check up 2 and i am worried

dtowndabber · Mar 31, 2013

Miss.Rabbit said:
absolutely! I completely agree! also I would recommend waiting to transplant at all until you see root development

Correct again I would wait for a few - several roots. Once they hit water they will run away from you lol

dtowndabber · Mar 31, 2013

dunn7314 said:
I was just going to transplant in to soil cant afford that for hydro what should i do i have a heated propagtor and my main grow room is a 400 w mh for veg n a 400w hps for flowering would i be able to gently remove them from the rock wool and place them in soil or keep it in the rock wool and could i place them under tht light or is it to strong

Nothing is too strong in my opinion. You could put them under a 600hps as long as it doesn't hurt them. Test with the back of your hand at canopy level. If you feel nothing so will she. As far transplanting to soil, I've never used rockwool in soil. So I can't help with that

Edit: I'd be afraid of rot or mold.

dunn7314 · Mar 31, 2013

Miss.Rabbit said:
this seriously makes me think its due to lack of moisture, at this stage they need approx 85% humidity.

should i put them back i my dome ???

Miss.Rabbit · Mar 31, 2013

dunn7314 said:
I was just going to transplant in to soil cant afford that for hydro what should i do i have a heated propagtor and my main grow room is a 400 w mh for veg n a 400w hps for flowering would i be able to gently remove them from the rock wool and place them in soil or keep it in the rock wool and could i place them under tht light or is it to strong

rockwool will transplant into seriously anything. I run coco-perlite mix and i'm dabbling with a coco-soil(foxfarm)-perlite mix which i find is great up until week 2 or 3 of flower when I start giving them big girl nutes and black strap molasses. but like i said the rockwool cubes will transfer into soil but wait until you see roots and it would be ideal to put a light mix such as light warrior for the first few in then place a heavier soil underneath I use fox farm's ocean forest, this will help you avoid feeding too heavy too soon.

dtowndabber · Mar 31, 2013

If you don't see roots coming out of the bottom. Yes. I like to wait til they are about 5" tall min. Before I transplant. I don't remove the dome until then either. I only open it slightly for some air. But not too much as to avoid losing humidity

Miss.Rabbit · Mar 31, 2013

dunn7314 said:
should i put them back i my dome ???

yes sir

WattSaver · Mar 31, 2013

If you are going to be going out in soil, then get a small pot like 3" or a disposable plastic cup and cut a couple of holes on the bottom edge, and transplant with the rockwool, don't try to take it out. And in the future if growing in soil just start them in soil, it's the easiest way to start seeds.

Best of luck.

dunn7314 · Mar 31, 2013

Miss.Rabbit said:
rockwool will transplant into seriously anything. I run coco-perlite mix and i'm dabbling with a coco-soil(foxfarm)-perlite mix which i find is great up until week 2 or 3 of flower when I start giving them big girl nutes and black strap molasses. but like i said the rockwool cubes will transfer into soil but wait until you see roots and it would be ideal to put a light mix such as light warrior for the first few in then place a heavier soil underneath I use fox farm's ocean forest, this will help you avoid feeding too heavy too soon.

Ok should i put them back in the dome and wait for roots??

dunn7314 · Mar 31, 2013

Thanks to all of u my head is spinning i will re place them back in the dome and wait for roots and i will keep an eye out on my ph and ec for sure thanks to u all again i will keep u all updated on how the turn out thank u again one last question should i keep it with cfl of put my entire dome in my grow room whith the mh on or stick to the cfl

dtowndabber · Mar 31, 2013

Yes. And I completely agree with starting in soil FOR soil.

Miss.Rabbit · Mar 31, 2013

dunn7314 said:
Ok should i put them back in the dome and wait for roots??

yes and so long as you keep the humidity high the roots will be fine, but don't wait too long i usually wait until I see 3 or more good white roots to show before transplanting.

dtowndabber · Mar 31, 2013

I would stick with the cfl til you switch to hps. You can cause shock by introducing different light sources and stunt growth.

dunn7314 · Mar 31, 2013

dtowndabber said:
I would stick with the cfl til you switch to hps. You can cause shock by introducing different light sources and stunt growth.

Ok will do but will a 9 w cfl do till they are ready for flowering

dtowndabber · Mar 31, 2013

I would definitely bump it up. At least 65-100.

And no you want to use your Mh for veg.

Cfl for germ til teansplant
Mh for Veg
Hps for flower

RIKNSTEIN · Mar 31, 2013

dunn7314 said:
Hi guys i am a liitle worried about my seedlings one is a white widow and the other blue lemon thai now the white widow was looking really good and its first set of leaves were basically out strecthed but now just as the aecond set comes in it leaves are going back up little confused is this normal for this strain i will put pics up of before and todays pics too show the difference also on my other one the blue lemon she is doing fine but she has a brown tip and yellowing no idea y please helpView attachment 2595081 View attachment 2595079 View attachment 2595074 View attachment 2595075 View attachment 2595076 View attachment 2595077

Please any advice or help would be great

I'm gona tell you something you don't want to hear...those white spots in pic 1 look like spider mites, get a magnifying glass and check the bottoms of the leaves, mites can't be seen with the naked eye, and if they can you're done with those..and about your PH levels, here ya go,,,good luck man..

RIKNSTEIN · Mar 31, 2013

dunn7314 said:
Ok will do but will a 9 w cfl do till they are ready for flowering

Put massive light on them babies (my T5 HO w/hanging CFLs)

dtowndabber · Mar 31, 2013

Great chart RIK!

Miss.Rabbit · Mar 31, 2013

RIKNSTEIN said:
I'm gona tell you something you don't want to hear...those white spots in pic 1 look like spider mites, get a magnifying glass and check the bottoms of the leaves, mites can't be seen with the naked eye, and if they can you're done with those..and about your PH levels, here ya go,,,good luck man..

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i hate to say it but he's right if they are spider mites id recommend using, azomax, sns 209(the foliar application for this early on), or final answer. I've had good results with all three but azomax is my fav! good luck!

dunn7314 · Mar 31, 2013

RIKNSTEIN said:
View attachment 2595211Put massive light on them babies (my T5 HO w/hanging CFLs)

I only have my mh that is bigger and are u taking bout the white spot on the leaves cos they have been there since day one ?

RIKNSTEIN · Mar 31, 2013

dunn7314 said:
I only have my mh that is bigger and are u taking bout the white spot on the leaves cos they have been there since day one ?

OK, make me show my newbie fuckups will ya..lmao...this one was severly nute burned but look at the little white spots...they were spidermites buddy...and I use nothing but CFLs, especially in the early stages...EDIT: HIDs are too much for me in the state I live in, around here if your electric bill goes up all of a sudden, they get a search warrant...lol..

Spidermites!!!! But, I use neem oil and they're gone and this 1 actually came back..

But, it was this 1 I was worried about..

I use neem oil as a regular regiment now..I water and foiliar spray once a week with neem after lights out as to not burn them up.

EDIT: I had those spots from day 1 also...

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