Chemdawg #4- Seed to smoke journal.. Dr Greenthumb

killachris

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great run dude..but i dont know if thats a true chemdawg. i got a clone of a true chemdawg and it grows the most odd shaped leaves:

smell is of a super powered fruit, as well as the taste.

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Dr Gruber

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Hehehe, me thinks you may not have the real chem.
ive never had any chemdawg that tastes the way you describe.
but who knows?
i was going to say the same thing...every description of Chemdawg that I have seen pegs the smell and taste as Pine Sol/ jet fuel/skunk, type smell.
 

killachris

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No skunk here..straight chemdawg flavor, like fueled fruit..pine sol is right on. No skunk/cheese here, but i did get some undertones of that in my diesel which is chemdawg x super skunk x n.l. chemdawg is very overpowering
 

SIRE

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Hey Doc it's Sire how's it going? I respect only a few opinions i know of on these sites you uncle Ben Brick Top Ogman Racer. I have totally enjoyed your grow journals. The info is valuable. I've spoken to Dr Greenthumb a few times when I first got started I thought he was a bit of a jerk but I realized the things I asked was less than intelligent questions he's heard before. I ordered the C99 it was ok not my speed though but I've read your Freedom 35, Bubba OG, I think Dope and now Chemdawg4. You sold me on the Bubba OG. After I share what I read my partner seems to doubt the final dry numbers. He thinks their possible but inflated a bit. As I told em though too much precise detail. Your numbers is due to your 7 week veg time correct? I noticed u didn't veg the chem4 that long why because of the sativa in her?
 

cleverpiggy

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Doctor GT's Chemdawg is the real deal! I saw the most amazing pheno from his CD X G13, no g-13 whatsoever, just pure Pine-Sol funk so toxic it makes you sick to prolonged exposure. I had never tried CD before so I was taken aback a bit by its profile. It is not an everyday smoke for some, I equate it to drinking beer as opposed to drinking Bacardi 151, this stuff is too much sometimes. The smell is horribly fierce.... you could use many, many filters and it will still it cut through. The bud is greasy, not sticky..... greasy with resin. His gear is expensive for a reason.... it is that good!

Love the new camera Doc, it does your work justice!
 

Dr Gruber

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Hey Doc it's Sire how's it going? I respect only a few opinions i know of on these sites you uncle Ben Brick Top Ogman Racer. I have totally enjoyed your grow journals. The info is valuable. I've spoken to Dr Greenthumb a few times when I first got started I thought he was a bit of a jerk but I realized the things I asked was less than intelligent questions he's heard before. I ordered the C99 it was ok not my speed though but I've read your Freedom 35, Bubba OG, I think Dope and now Chemdawg4. You sold me on the Bubba OG. After I share what I read my partner seems to doubt the final dry numbers. He thinks their possible but inflated a bit. As I told em though too much precise detail. Your numbers is due to your 7 week veg time correct? I noticed u didn't veg the chem4 that long why because of the sativa in her?
Well, i know it really doesn't mean much on the internet but I promise you i never inflate my numbers. And...to be honest i am embarrassed about the yield i pulled from the Chem. I know I can pull way more from them then that.
You are correct about the shorter veg time for the chem...i heard they stretch so i flipped sooner. Probably wont do that the next time. In general longer veg = bigger plant and more yield. Someone on another site gave me a really hard time once about my weights so on the next grow I took pictures of me weighing the entire plant...shut him up real quick.
 

killachris

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no sir. diesel is chemdawg x super skunk x northern lights

og kush is chemdawg x kush x lemon thai.

it looks more like an og to me than a diesel or a straight chemdawg.
 

Dr Gruber

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no sir. diesel is chemdawg x super skunk x northern lights

og kush is chemdawg x kush x lemon thai.

it looks more like an og to me than a diesel or a straight chemdawg.
a number of chemdawg veterans have come out to say the opposite of what you are saying so im not going to worry about it.
 

SIRE

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Well, i know it really doesn't mean much on the internet but I promise you i never inflate my numbers. And...to be honest i am embarrassed about the yield i pulled from the Chem. I know I can pull way more from them then that.
You are correct about the shorter veg time for the chem...i heard they stretch so i flipped sooner. Probably wont do that the next time. In general longer veg = bigger plant and more yield. Someone on another site gave me a really hard time once about my weights so on the next grow I took pictures of me weighing the entire plant...shut him up real quick.
Lol.....what people don't get is this the weight is relative to how long you veg and your space to be able to grow it out to obtain a decent yield. I noticed how u harvest in stages and let the bottom of that girl still go. How long do u let it go? About 4 weeks? And how much (I know it depends on strain I'm speaking about the BubbaOg) did the tops weigh if you can remember and the tops of the Chem4? And which is more potent? I gathered u like the BubbaOg taste better.
 

Dr Gruber

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Lol.....what people don't get is this the weight is relative to how long you veg and your space to be able to grow it out to obtain a decent yield. I noticed how u harvest in stages and let the bottom of that girl still go. How long do u let it go? About 4 weeks? And how much (I know it depends on strain I'm speaking about the BubbaOg) did the tops weigh if you can remember and the tops of the Chem4? And which is more potent? I gathered u like the BubbaOg taste better.
Yeah, i always do the multi stage harvest and it always depends on strain but even more on how healthy and green you keep them during the grow. If you don't have enough healthy green leaves to drive bud production you really wont get much late growth from the bottom. Usually 2-3 weeks extra or so. Really, all i'm doing is letting the bottom of the plant get ripe, so you just go by what the plant tells you.
Off the top of my head the biggest buds from the BubbaOG were just under or right about an oz per. I have one top from the Chem that is just over an oz but the rest of them are just at or under an OZ. The best I did was the Dope and Big Purps. Both had tops that weighed over 2 oz's each.

The first time I ran the Bubba OG i pulled 10 oz's from the best plant after a 60 day veg. I ran a clone from the same plant with a much shorter veg time and only pulled 6 oz's from it. So that gives you an idea about Veg time but there are many factors.
 

SIRE

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That's good to know about the greeness playing a part. I grow with the biobizz line and by using the grow all the way thru till harvest it stays green basically. Never yellows but I read some where that if it doesn't yellow I'm not transferring the sugars to the buds and therefore not maximizing bud production and sacrificing weight. But your saying by it staying green it actually produces bigger heavier buds?
 

Dr Gruber

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That's good to know about the greeness playing a part. I grow with the biobizz line and by using the grow all the way thru till harvest it stays green basically. Never yellows but I read some where that if it doesn't yellow I'm not transferring the sugars to the buds and therefore not maximizing bud production and sacrificing weight. But your saying by it staying green it actually produces bigger heavier buds?

yep. its the leaves and the roots that drive bud production. There is a lot of fighting over this so i would suggest you read anything by Uncle Ben. He explains it way better then I and he has the science to back it up. People say that a plant going yellow during flower is "normal'. I agree it's normal, but only for an unhealthy plant; its not desirable. Do you let your apple trees go yellow...or your tomato plants? It probably better to get our info from a plant botanist rather then a MJ forum.
If your plants need "grow formula" all the way through then thats what you need to do. Don't follow any feeding schedules...learn to read the plant and feed accordingly. It takes a long time and i still havent figured it all out but im getting better.
 

killachris

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Apple trees and the tomato plants youre referring to dont yellow hard while fruiting because theyre an indeterminate variety. This means their flower units or clusters ripen at different time throughout the season, as long as conditions are within their living limits. This is not the case with cannabis. Its a determinate species. There are determinate varieties of tomatoes and such due to intense breeding, but im not sure which one came first. Probably determinate species, and then we made them indeterminate for consumer satisfaction.

Cannabis should yellow out towards the end of its life.
 

Dr Gruber

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Apple trees and the tomato plants youre referring to dont yellow hard while fruiting because theyre an indeterminate variety. This means their flower units or clusters ripen at different time throughout the season, as long as conditions are within their living limits. This is not the case with cannabis. Its a determinate species. There are determinate varieties of tomatoes and such due to intense breeding, but im not sure which one came first. Probably determinate species, and then we made them indeterminate for consumer satisfaction.

Cannabis should yellow out towards the end of its life.
i agree towards the end of its life. but not in week 2 of flower as some seem to think.
 
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