakes of the past few years, eh? I feel we are less prepared for the next epidemic already. Its easier to deny crucial care when there's only a couple doors to lock, it sucks for everybody. We need a stronger single-tier healthcare system, same for public schools too IMO. Two fucking huge reasons I pay tax for, very willingly.
Our two hospitals are stressed to the max (Kingston). Is it due to lack of need that are causing these issues re Minden etc.?
 

CANON_Grow

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Our two hospitals are stressed to the max (Kingston). Is it due to lack of need that are causing these issues re Minden etc.?
Not because of a lack of need, this is and has always been the planned destruction of public health care. Now there is no other choice except to let private corporations make bank.

November 2019 Ford passes Bill 124 which caps the wages of nurses as well as personal support workers – including those who work in LTC homes. Why would Ford do this? Perhaps, because he’s getting advice from former PC Premier Mike Harris who not only held over $7 million in stock in Chartwell long-term care homes as recently as 2019 but also collects $240 K/year as chair of Chartwell’s board of directors.
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November 2020 – For-profit homes like those run by Mike Harris prove to be more deadly than publicly-run long-term care homes. Doug Ford doubles-down on for-profit homes anyway and even introduces legislation that protects these businesses from negligence lawsuits.
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August 2022 – As the nursing shortage caused by Bill 124 grows ever more dramatic, health care workers begin sounding the alarm about increasing public spending on temporary nurses from private agencies which often charge over $100/hour for their nurses. Ottawa Citizen. Bill 124, which Ford always defended as a cost-saving measure is actually costing taxpayers MORE in many cases while also allowing private nursing agencies to rake in profits by filling nursing shortages. It turns out one of these for-profit nursing agencies happens to be run by Laura Harris, Mike Harris’ wife.
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December 2022 – Ford reduces the fees OHIP pays for online consultations. This wipes out the public alternatives to for-profit digital health platform, Maple, which is partially owned by Shoppers Drug Mart – and therefore Galen Weston.
 

Budley Doright

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Not because of a lack of need, this is and has always been the planned destruction of public health care. Now there is no other choice except to let private corporations make bank.

November 2019 Ford passes Bill 124 which caps the wages of nurses as well as personal support workers – including those who work in LTC homes. Why would Ford do this? Perhaps, because he’s getting advice from former PC Premier Mike Harris who not only held over $7 million in stock in Chartwell long-term care homes as recently as 2019 but also collects $240 K/year as chair of Chartwell’s board of directors.
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November 2020 – For-profit homes like those run by Mike Harris prove to be more deadly than publicly-run long-term care homes. Doug Ford doubles-down on for-profit homes anyway and even introduces legislation that protects these businesses from negligence lawsuits.
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August 2022 – As the nursing shortage caused by Bill 124 grows ever more dramatic, health care workers begin sounding the alarm about increasing public spending on temporary nurses from private agencies which often charge over $100/hour for their nurses. Ottawa Citizen. Bill 124, which Ford always defended as a cost-saving measure is actually costing taxpayers MORE in many cases while also allowing private nursing agencies to rake in profits by filling nursing shortages. It turns out one of these for-profit nursing agencies happens to be run by Laura Harris, Mike Harris’ wife.
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December 2022 – Ford reduces the fees OHIP pays for online consultations. This wipes out the public alternatives to for-profit digital health platform, Maple, which is partially owned by Shoppers Drug Mart – and therefore Galen Weston.
He is a slime ball
and needs to go to jail
 

Cannasaurus Rex

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Is it due to lack of need that are causing these issues re Minden etc.?
Understaffing and board mismanagement according to the "Save the Minden ER" taxpayers movement. The board is hiding behind closed door meetings and refuse to engage the public, while our PC mpp is more concerned about selfies (just like jt) and the old line the board has been doing whats right for the people, the province supports improvement of services. So the people have spoke and continue to boo her lustfully when she ruins a Christmas parade. Gathering on their 10's of thousands of signatures on various petitions, waiting for (I guess Crombie) to come to the rescue with a good reverse-privatization plan. Fingers crossed.
Ontario libs have lots of time to craft a plan, as you can ignore what Ford says, and remind peeps of what he's done, and tried to do...
I'm sure he has a plan, so take the high road, ignore the pariah, and get Ontario working again. I have hope and its my vote to lose.
Have at 'er libs, the slight shift in Toronto is going swimmingly and we all have 3 shining examples of how NOT to use power. Let's get better, huh?
Something more substantive than Beat Ford. Um we're hurting here...you know...us citizens...the funders of the shitshow...hello, we're broke...Santa?
 

Cannasaurus Rex

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He is a slime ball
Didn't he invest like 2 decades ago? Well, see common sense of the day was to battle union control of government funded services. War with the public service union and healthcare funding. The province worked very well under his reign and he had support of the people. Laying plans for ones financial future is one of the prime reasons polits run. I didn't agree with the flat rate funding model for doctors being crushed, being a mechanic who has worked in flat rate, as that is the number one cause of doctor shortages since Harris. Libs never changed it...they just lowered foreign practitioners requirements for certification...
 

Cannasaurus Rex

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1702393396490.png This just popped into FB (among the new semi-nude post proliferation??). Seems to me we're putting the bandaids on backwards again, give someone else a needle? I'm out, but I could be fined and reprimanded if I don't comply, my employer could fire me for not participating in the gov't mandated program. I was willing to get fired for not allowing the gov't to inject me, now I must do this to an unwilling stranger? Truly a clownworld. This is the leading edge thinking spawned by the DARE program generation, with a pass-the-buck responsibility response.
 

Ozumoz66

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View attachment 5350781 This just popped into FB (among the new semi-nude post proliferation??). Seems to me we're putting the bandaids on backwards again, give someone else a needle? I'm out, but I could be fined and reprimanded if I don't comply, my employer could fire me for not participating in the gov't mandated program. I was willing to get fired for not allowing the gov't to inject me, now I must do this to an unwilling stranger? Truly a clownworld. This is the leading edge thinking spawned by the DARE program generation, with a pass-the-buck responsibility response.
If you were trained to perform CPR, would you in a time of need?
 

OldMedUser

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I would rather stick a needle in someone unconscious than put my lips on most people and blow. Mind you, one of the guys that I worked with saved another worker's life when he gave him CPR.
The last time out of 4 times I've taken the basic first aid course with CPR they don't do the mouth breathing part anymore. There is enough air moved in and out via the compressions that it isn't needed.

I think everyone should take that course work related or not. You just never know when it could come in handy. I've never had to CPR anyone but have stepped in a couple of times for bandaging up wounds and helped an old guy that fell and hit his head and got knocked out in a mall. I'll be that old guy next and hope some bystander knows what to do.

As to the naloxone my #2 son has been saved by it a couple times and has saved a couple of friends, (fiends?), with it too. These days they're mixing in stuff that the naloxone won't work on.

Stick to pot and stay alive!

:peace:
 

Cannasaurus Rex

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If you were trained to perform CPR, would you in a time of need?
I have basic cpr training, and would attempt if warranted, i know how and had to administer a heimlich manuevre, so yes obviously, at my discretion.
I would rather stick a needle in someone unconscious than put my lips on most people and blow.
Totally agree with anyones' misgivings. I chose to educate myself with CPR and Heimlich. I won't use a defibrilator nor inject anyone with anything without their consent as an individual. I would take an epipen from an individual having an obvious allergic reaction and inject that, but that's the only case for me.
 

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And it is not even that cold yet. Hope we do not have any die this year thinking crossing the prairie in winter will be a walk in the park.

4 people found illegally crossing border in Manitoba, 1 suffering from weather exposure
A man was sent to hospital with serious weather-related injuries after illegally crossing into Canada at the Manitoba-U.S. border with a group of people.

The RCMP received a report of four people crossing the border near Emerson, about 100 kilometres south of Winnipeg, around 7:15 a.m. on Saturday.
Police found the four men, who are from Chad in north-central Africa, in two separate buildings in town, RCMP spokesperson Tara Seel said Tuesday.
One of the men was suffering from exposure to the weather.

The temperature at the time was only –5 C but a storm was passing through, pushing the wind gusts to 56 km/h and making the temperature feel more like –16 with the wind chill on exposed skin, Environment Canada said.

RCMP patrolled the area, looking for any others crossing into Canada, but no one else was found.

"We have previously discussed the safety concerns of crossing between the ports during inclement weather. The RCMP continues to remind everyone that winter weather can quickly prove deadly," the RCMP said in a news release.

In January 2022, a family of four from India — parents and two children — died while trying to cross the border into the U.S. near Emerson.
While border officials in the U.S. have reported a sharp rise in unauthorized crossings from Manitoba to North Dakota, the same has not been seen recently for those going north.

The number of northbound crossers has dropped since peaking in 2017, Seel said.
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Cannasaurus Rex

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It really is hard to imagine risking family on a dirty stranger with a brochure from a country you have no idea of. I wish we could afford to judge each individual on the merits of his illegal entry, on the spot. Alas, we have to have some kind of balance with our own domestic citizen refugee (homeless) situation. Sadly it is very hard to solve the problems when most of the equations numbers are deemed unknown by (most recently) virtue-signalling politics and band-aids. Even mentioning raw migration data vs. homelessness in the same sentence 'triggers' a ton of 'troop movement' per se.
 
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