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djruiner

djruiner

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CRAVETHERAVE said:
I don't really think I belong here being a first timer but just curious on information, so really i'm here to take information and not be able to give much back lol.

So if UVB is proven to give more potent yields, why isn't very one on this and getting UVB lights?
What is the UVB of a normal CFL or other lights?

I'm tempted to buy http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/15W-COMPACT-UV-LIGHT5-0-UVB-ES-SCREW-FIT-REPTILES-/300559907384?pt=UK_Pet_Supplies_Reptiles_Spiders_Insects&hash=item45fac43a38#ht_565wt_905
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for the same reason people claim to get amazing yields from LED...most people do not understand lighting...most people think more is best...cant calculate lumens needed pure square foot...or know whats needed to cool certain lights. its all about recreating the sun indoors. and the sun contains a large amount of UVB rays. most lights put off little to none of best spectrum of total light....its not just about the light you can see with your eyes. HPS, MH, CFL, none of contain enough UVB to help trich production...a CMH light setup would cover all your needs...or can supplement other lighting with UVB reptile lights. most people think "just pack it with a ton of bright lights and thats all you need" which isnt the case. a lot of it comes down to research...half of the new growers come to this site and read 1/4 of a thread and take all they see as facts...if people would look outside the black market marijuana underground and research simple botany...they would learn a thousand times more info elsewhere.
 
cannawizard

cannawizard

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djruiner said:
for the same reason people claim to get amazing yields from LED...most people do not understand lighting...most people think more is best...cant calculate lumens needed pure square foot...or know whats needed to cool certain lights. its all about recreating the sun indoors. and the sun contains a large amount of UVB rays. most lights put off little to none of best spectrum of total light....its not just about the light you can see with your eyes. HPS, MH, CFL, none of contain enough UVB to help trich production...a CMH light setup would cover all your needs...or can supplement other lighting with UVB reptile lights. most people think "just pack it with a ton of bright lights and thats all you need" which isnt the case. a lot of it comes down to research...half of the new growers come to this site and read 1/4 of a thread and take all they see as facts...if people would look outside the black market marijuana underground and research simple botany...they would learn a thousand times more info elsewhere.
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*well im glad your around Dj :) , couldnt have said it better myself. ive only recently started doing outdoor projects, and "wow" ---nothing beats the Sun. You cannot replicate that indoors (well technically, not yet) .. Like Dj stated, dont take all info on these sites FOR GRANTED, do your own research--- :)

*http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/15W-COMPACT-UV-LIGHT5-0-UVB-ES-SCREW-FIT-REPTILES-/300559907384?pt=UK_Pet_Supplies_Reptiles_Spiders_Insects&hash=item45fac43a38#ht_565wt_905
--you would need atleast 2 of these to get some sort of UVB reaction from your plants, or try getting one of the bulbs that have "10.0".. cheers
 
cannawizard

cannawizard

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*UVB does NOT improve yields

*UVB will intensify ANY CANNABIS plants "high" --and stimulates more thc sites --you get more sticky bling, but potency will remain the same (like if your strain was ibuprofen, and you used UVb, it wont turn it into vicodin --did that make sense? :P ..

***i do not want everyone buying reptile bulbs to supplement UVB, there other mediums --tanning lights --hospital uvb/vitamin D+ lights --CMHs --ETC --ETC
***AND this thread is about UV-b R-E-S-E-A-R-C-H , Im not here to advertise UVB or even condone the use of UVB (unless you know WHAT YOUR DOING), just wanted to get in touch with those who are actively studying UVB and CANNABIS :)


...its a lovely day outside, time to enjoy some long board sessions
 
cannawizard

cannawizard

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CRAVETHERAVE said:
I don't really think I belong here being a first timer but just curious on information, so really i'm here to take information and not be able to give much back lol.

So if UVB is proven to give more potent yields, why isn't very one on this and getting UVB lights?
What is the UVB of a normal CFL or other lights?

I'm tempted to buy http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/15W-COMPACT-UV-LIGHT5-0-UVB-ES-SCREW-FIT-REPTILES-/300559907384?pt=UK_Pet_Supplies_Reptiles_Spiders_Insects&hash=item45fac43a38#ht_565wt_905
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* sorry bud, UVB is not proven to give more potent yields (--it will alter the 'effect' or 'high' as you would call it and you get more resin, but the THC+ potency is unchanged., (but even that science isn't really concrete, still needs more attention from PHDs in labs)

* But GOOD NEWS, i am making a list of strains that are UV-b "hogs", .. my lil contribution to the green community
 
cannawizard

cannawizard

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*good reading from the link above, --cheers



In Reply to: O.K., but does U.V. content change genetics? posted by Uncle Ben Dejo on December 25,
1998 at 18:35:34 PT: I think it is a problem that has been developing through the generations. Wernard of [Positronics] was
aware of it being a problem and now Greenhouse seem to be taking it on board. I haven't read Tom
Flowers but high elevation plants that have been there for generations are high in thc but more
importantly it is a lot more complex. On a short term basis a clone from a known variety Indica type
will have a slightly more up high with the addition of uv during flowering but Sativas seem to improve
a lot more with a much clearer up high. I would suggest that if breeding for seed indoors the addition
of uv a/b tubes as supplementary lighting would help to improve the stock a lot . Your plants getting
some real sun would probably allow them to express the potential of that generation. You can easily
test this If you make a number of cuttings from a mum and grow half with sodium only and
supplement the other half with sun when you can, I think you will find quite a difference between the
two stones the more sat in the var the bigger the difference. Ot1.
 
cannawizard

cannawizard

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:dunce: high guys :bigjoint:

welcome to the Doo-Doo & Germs Cafe:leaf:

nutes: using 100% organic ol' natural (doo-doo)
---this will be a mix of self-made DIY & premades (like soil soup, etc)

what wont be discussed here:::

pH: no need, its ol'natural
ppM: whats that? ..lol..

----got my own recipe going, still in beta ---not here to sell anything, once its finished-- it will be like open-source (free to all)
tested medium: (45/50gL smart pots) filled with (fox farms ocean forest)
feeding: the plants are watered every 1-2days thru drip. just keeping medium moist---not soggy.
**this was outdoor

--cheers
 
cannawizard

cannawizard

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--okie dokes, back on the grind..

*well lets, see.. ahh yes, new news :P
so far since working with some new heads have turned up some promising results..

(imagine THC+ as some sort of material that reflects uv-B & at the same time, also stores/absorbs those uv-B rays.. something like a battery, but not quite :\ )
we are seeing that the "increased high" experienced by tokers toking on uv-B'd nuggz, might be a direct result of 'energy' release b/c of combustion (bic+bowl=poof) ..smirk
again.. all hypothetical mumbo, nothing is certain just yet.. we might just be too high, Lol

--cheers
 
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