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Romis

Romis

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thenotsoesoteric said:
I feel you but its definitely not worth it to me.
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Don't knock it till you try it. Just signing up alone you get exclusive gear plus $200 worth of extra gear.
Then you get early access to his beans.

Just signing up for the bean basement you get his insight and grow techniques.

thenotsoesoteric said:
Im sure in real life, face to face, Cap is a straight up dude. I just got jaded from his IG presence back a couple years ago when he was crying about folks selling/using his Mac cut but dude still had lines stretching around the block to buy his beans.

Who cares what ours are doing with a cut you released if you're still selling out packs at $150+?

Shit I'd be proud if everyone in the seed world was running my tarts cut or anything I made. But thats just me.

I can't knock any of his gear because it all seems solid and he does take pride in his work.
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I understand where you're coming from but you have to understand the origin of MAC1 and the rules that came with it.
The MAC1 was suppose to be only "gifted" to other growers with passion.
It's a special strain that's been used and abused. Money won over integrity.

If you gifted a special cut and told people only to gift it to growers they felt deserved it ... only to find out everyone and their momma's is selling it, wouldn't you be mad?

I'm not a big fan of MAC1 (got it from Jungle Boys and wasn't impressed) but CAP as a breeder is top notch because he actually tests his genetics and gives AF.

Ex. He's thinking about doing a "Cap's Cup" an inclusive breeders challenge where he tests everyone's beans (8 top breeders) and let's the people decide who's winner in a blind taste test.
 
CaliWorthington

CaliWorthington

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My homie brought some Mac Stomper from the dispensary. It's good, but not hype inspiring to me. I'd rather have a good OG, sour, cookies or skunk. I'm sure MAC is better when fresh, this batch could be a little old, who knows? I can kinda see what Archive said on IG about it tasting like White Widow terps. I wonder if this strain because a thing because this latest generation of smokers/growers never tried WW? The frosting looks similar too, though this flower is more gold than white. I'm running some Sundae Stomper seeds from Sunken Treasure now.

OK I took a few more hits, I'm getting the cookies aftertaste now, so I guess that's kinda miraculous.
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Crunchyjeezy

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thenotsoesoteric said:
Im sure in real life, face to face, Cap is a straight up dude. I just got jaded from his IG presence back a couple years ago when he was crying about folks selling/using his Mac cut but dude still had lines stretching around the block to buy his beans.

Who cares what ours are doing with a cut you released i
Romis said:
Don't knock it till you try it. Just signing up alone you get exclusive gear plus $200 worth of extra gear.
Then you get early access to his beans.

Just signing up for the bean basement you get his insight and grow techniques.



I understand where you're coming from but you have to understand the origin of MAC1 and the rules that came with it.
The MAC1 was suppose to be only "gifted" to other growers with passion.
It's a special strain that's been used and abused. Money won over integrity.

If you gifted a special cut and told people only to gift it to growers they felt deserved it ... only to find out everyone and their momma's is selling it, wouldn't you be mad?

I'm not a big fan of MAC1 (got it from Jungle Boys and wasn't impressed) but CAP as a breeder is top notch because he actually tests his genetics and gives AF.

Ex. He's thinking about doing a "Cap's Cup" an inclusive breeders challenge where he tests everyone's beans (8 top breeders) and let's the people decide who's winner in a blind taste test.
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Wasnt impressed either Mac 1 is weak. I don't buy his story of it's origins either. Colombian my ass
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We Can Make Sandwiches

We Can Make Sandwiches

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Crunchyjeezy said:
Wasnt impressed either Mac 1 is weak. I don't buy his story of it's origins either. Colombian my ass
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Ive said this before..and I will say it again..used to test for jaws..ive grown alien cookies..MAC1 ...it just looks like alien cookies pheno...lol.

There were like 4 different alien cookies release by jaws.. #4, #5 #7 #9 (i believe) . Different phenos hit with same pollen.

Anyone remember which cap used? Was it #7? (80% sure it was)

Whatever it was il f2 alien cookies packs i got and bobs ur uncle
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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Romis said:
How much more of a difference is it from non puosu members?
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thenotsoesoteric said:
Yeah bit you have to finish a grow to get full access and have to pay to sign up for marketplace.

Im cool off that
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Bakersfield said:
I know a lot of folks have contempt for Cap, but he seems to be very fair and intelligent person, even though he deleted my "big cola - big penis" comment on his IG post ranting about how big colas are inferior to smaller colas. :lol:

Haters gonna Hate
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thenotsoesoteric said:
Im sure in real life, face to face, Cap is a straight up dude. I just got jaded from his IG presence back a couple years ago when he was crying about folks selling/using his Mac cut but dude still had lines stretching around the block to buy his beans.

Who cares what ours are doing with a cut you released if you're still selling out packs at $150+?

Shit I'd be proud if everyone in the seed world was running my tarts cut or anything I made. But thats just me.

I can't knock any of his gear because it all seems solid and he does take pride in his work.
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It's not that tricky to finish a PUOSU grow to get full access to the site, and frankly I'm glad Cap has that requirement. It keeps the sock puppets and trolls out. That said, the site is much larger once you finish a grow log. I don't really interact with Cap there, but he has some super informed members who share info. It's worth it to me that I finished a log there and have full site access, but I never joined the dirt letter, it just didn't seem worth it for me.

As far as Cap on IG, I really can barely stand him there. He can be an arrogant prick to say the least.
 
Bakersfield

Bakersfield

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PJ Diaz said:
It's not that tricky to finish a PUOSU grow to get full access to the site, and frankly I'm glad Cap has that requirement. It keeps the sock puppets and trolls out. That said, the site is much larger once you finish a grow log. I don't really interact with Cap there, but he has some super informed members who share info. It's worth it to me that I finished a log there and have full site access, but I never joined the dirt letter, it just didn't seem worth it for me.

As far as Cap on IG, I really can barely stand him there. He can be an arrogant prick to say the least.
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I've got about 3 weeks left on my grow log, damn Diesel cross is going to take 12 weeks.
 
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1littlesoldier1

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you know what they say. Once an arrogant prick always an arrogant prick, lol. Anyways props to him for his mac and cheese. Was some of the best weed out there but why is he making a version 2 of his mac strain? Is it because he lost/gave up on his original? Anyways very expensive seeds to say the least and hoping he makes more mac and cheese with the EXACT SAME parents and not go the other breeders route where they tell you its the same strain but it aint. Honesty is lacking BIG TIME in this F up world of GREED.
 
thenotsoesoteric

thenotsoesoteric

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1littlesoldier1 said:
you know what they say. Once an arrogant prick always an arrogant prick, lol. Anyways props to him for his mac and cheese. Was some of the best weed out there but why is he making a version 2 of his mac strain? Is it because he lost/gave up on his original? Anyways very expensive seeds to say the least and hoping he makes more mac and cheese with the EXACT SAME parents and not go the other breeders route where they tell you its the same strain but it aint. Honesty is lacking BIG TIME in this F up world of GREED.
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He is doing a mac v2 because he swore up and down he would never recreate the mac, lol. But he wants those long lines around the block like the Cookies fam had with their drops.

He knows those mac v2 packs will sell out fast at $200 a pop.
 
Romulanman

Romulanman

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What does PUOSU stand for? How much is this dirt letter fee to get into the bean basement? Marketplace? Like a online seedbank forum? Is this a place where average people sell or established breeders? Sounds confusing.
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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Romulanman said:
What does PUOSU stand for? How much is this dirt letter fee to get into the bean basement? Marketplace? Like a online seedbank forum? Is this a place where average people sell or established breeders? Sounds confusing.
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Learning1234 said:
In athletics PUOSU was always “Put Up or Shut Up.” You’d have some meathead coach screaming that shit in the weight room a lot. Ha.
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That's what it means on Cap's forum. It doesn't cost anything to be on the Bean Basement, it only costs to get on the Market, but you also get "free beans" with your $300 fee.
 
Romulanman

Romulanman

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PJ Diaz said:
That's what it means on Cap's forum. It doesn't cost anything to be on the Bean Basement, it only costs to get on the Market, but you also get "free beans" with your $300 fee.
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Quick rundown. Ok so the bean basement is the free forum. It costs $300 to sign up for the marketplace and you get to choose 2 packs of beans from his list and one pack picked by Cap. So basically $100 a pack.
Where does the grow log come into play? Does that have to be completed to view the marketplace as well as the paid fee?
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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Romulanman said:
Quick rundown. Ok so the bean basement is the free forum. It costs $300 to sign up for the marketplace and you get to choose 2 packs of beans from his list and one pack picked by Cap. So basically $100 a pack.
Where does the grow log come into play? Does that have to be completed to view the marketplace as well as the paid fee?
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thenotsoesoteric said:
$300 fee! Man what a crock.
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I guess the price went up. $380/year now..

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Romulanman

Romulanman

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PJ Diaz said:
I guess the price went up. $380/year now..

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Holy shit this is yearly??! Jesus christ. To me it looks more like a way to just sell beans. He can make even more money cause he's dealing directly to customers, cutting the seedbank right out. Now you cant just charge money to join a forum, that would be insane. Buuuut what if you offered "free" beans to compensate? Well, you get customers that basically see it as buying beans the same as they would any other time plus access to an underground market. Its alluring to some I bet.
In more simpler terms he's forcing you to buy his seeds to be a part of his marketplace. No thanks especially at almost $400 a year. :spew:
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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Romulanman said:
Holy shit this is yearly??! Jesus christ. To me it looks more like a way to just sell beans. He can make even more money cause he's dealing directly to customers, cutting the seedbank right out. Now you cant just charge money to join a forum, that would be insane. Buuuut what if you offered "free" beans to compensate? Well, you get customers that basically see it as buying beans the same as they would any other time plus access to an underground market. Its alluring to some I bet.
In more simpler terms he's forcing you to buy his seeds to be a part of his marketplace. No thanks especially at almost $400 a year. :spew:
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I didn't find it to be something worth investing my money in either. But the Bean Basement is free.
 
LeftOurEyes

LeftOurEyes

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Romulanman said:
Holy shit this is yearly??! Jesus christ. To me it looks more like a way to just sell beans. He can make even more money cause he's dealing directly to customers, cutting the seedbank right out.
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I mean it was a deal the first round, but also a hassle and I passed on it myself as well. The first round it was $300 to sign up for the dirt letter. With that came 3 packs of seeds, two you could choose from and one that CAP chose (so the seeds were half off normal price). I think there was a couple of free gifts like a hat or something else too.

Some things kinda annoyed me though like he opened sign up on Christmas Day and I believe it was only 24hrs. A lot of people were complaining that they were busy and broke from Christmas and wanted him to wait. You had to sign up for the bean basement and for the dirt letter both and had to have the same screen name and passwords (He was complaining about going through emails all day to sort this out with people). I didn't really want CAP to choose one pack for me because I might already have one of the strains he would have picked. This could be good but maybe not. Of the two you could pick yourself, you could not pick doubles which some want to do to pheno hunt.

This seemed like a loot of hoops to jump through unless you REALLY loved CAPs gear or just wanted to try some of his packs out for cheaper if you haven't already. For people who were looking to get a few packs of specific stuff then this was probably not for you or worth the hassle.

And really it was a decent deal and all, but on CAP's end it sounds like he was selling them close to what he always does anyway if you figure he splits about half the money with seedbanks. Now that those people have access to his marketplace I assume he charges the normal $200 for his packs to them after the dirt letter sign up. Now he's doubling his money on people's future purchases since he is charging full price with no middle man.
 
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