Can't figure out the problem from the sticky's - please help

Hey guys and girls

I'm new to growing. I've tried finding what may be the ongoing cause of this problem, but haven't come across any definitive answers yet. The affected plant has kind of bumpy textured leaves, which are normal coloured on the outside but lighter on the inner leaf.

I have 3 plants, 2 of which seem to be doing great. Growing indoors under a 400w HPS, in soil. 4 weeks into veg.

I had problems keeping temp down on hot days, but that is mostly fixed (except when temp outside exceeds 30deg) although still normal temp is up near 27deg celsius often which I've read is maximum. Other plants displayed signs of heat stress until recently, when I made some changes to try and fix this. This plant hasn't grown much, or condition improved since then. The other plants never displayed the same characteristics.

The other variable is that 2 of my 3 plants have earthworms in the soil - I had to top up my soil from the garden and it had worms in it, but I figured what the hell, they do good things for my veges why not my weed. Not positive this is the plant that doesn't have them, but this is my theory as to the inconsistency between the 3 plants.

I just grabbed a leaf from the affected plant, and a junior leaf from one of the healthy ones. Also a bad pic of the plant away from the grow lights.

Please help - thanks

That looks like mosaic virus. I've never personally seen it in weed but that's exactly what it looks like.

TMG Genetics said:

That looks like mosaic virus. I've never personally seen it in weed but that's exactly what it looks like.

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Not trying to bait or taunt but if you have never ween it on weed then why do you think it looks like thie pics posted by OP? I have seen TMV on weed and it didn't look like that. His may be strain related. OP doesn't say nute schedule if any and I would be interested in knowing if he/she fed, what they fed if they did.

Nute schedule would help a bunch. I am curious to know how much ammoniacal nitrogen they are being fed.

hotrodharley said:

Not trying to bait or taunt but if you have never ween it on weed then why do you think it looks like thie pics posted by OP? I have seen TMV on weed and it didn't look like that. His may be strain related. OP doesn't say nute schedule if any and I would be interested in knowing if he/she fed, what they fed if they did.

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The characteristics of a disease or infestation are relatively universal, regardless of the infected species..that's like saying a disease in a Asian guy looks different than the same disease in a White guy.

I can honestly say that there's no way this is any typical malnourishment or lack of nutes or some wild ph swing, very likely it is some rare disease, which I've never heard of the previously mentioned affliction.

Alexander Supertramp said:

Nute schedule would help a bunch. I am curious to know how much ammoniacal nitrogen they are being fed.

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Thanks, I have been feeding every 3 days, with a 35-15-55 grow food, with a product called Growzilla.

I'll do some research anyway on the virus, thanks.
Definitely that pic has similarities.

Also - more information, the strain I am growing is aurora indica, from a seed bank

strain varient nutrient burn or id say since u brough dirt in from outside a bug inside the dirt may have transfered disease to your plant.

tommygunz69 said:

Thanks, I have been feeding every 3 days, with a 35-15-55 grow food, with a product called Growzilla.

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Whats the name of the 35-15-55? I would like to look it up and find its contents.

Alexander Supertramp said:

Whats the name of the 35-15-55? I would like to look it up and find its contents.

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Its called Growzilla. I cant find much on the web, but its a pretty popular product in new zealand

No it has got htter than that bro probably about 30 + . The 'blistering' on top is due to heat /light intensity from the 400w and room temps.

I'm going with N toxicity, this is all I could find on growzilla and it even says it's high in N, those numbers are huge for a grow formula.

Growzilla is very high in nitrogen and other trace elements that promote high levels of lush vegetative growth and increase root mass and resilience giving you bigger, healthier growth and strong resistance to pests. Growzilla is formulated from the finest grades of mineral salts and chelated trace elements to give you optimum growth from your hydroponic plants.

Thats what I have been thinking also. Guess its N source is made up of a lot of ammonia. Causing some N toxicity and blocking the uptake of some other nutrients. I dont think its heat related physically as there are no other signs of heat stress. Like tips upturned, margins curling ect...but if temps are to high in the grow area that can certainly exacerbate the possible ammonia issue.

Alexander Supertramp said:

Thats what I have been thinking also. Guess its N source is made up of a lot of ammonia. Causing some N toxicity and blocking the uptake of some other nutrients. I dont think its heat related physically as there are no other signs of heat stress. Like tips upturned, margins curling ect...but if temps are to high in the grow area that can certainly exacerbate the possible ammonia issue.

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Thanks guys, I will give it straight water for a bit, and then if it starts recovering maybe try something a bit lighter - some general purpose 12-3-6 plant food I use in the garden maybe?

The stunted growth has become quite remarkable in comparison to the other two plants in two weeks, it is about half the size of the other two, when before it was the biggest.

Looking to switch over to flowering in 2 weeks or so, so I hope it recovers!


Appreciate all the help