CFL Micro DWC PC Grow

Yeah I meant that reflective material, thanks. I'd really like to see those light traps if you wouldn't mind.

EDIT: What are your temps like too?
 

baskarz

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faaarrrrkkkk i hate that!!
just typed up post with pics n all, then fuckin accidentaly closed my internet browser....
bah start again...
so as i was saying before my stoned head fucked up,

hey secret vagina! nice profile name by the way :)
in the pictures you get an idea of what ive done.
the front is boxed out with 30mm x 30mm pine and extends about 30mm below the case, becoming the front feet, and little blocks at the rear for feet.
so my intake is underneath the case and acts as an effective light trap for the front 2 120mm pc fans. they act as a passive intake and only get switched on when it gets hot outside.
i have my intake 120mm fans at the top and middle of the case as i have found it is the best for cooling the cfls. i have tried with the top fan at the bottom but ran hotter, not by much, but hotter nonetheless. works for me, the full front light trap gives me the flexibility to move my intake fans up or down.
the top trap sits in place for now until i silicone it down but its working well just sitting.
i used blower type fans for my exhausts as they are quieter and push more air than the pc fans but the top trap will work equally as well with normal 80 or 120mm fans.
the rear trap was a mad concoction one night after a few good cones, tin, tin snips, and rivets :P it works well for the bower fan but would be no good for a normal fan. for the rear you could make another one of the top traps for the rear which would work well.
we have recently come out of summer 40c+ days and ambient hangs around 29 at the moment and dropping as autumn sets in.
My case temps hang around 25c during the day with lights off, and 27.5c at night with lights on.
i run my 12/12 light schedule to come on at 7pm and go off at 7am so the case keeps cooler with the lights on with the ccoler night temps.
im not the greatest at explaining this so hopefully the pics speak a 1000 words for me :lol:
if you have any questions feel free to ask and i will answer them the best i can :)

welcome aboard pc grower uk! picture update tomorrow night when i do the res change!
theres a sneak peak of tomorrow nights update in the first pic
 

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baskarz

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Update time! Day late but ya get that :P
Pics are from last night when I did the Res change.
My Ph levels start at 5.8 when I do the change and by next change the Ph has only risen to 6.1. Not bad for such a small Res I think
. I transplanted the soil girl into a larger pot and put her under the hps, but she hasn't taken well to the swap. I fear she may keel over very soon. Her lower leaves have drooped severely and half have gone brown yet the top stems look reasonably healthy... I'm not overly worried if she does die, I have dozens more seeds to play with :)
Anyway here's some pics of dwc girl at 7weeks from rooted clone, this strain would appear to flower for a while but that's OK I have my stash from last grow which will see me thru. :joint:
 

glockdoc

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faaarrrrkkkk i hate that!!
just typed up post with pics n all, then fuckin accidentaly closed my internet browser....
bah start again...
so as i was saying before my stoned head fucked up,

hey secret vagina! nice profile name by the way :)
in the pictures you get an idea of what ive done.
the front is boxed out with 30mm x 30mm pine and extends about 30mm below the case, becoming the front feet, and little blocks at the rear for feet.
so my intake is underneath the case and acts as an effective light trap for the front 2 120mm pc fans. they act as a passive intake and only get switched on when it gets hot outside.
i have my intake 120mm fans at the top and middle of the case as i have found it is the best for cooling the cfls. i have tried with the top fan at the bottom but ran hotter, not by much, but hotter nonetheless. works for me, the full front light trap gives me the flexibility to move my intake fans up or down.
the top trap sits in place for now until i silicone it down but its working well just sitting.
i used blower type fans for my exhausts as they are quieter and push more air than the pc fans but the top trap will work equally as well with normal 80 or 120mm fans.
the rear trap was a mad concoction one night after a few good cones, tin, tin snips, and rivets :P it works well for the bower fan but would be no good for a normal fan. for the rear you could make another one of the top traps for the rear which would work well.
we have recently come out of summer 40c+ days and ambient hangs around 29 at the moment and dropping as autumn sets in.
My case temps hang around 25c during the day with lights off, and 27.5c at night with lights on.
i run my 12/12 light schedule to come on at 7pm and go off at 7am so the case keeps cooler with the lights on with the ccoler night temps.
im not the greatest at explaining this so hopefully the pics speak a 1000 words for me :lol:
if you have any questions feel free to ask and i will answer them the best i can :)

welcome aboard pc grower uk! picture update tomorrow night when i do the res change!
theres a sneak peak of tomorrow nights update in the first pic :wink:
wow thanks for breaking it down for everyone good info and insight. +rep
Update time! Day late but ya get that :P
Pics are from last night when I did the Res change.
My Ph levels start at 5.8 when I do the change and by next change the Ph has only risen to 6.1. Not bad for such a small Res I think
. I transplanted the soil girl into a larger pot and put her under the hps, but she hasn't taken well to the swap. I fear she may keel over very soon. Her lower leaves have drooped severely and half have gone brown yet the top stems look reasonably healthy... I'm not overly worried if she does die, I have dozens more seeds to play with :)
Anyway here's some pics of dwc girl at 7weeks from rooted clone, this strain would appear to flower for a while but that's OK I have my stash from last grow which will see me thru. :joint:
the pics didnt come up bro. where they at!!
 

baskarz

Active Member
Thanks glock for that kind words!
I did use a plant starter and seasol mix for the transplant but I think I might have left it too late to transplant successfully.
Hey if it does die, I can start a new seed in the new cab with the dwc and scrog bucket :D but that's a new thread to be started ;)
 

glockdoc

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ive read and heard superthrive works wonders with transplant. u dont have any rooting hormones? it wont die i dont think, they can jus go thru shock for a week or 2. throw in a red spec bulb with ur blue for veg when u transplant. it will help out.
 

baskarz

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Yeah I read about superthrive. I don't have any tho. The plant starter is for transplants and new seedlings and seasol helps with the root system during transplant. This mix I've used in the past for transplanting other plants successfully. Like u say, she's probably in shock. I'll give her a week and just see how she goes. Its currently under a 150w hps about 12" from the plant top. I have a 250w mh but temps may become an issue.
 

glockdoc

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icic, yea heat issues and issue lol. you should be fine with the 150. do u veg with the hps too?
 

baskarz

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I haven't vegged with the hps before. Last grow I had a 70w mh for veg then swapped to the 150w hps for flower.
Dunno if I can be bothered rigging up the mh this time. You reckon it'll do OK with hps from the start?
 

glockdoc

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I haven't vegged with the hps before. Last grow I had a 70w mh for veg then swapped to the 150w hps for flower.
Dunno if I can be bothered rigging up the mh this time. You reckon it'll do OK with hps from the start?
yea you will be good, plant might be a little stretchy but you'll be good
 

baskarz

Active Member
Ah that's OK if she stretches a little more, I'll make her my lst bitch! Haha :D
I can always use the scrog screen from the new setup too :)
 
Awesome root growth on the Dwc one. I use aquashield in my reservoir and change it weekly but I have 4 clones competing so next grow will be 3 or less as a couple seem to grow faster even though they came from the same mother. What's the flowering cycle of your strain? Hps is ideal for flowering and should make your buds denser. I am going to eventually build a dedicated flowering cab using either 150w or 250w hps while keeping my current setup for veg only with cfl's. You'll veg faster with a mh bulb but cfl's suit me fine.
 

glockdoc

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Awesome root growth on the Dwc one. I use aquashield in my reservoir and change it weekly but I have 4 clones competing so next grow will be 3 or less as a couple seem to grow faster even though they came from the same mother. What's the flowering cycle of your strain? Hps is ideal for flowering and should make your buds denser. I am going to eventually build a dedicated flowering cab using either 150w or 250w hps while keeping my current setup for veg only with cfl's. You'll veg faster with a mh bulb but cfl's suit me fine.
what bulbs do you use for ur veg? mixed spec? all blue 3000k, 5000k?and how do you veg your clones to give everyone a better understanding. i notice when people who only have sodiums veg a clone under a hps that they are taller and have longer internodes then you would if you use the daylight for veg and warm for flowering. but then the red spectrum is also good for promoting root growth and also as we all know for flowering. so i see it as why dont we use both...better yet (if cab applies) use all spectrums seeing 3000k has best PAR and 5000k which is like mid day sun and try to aim for closest simulation as the sun as you can?!?! if I mixed spectrum i would keep it heavy on w.e state my plant was in (i.e if in veg more 6500k then every other bulb vice versa when flowering) but throw in more spectrum's. yea 2700k makes for stretchy plants and sometimes buds stretch to...sometimes... but i bet with a nice mix we would get sweet results.
 
For vegging I have been using a mix of 5 various wattage 6500k daylight bulbs and 2 2700k bulbs one high wattage. Based on what I've read using a mix helps cover the spectrums better for growth. I will reverse this setup once I flower. Cfl's seem best to cut your teeth on and then once your comfortable with your skills move on to hps for flowering.

SirSly420 on YouTube has great grow journals using both cfl's and hps in various cabs. Check out a rotogro growing cannabis for some insane weed pron. Led's seem to be the future based on energy to heat to light ratios plus can be spectrum specific but require serious bank for startup. Best grows I have seen use a mix of hps/led's to flower with wattage really dependent on grow area.
 
Quick note for USA growers, Habitat for Humanity​ stores is an awesome place to look for lights both bulbs and housing. My dad is big on contracting work so I go there to help him get things and they have tons of cfl's in all kinds of configs at usually half or less than home depot and the like. Not to mention outdoor low wattage hps and mh fixtures pop up randomly. Plus they have tracked lighting setups that work well in cabs and pc boxes.
 
To answer baskarz light question...

Throw in a couple of daylight 5000k or 6500k (what I use) to supplement your hps in vegging and you're golden. Use lower wattage like 13w bulbs (not actual output just energy usage). They work fine in tight spaces and put out 800 lumens, at least the better ones do.

P.s.
I would be worried with any sign of hermy'ing as most of what I've read states it's almost always based on genetics with stress only being a guarantee of hermie inclined plant to turn. I always read through a strains user comments to see if this trait is common or not to a strain. I haven't grown yet but have been boning up on the info out there. Please can anyone confirm this or not?
 
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