Carrying In Promix This Year! Any One Do This?

Smidge34

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Been guerrilla farming for years from horseback. Damn horse figures out where every plant is located along a 2 mile trail and makes the trek, while stopping at every plant without being told. Happens every year.
 

Sunbiz1

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Question for you guys doing full soil replacement.

Are these holes being lined with plastic?.

I ask b/c part of my issue on in-ground plantings are the numerous native plants sharing all the medium we use.

Drove me nuts last summer until I finally figured out I had to triple the amount of granular nutes...which became expensive.
 

dopeydog

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for myself no, the plant roots will outgrow my hole and spread big. i had always thought it would be putting a limit on my plant like a pot would. also i worry what a week of rain would do in that set up as we get a week straight sometimes here.
if you put plants out a foot or two tall they will outcompete anything in my area for grow space. i may pull a couple weeds but a few weeds helps to blend in.
im also in an area where i must grow on the super sly and hate the way the bags look when i look at grows like say browndirtwarrior. to me it just seems like a nasty piece of plastic and sticks out. for others it must work. sorry to mention browndirt in a negative manner he gets it done and i've nothing but respect.
 

Sunbiz1

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for myself no, the plant roots will outgrow my hole and spread big. i had always thought it would be putting a limit on my plant like a pot would. also i worry what a week of rain would do in that set up as we get a week straight sometimes here.
if you put plants out a foot or two tall they will outcompete anything in my area for grow space. i may pull a couple weeds but a few weeds helps to blend in.
im also in an area where i must grow on the super sly and hate the way the bags look when i look at grows like say browndirtwarrior. to me it just seems like a nasty piece of plastic and sticks out. for others it must work. sorry to mention browndirt in a negative manner he gets it done and i've nothing but respect.
Yes, but the competition causes some serious stretch...like these from last summer. The bottom halves had so few flowers I wound-up lollipopping all of them:

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Sunbiz1

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those are the same fucking weeds that took over my plot last year lol. they were booming last year with all the rain. big time
Those pics are in a wetland, I intentionally use them due to our many droughts over the years. Those are goldenrods, yes?. I fought with them all summer.:lol:
 

Sunbiz1

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Well last year i had a bad run in my outdoor due to the heavy clay content in the soil and this year have decided me and my partner will carry in bales of pro mix hp. Any Suggestions on what ferts too use in the soil? id like to copy what brown dirt does with the time release but cant find that advanced nutes anywhere. soo any suggestions? does anyone do this?
Home Depot, $10 for an 8 lb bag, use double the recommended amount if your plants are competing w/the natives:
http://www.espoma.com/p_consumer/tones_plant.html
 

Smidge34

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Those pics are in a wetland, I intentionally use them due to our many droughts over the years. Those are goldenrods, yes?. I fought with them all summer.:lol:
Yes, goldenrods, my state flower and they are fucking everywhere down here.
 

dopeydog

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DSCN5083.jpgDSCN5089.jpgDSCN5080.jpggood gange.jpgDSCN5085.jpggreen.jpgSunbiz1- they look lovely. myself i like taller outdoor plants. even though i have to deal with being sneaky the taller they are the faster they dry the early morning dew of them.
sometimes i find the lower branches that hang low keep moisture long into the afternoon and end up getting mold where thicker buds up top get none. so a little lollypoping not only lets more wind through the plant, air movement but also drives more energy to the top branches and buds.

anything i had put out early this year in wetlands didn't survive the month long rain early spring in the northeast. the year before they were the best spots.

here are a few pics from this past year. it says 2011 but i don't know how to change that on my camera it stuck a year in the past :)
these were grown organicaly with sunshine mix or pro mix in big holes. the only thing from a bottle was earth juice bloom.
 

dopeydog

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never used that stuff myself but have used other espoma products (blood and bone meal) cheap stuff compared to going to the hydro store and just as good.
also areas with big goldenrods are usually good places for plants around here.
 

Liddle

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never used that stuff myself but have used other espoma products (blood and bone meal) cheap stuff compared to going to the hydro store and just as good.
also areas with big goldenrods are usually good places for plants around here.
exactly what i was told. only they love the ground to be wet alot apprently they way they grew lasy year compared too the year before. Def Bringing my Machete This Year Haha:wall:
 

Liddle

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Home Depot, $10 for an 8 lb bag, use double the recommended amount if your plants are competing w/the natives:
http://www.espoma.com/p_consumer/tones_plant.html
im more worried about the sunlight competition than the roots. last year i got mine out a little too small and them fucking things grew like weeds with all the rain and stunted the fuck otta my babies. why im going with pro mix just in case it rains alot it will be able to dry out regardless. two years ago(my first) i grew a couple 7 fters with nothing in the soil except for a very small amount of guano and just ff trio. it was so dry that year i was giving them nutes so much i think the roots didnt need to grow very big. and last year was wet as fuck nothing survived and totally killed my vibe for the whole winter. but ey do what it takes to learn right?
 

sativa indica pits

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black berry/ raspberry patches have awesome soil!! they grow right around the same ph 6.5-6.8 and the soil is always fluffy, full of worms and is well aerated by the roots. this is a pic of a what used to be a black berry patchDSC00401.jpg they love it. I would say try pelletized chicken shit!! it will make some monster plants that can get up to 12ft depending on the strain. An old school grower from the 70's told me that and now its a staple fert for my outdoor garden. Cow shit,compost works well in a clump under the root ball so the plants have a good food source all year even through flowering and wont get leached out by rain. Pro-mix is always going in my spots every year. I think I bought a truck load last yr/ about 40 bails. Its all right there this year and will keep working for a few years, it will make any soil fluffy.

oh yea and this is how I make my spots and soil goodDSC00288.jpgDSC00292.jpgDSC00277.jpg good luck man!!
 

Sunbiz1

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im more worried about the sunlight competition than the roots. last year i got mine out a little too small and them fucking things grew like weeds with all the rain and stunted the fuck otta my babies. why im going with pro mix just in case it rains alot it will be able to dry out regardless. two years ago(my first) i grew a couple 7 fters with nothing in the soil except for a very small amount of guano and just ff trio. it was so dry that year i was giving them nutes so much i think the roots didnt need to grow very big. and last year was wet as fuck nothing survived and totally killed my vibe for the whole winter. but ey do what it takes to learn right?
It isn't that our plants are too small, but rather the week or 2 it takes for contained clones etc to establish a root system within an ecosystem. The natives have a huge head start on us, so cannabis struggles for light until their height goes past all those goldenrods etc.

And the problem with clearing out all the existing plants is, it defeats the purpose of using them as cover to prevent thievery etc.
 

Blitzedgrowkid08

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black berry/ raspberry patches have awesome soil!! they grow right around the same ph 6.5-6.8 and the soil is always fluffy, full of worms and is well aerated by the roots. this is a pic of a what used to be a black berry patchView attachment 2956956 they love it. I would say try pelletized chicken shit!! it will make some monster plants that can get up to 12ft depending on the strain. An old school grower from the 70's told me that and now its a staple fert for my outdoor garden. Cow shit,compost works well in a clump under the root ball so the plants have a good food source all year even through flowering and wont get leached out by rain. Pro-mix is always going in my spots every year. I think I bought a truck load last yr/ about 40 bails. Its all right there this year and will keep working for a few years, it will make any soil fluffy.

oh yea and this is how I make my spots and soil goodView attachment 2956991View attachment 2956992View attachment 2956993 good luck man!!
Damn bro you definitely do it big!!! I was debating getting a small tiller myself just don't know how the fuck ill get it to my patch lol!
 
deeaaammm this thread is full of good info!
every year we haul dirt. its just part of the yearly cycle, last year the Home Depot messed up and sent pro mix in loose bags instead of bales, a PALLET of it.
bags are sooo much harder to haul then comressed bricks, atleast per CUFT of dirt. i think it was something like 45 bags, the big long sacks that go all floppy like a shitty pillow.
not doing that again,

what about Coco Coir? has that been mentioned yet? you can haul a few of the 5kg compressed bricks out and expand them once your out there, if you have a good water source.

im definitely going to buy a feed sack of osmocote 12-6-8 this year, that stuff is awesome.

our "geurilla" grow, been growing there fore 4 years, so it has been kinda landscaped :lol:
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i cant wait for spring!

-Lank
 

Liddle

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nice man. im always worried about my trails(not too them) but just from going back and forth from each for watering. lol good stuff
 

Smidge34

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deeaaammm this thread is full of good info!
every year we haul dirt. its just part of the yearly cycle, last year the Home Depot messed up and sent pro mix in loose bags instead of bales, a PALLET of it.
bags are sooo much harder to haul then comressed bricks, atleast per CUFT of dirt. i think it was something like 45 bags, the big long sacks that go all floppy like a shitty pillow.
not doing that again,

what about Coco Coir? has that been mentioned yet? you can haul a few of the 5kg compressed bricks out and expand them once your out there, if you have a good water source.

im definitely going to buy a feed sack of osmocote 12-6-8 this year, that stuff is awesome.

our "geurilla" grow, been growing there fore 4 years, so it has been kinda landscaped :lol:
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i cant wait for spring!

-Lank
Bro, if you tried that in the bush around here somebody would find it, lol. There ain't a square acre of rural land that ain't hunted and hunted HARD. It would never work.
 
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