cheering for dormer!

PeyoteReligion said:

My point is still valid. Non mentally ill people dont go on murderous rampages for losing their job. Even if they are wronged, it happens everyday. This guy is the one who made it a life and death situation. It has nothing to do with koolaid. I don't deny that LAPD is corrupt as fuck, and that maybe he was wrongly terminated. But none of that justices killin innocent people. Sounds like you are drinking a different flavor of koolaid...the one where what he's doing is ok?

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I don't think that anyone agrees with his having killed folks that must have been totaly innocent. People CAN be mentally ill and make decisions that are highly effective, they can plot and plan, they can see a world where everyone is an enemy and prepare for that enemy to attack.

It wasn't, apparently just his being fired though that must have been a part. I knew people who dreamed of doing something like this (they never did of course), LAPD attracts rather unsavory folk for whatever reason - I always viewed them as large children, as thugs, as the perfect opposite complement of the gangs they were paid to apprehend or control. They had parties for officers who discharged their weapons in the line of duty for the first time. Those I knew of quite well, I heard rumors of other parties for those who had made their first kill in the line of duty but I cannot vouch for those. This guy isn't all that much different than the officers I knew or knew of - except he went the other way.

Saltrock said:

You think they would have created a tear gas that doesn't burn a house down.

Peace
Salt

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I would not put their torching the place purposefully out of the question - the only thing is that we are not working with the LAPD any more and the SBPD is not half as bad, I doubt they would collude with the LAPD in this.

nontheist said:

The only reason people don't kill more frequently is harsh punishment it has little to do with mental stability. Hell we will watch this and see the people that die eat a sandwich and go to bed without giving two fucks.

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I give a fuck nonthiest..... but.... I get hungry too. If Dorner gets out of this he will become a cultural hero - another DB Cooper, even if he did kill innocent people.

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nontheist said:

The only reason people don't kill more frequently is harsh punishment it has little to do with mental stability. Hell we will watch this and see the people that die eat a sandwich and go to bed without giving two fucks.

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Im glad we have harsh enough punishment to KEEP PEOPLE FROM KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE. It has everything to do with mental stability. The reason I dont go around killing people isnt only because of the punishment, but because I know that killing people out of frustration is deranged. I will agree with you that we are a desensitized population, but again that does not justify killing innocent people.

Now THAT is funny, a sherif's chopper whelped at a news chopper with his siren. There is another story going on here with the news.

"the LAPD of the past is not the LAPD of the present, Bratton latched on to those changes" - says a local commentators - BULLSHIT. This is why Dorner is becoming a hero - because the LAPD was such a NAZI outfit.



Smoke is gone again.

PeyoteReligion said:

Im glad we have harsh enough punishment to KEEP PEOPLE FROM KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE. It has everything to do with mental stability. The reason I dont go around killing people isnt only because of the punishment, but because I know that killing people out of frustration is deranged. I will agree with you that we are a desensitized population, but again that does not justify killing innocent people.

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Oh ok so lets ignore humanity from existence to support your theory. Most people don't give a shit if you die does this bother you?

canndo said:

"the LAPD of the past is not the LAPD of the present, Bratton latched on to those changes" - says a local commentators - BULLSHIT. This is why Dorner is becoming a hero - because the LAPD was such a NAZI outfit.



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People think this guy is a hero? Jesus, people are twisted.

PeyoteReligion said:

People think this guy is a hero? Jesus, people are twisted.

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Who? Besides the retards in this thread.

nontheist said:

Oh ok so lets ignore humanity from existence to support your theory. Most people don't give a shit if you die does this bother you?

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What does any of what you just said have to do with the convo? I'm aware I will die and most people won't know therefore never have the opportunity to give a shit. Is that your argument for killing innocent people? Because most people won't remember or give a fuck? So who cares if he killed a few people, no big deal? Well I guess you just don't give a fuck. Just because you don't, doesn't mean that most of us watching this unfold see the murder of innocent people as a no no.

PeyoteReligion said:

People think this guy is a hero? Jesus, people are twisted.

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No, you would have to understand exactly how oppressive the LAPD really is/was. I am not agreeing with his being a hero. Beyond that, he is/was shooting non-LAPD folk who had nothing to do with either the oppression perpetrated by the LAPD or their culture, but still, I can easily see lots and lots of people, especially inner city blacks rooting for this black man who looks to them like Rambo right now.

Doesn't make sense. They are letting the fire burn - saying that it is too dangerous to get close but there are red blinking lights not 30 yards from the burning building. So which is it? As I said, I don't believe SBPD would collude with LAPD, even if the guy IS a cop killer.

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Doesn't make sense. They are letting the fire burn - saying that it is too dangerous to get close but there are red blinking lights not 30 yards from the burning building. So which is it? As I said, I don't believe SBPD would collude with LAPD, even if the guy IS a cop killer.

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I think they pretty much know that this guy did his homework... as scanner picked up chatter about hidden access routes out of the basements in those cottages. If he knew of, or found one... the law enforcement in that area pretty much tipped their whole hand in how they'll approach him.

Well Dorner most likely perished in the cabin fire that ensued during the latest shootout with police near the Big Bear area this afternoon. Another cop was killed and another wounded. The police are so afraid to go in to confirm his death they are waiting until the fire burns out. If he escaped this one I almost have to start cheering for him, but it looks like it is over.

canndo said:

No, you would have to understand exactly how oppressive the LAPD really is/was. I am not agreeing with his being a hero. Beyond that, he is/was shooting non-LAPD folk who had nothing to do with either the oppression perpetrated by the LAPD or their culture, but still, I can easily see lots and lots of people, especially inner city blacks rooting for this black man who looks to them like Rambo right now.

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And the LAPD are shooting "non-dormer folk" who've had nothing to do with this too...

To see negroes rooting for this bloke is just another side of the "racist cracker" mentality...

PeyoteReligion said:

People think this guy is a hero? Jesus, people are twisted.

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people think the kid at the movie theater is a hero(insane people mind you), at least guy(dormer) did what he did for the right reasons, or so it appears if you read between the lines the media has drawn.

Flaming Pie said:

Who? Besides the retards in this thread.

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Preach it!

polyarcturus said:

people think the kid at the movie theater is a hero(insane people mind you), at least guy(dormer) did what he did for the right reasons, or so it appears if you read between the lines the media has drawn.

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I still don't see getting wrongly terminated, even if by a corrupt department, as the "right reason" to go on a murderous rampage. It should not be so easy to justify homicide. Insane people trip me out.

7:00pm Charred body found in the rubble of the burned cabin.