Can't figure out why she's drooping! Any help?

Hi All,

I've read through tons of FAQs and threads and can't seem to find one that looks exactly like my problem. If anyone would like to lend me some experience and point my in the right direction I would be very appreciative!

How long has this problem been going on?
1 month
Are you growing in a PVC grow tent? (example: Hydrohut or any other non brand tents)
DIY grow cabinet
What system are you running? (DWC? Ebb flow? Aero? Water Farm? Flood Tables? and so on...)
Hand-watered
What STRAIN are you growing?
Australian Blue (sativa)
What was the establishing technique? (Were the seed or clone?)
Clones
What is the age of your plants?
6 months
How long have they been in there mixture they are in now?(coco,soiless etc..)
6 months
How tall are the plants?
3'
What PHASE are the plants in? (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in?
Vegetative
What Technique are you using?
Hempy Bucket
What substrate/medium are you using?(Hydroton, RockWool etc.)
85% perlite 15% hydroton
What is the Water temperature?
room temp
What color are your roots? White? Brown? Are your roots slimy?
mostly white
What Nutrient's are you using?(If growing soiless)
General Hydroponics nutrients; FloraGrow 2-1-6, FloraMicro 5-0-1, and Florabloom 0-5-4 per manufacturer's instructions.
How much of each nutrient are you using with how much water? *Knowing the brand is very helpful*
How often are you feeding? (If using soiless)
2/day
How often are you giving nutrients? (If using soiless)
Each watering
What is the TDS/EC/PPM you are using?
Recently flushed for 2 days, now at 400 ppm
What is the pH of the "Tank"?
5.8
Are you sure your calibration is correct on your equiptment?
Pretty sure
When was your last watering?
12 hours ago
What is your water temps?
room temp
What size bulb are you using?
400W HPS
What is the distance to the canopy?
5 - 6"
What is your RH Factor(Relative Humidity)?
40-50%
What is the canopy temperature?
mid to high eighties
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include flucutaion range)
mid sixties to high eighties
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.)
about 200 cfm
Tell us about your ventilation, intake exhaust and when its running and not running ?
venting 24/7
Is the fan blowing directly at plants?
yes across the tops
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water?
Bottled distilled.
Are you using water from a water softener?
no
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned off of or pinched
pruned it of dead and dying leaves
Are plant's infected with pest's
fungus gnats

My problem is that the leaves are always droopy. I have looked through lots of pictures, but none seem to look the same. Only about a week ago, they were droopy and were forming "claws." I determined it was probably N toxicity and so after flushing it stopped. Unfortunately the droopiness has not. Also, the way the leaves looks is a bit off. The texture is really rough and not smooth like the other pictures I've seen here. If you look at the pictures, you can see that each leaf looks like its covered with like ridges.

I was wondering if temperature and distance to the light are two separate issues? I.e., Can your plants be extremely close if the temp is okay or will it fuck up the plants just because it's too close?

Thanks... pictures below.

Maybe your rez is too full and they are over watered? I do hempy also but let the rez get just about dry before watering them again.

Boneman said:

Maybe your rez is too full and they are over watered? I do hempy also but let the rez get just about dry before watering them again.

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Over watering could definetly do it. could be curling toward the light, and for soil Im pretty sure you should have a 6-7 ph. but i don't think thats the problem anyway.

Boneman said:

Maybe your rez is too full and they are over watered? I do hempy also but let the rez get just about dry before watering them again.

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Hi Boneman,

Thanks for your advice. I don't think it's over-watering because that's been my problem since the start and I'm pretty stingy with feeding. My hempy buckets are just juice bottles that are wrapped with alum foil so I usually water by ear (so to speak) by peeling back the foil and making sure its pretty dry before feeding them again (typically I make sure there's no more free flowing liquid at in the reservoir).

I have a new idea that it's due to too much water loss. Can a fan blowing directly on the plant cause too much transpiration of moisture? I've turned off my fan for the day and will report back tomorrow. Many thanks!

Okay, so I'm pretty sure that the cause of the wilting was the fan. I think the fan blowing directly on the plants was just drawing off too much moisture. The wilting I described above did not look like wilting from underwatering, which is what made me think of over transpiration. In the couple of days I have the fan blowing next to the plants, they seem to have really perked up!

Now on to my last problem... the texture of the leaves. Can anyone help me figure out what is causing the leaves to look so rough and "ridgey"? Instead of the smooth leaves I see on grow logs here, my leaves are very pale and the veins on the leaves are like little valleys. From the pictures above, you can really see that the veins are very deeply set compared to the "skin" in between the veins. No FAQs I have checked out seem to have that problem. Any pros here have a clue? Throw me a bone, please!

Many Thanks!