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theendoftheworld

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racerboy71 said:
complete horse shit.. s1's are no more likely to hermie than regular beans... :D
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respond all you want. thats one of the top.... no THE most ridiculous statement I have ever read online, on this forum, anywhere. You have no concept of modern day genetics obviously, so please keep your mouth shut and read up, instead of posting this bs. Some people are here to learn, not to spout off lies, or more to the point, FALSE information. I've had more experience with SELFED seeds than I'd care to mention, S1 and S2, bagseed, whatever. They HERMIE. Now fuck off.
 
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theendoftheworld

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any time some one lists a strain with S1, it is NOT feminized in the "traditional" method of gibberlic acid. It means the plant was provoked into producing male flowers halfway through flower. If it was FEMINIZED, it would be chemical. Hence the process FEMINIZATION. SELFED means the plant did it all by itself. God the fucking egos here are super! Cheers CHAMP, I'm sure you'll come up with some more witty retorts, and the world of cannabis will continue to suffer, all because of your dam self inflation.
 
grandaddydank

grandaddydank

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I know soma uses another chemical to feminize. or whatever. god why do we keep posting ffreal? such a positive atmosphere. PM me bro, meeting time.
 
mantiszn

mantiszn

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taken from someone who knows...
i think ;)


1) S1 means "Selfed", which is different than saying "self-pollination". Only hermies self-pollinate.

2) In terms of diversity, it depends on the strain you start with. Is is true breeding? f1? f2? f3? If the line is stable, then the offspring should be uniform.

3) The "Selfed" seeds are not f2s...when you "self", you are inbreeding the line to itself, in other words, cubing.

4) "Selfed" seeds are NOT hermies...

"selfing" is the process by which a chemical agent is used on the plant during flowering, to prevent female hormones from reaching the plant's flowers...So you end up with "female pollen"...Since the pollen source WAS NOT from a male, there is no male genes. So when the plant is pollinated with the "female pollen", you should have feminized seeds (female pollen (XX) + female flowers (XX) = feminized seeds (XX)...

Female plants produce male and female hormones. So by restricting the female hormones from reaching the flowers, it will take on male characteristics, but genetically still be female...

Theoretically, there should be no hermies...but in Nature, you cannot control such things...hermaphrodism is a survival tool...
Part of it is up to us to provide the right environment for our plants...because if we don't then feminized seeds don't work...


But there is one problem with "Selfed" seeds...and that is the possibility of recessive trait becoming dominant...
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mantiszn

mantiszn

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quiet in here... lol.
not sure if that info is even right.. just read it somewhere recently.

sure DST would know ;)
 
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arc tyler

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themanwiththeplan said:
i forget what breeder it is not off the top of my head but theres one on attitude that has strains all crossed with critical mass. thats a good starting point. the critical mass (as far as im aware) is big bud reworked (big yields) crossed with potent strains everyone loves (like sensi star, jack herer, etc) so id definitely take the time to check that out.
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I just went and looked around attitude and i think ur thinkin of delicious seeds, never really heard of them much, but anyone here have any person experience with them?
 
jimdandy

jimdandy

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Shaggn said:
Looking for cashcrop. Almost a qp from a 250 is not a good yield, IMO. I'm sure it was pure fire tho :) You can't just call out for cash crop strains w/o knowing your growing process or style. Is it going to be grown outdoors into trees. Indoors 1000w in a 3x3 space and so on. Most strains you can achieve heavy yields as long as you know what style that strain strives in. In the end environment is the most important factor. Not to stray off topic but I found, The Church was a pretty good yielder in a SoG (lb - lb n half per 600 digi) Heavy nute eater aswell. Downfall with The Church is it has been said it can herm easily** Also heard most of the Bombs are pretty heavy yielders in the same fashion, although I can't say for sure yet! Hope you find something that works for you, Peace!!
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Sorry friend but 4 oz's from a 250 is a decent yield for 1 plant. 3 gallon pot with LST and no topping. If I had topped and lst'd with a longer veg, could have yielded more. Ive been using a 250 for 2 years now. if you visit the 250 forums, I think you can see what I mean. The point i was trying to make is if I achieved that qp with that small light, imagine what can be accomplished with a larger set up. I could give less than a fuck about cash cropping. I grow for personal meds. My little micro grow is working fine for me. But i say more power to anyone who cash crops. Just be careful.
 
Shaggn

Shaggn

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jimdandy said:
Sorry friend but 4 oz's from a 250 is a decent yield for 1 plant. 3 gallon pot with LST and no topping. If I had topped and lst'd with a longer veg, could have yielded more. Ive been using a 250 for 2 years now. if you visit the 250 forums, I think you can see what I mean. The point i was trying to make is if I achieved that qp with that small light, imagine what can be accomplished with a larger set up. I could give less than a fuck about cash cropping. I grow for personal meds. My little micro grow is working fine for me. But i say more power to anyone who cash crops. Just be careful.
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I wasn't taking a jab at u. Was just stating that the thread starter was looking for cashcroppers. Tis all good :)
 
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arc tyler

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i think i am just going to go all original, and grow white widow, or that mixed with something, maybe critical.. lmao

but sour60 i checked ur thread and its just nothing...?
 
mantiszn

mantiszn

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If you going widow look at black by Mr nice.
Also for big yielders there's a breeder called bomb seeds.. they have some heavy hitters too.

arc tyler said:
i think i am just going to go all original, and grow white widow, or that mixed with something, maybe critical.. lmao

but sour60 i checked ur thread and its just nothing...?
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themanwiththeplan

themanwiththeplan

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arc tyler said:
i think i am just going to go all original, and grow white widow, or that mixed with something, maybe critical.. lmao

but sour60 i checked ur thread and its just nothing...?
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if you want critical go with dinafem's critical+. ive grown it and it was one of my best strains. it has the production of big bud with a great sativa head-high to match. its very nice. loads of trichs, very nice smell and with the big bud influence = lots of buds. i yielded 4oz off of 1 critical+ without doing too much (top'd once and super cropped from time to time throughout veg thats it)

if you want white widow i grew seedsman white widow and it was pretty potent. once again loads of trichs. nice and heady. not as much yield as the critical+ but makes up for it in potency.
 
bluntmassa1

bluntmassa1

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jimdandy said:
Sorry friend but 4 oz's from a 250 is a decent yield for 1 plant. 3 gallon pot with LST and no topping. If I had topped and lst'd with a longer veg, could have yielded more. Ive been using a 250 for 2 years now. if you visit the 250 forums, I think you can see what I mean. The point i was trying to make is if I achieved that qp with that small light, imagine what can be accomplished with a larger set up. I could give less than a fuck about cash cropping. I grow for personal meds. My little micro grow is working fine for me. But i say more power to anyone who cash crops. Just be careful.
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I think that is decent espeacially for 1 plant but its far from 1 gram per watt
 
themanwiththeplan

themanwiththeplan

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jimdandy said:
The gram per watt thing could be achieved with longer veg and scrog. Seems to me thats where most achieve that number.
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true that. thats how i got my 1g per watt expect instead of scrog i just lst'd vigorously and supercropped the hell out of my plants as well as FIM'd them with nearly a 2 month veg (1month and 3wks). overall i think theres no difference between vegging long for a bigger yield or flowering from clone and getting more harvests. (just my opinion) i think it just comes down to your grow room and your equipment to determine wats best.
 
Omgwtfbbq Indicaman

Omgwtfbbq Indicaman

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Original misty or Armageddon from Homegrown fantaseeds. Ice and Wonder woman from nirvana are pretty good commercial strains but not nearly as good smoke as Armageddon or Original misty(the ice is just as good on a few pheno's). Have 2 original misty's in veg, they clone well and eat more than most indica's ive seen, susceptible to overwatering though. Armageddon is my favorite compromise between high yield and high grade.
 
STLbudz

STLbudz

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BLUE DREAM if your able to get a cut, cant go wrong. smell berries, potency high, yield heavy,2 oz is really easy to pull from this strain ,ive vegged/flower under 600,and got average 1.25 oz per plant with basic nute program with 14-18 days veg
 
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