Chemical weapons used by Syria

Dr Kynes

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The CWC is the first disarmament agreement negotiated within a multilateral framework that provides for the elimination of an entire category of weapons of mass destruction under universally applied international control.

http://www.un.org/disarmament/WMD/Chemical/


The UN has an obligation to investigate but most of the times they are too pussy to do anything. They DO have the legal right to invade Syria based on the use of Chemical WMD. - you really need to read more Dr. KY Jelly. All you can do is spread misinformation and say bad things about me. It`s actually quite amusing but I also feel required to spread the truth in absents of your intelligible mind.
nope. syria isnt party to the agreement, and thus is not bound by it. thats why the UN sec. Gen said that taking action against syria would be illegal.





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Doer

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What the Fuk? Anyway, the Jews killed Christ with the help of the Roman pig-bitch Pilate. They would rather free a convicted murderer than to lift their eyes and see the truth - It`s Plato's allegory of the cave dwellers. Sometimes their 'God' is only to save their own lives.

I feel the same way about Syria as does the rest of the world. The Geneva convention and War Crimes act states it`s illegal to use WMD and there needs to be accountability. Although, who wants to put a bunch of Muslim extremists in power? The Muslims have been revolting against their governments for a long time. This is a multilateral coup to seize the Middle East.

..Obama - the Muslim, has spoken his words. The World has spoken it`s words, fuck the Muslim rebels..



btw, some of you are watching Zeitgeist. Ha! funny little tweeker kid..

There is no Roman or Jewish record of this. And there is broad evidence of a minor plot twist in the Roman Senate regarding the Pizo Family, Herrod and certain Dead Messiah, John the B, and no story but his head on the plate. That is not enough to feed the Lion of the Roman Army.

Rome invented Nazi record keeping. There is no record. Lots of tampering with the Act of Pilate and the writing of Jospehus. Earlier copies have been found.

And it is nothing new, just shouted down. You can go back to the shreds of left over truth of Constantine and get a hint of this objection. How hard can it be to start a Religion whole cloth? It is done all the time. Scientology, Branch Davidians, Jack Mormons.

So, don't quote any scripture as fact, please. If you throw it all out as war chant and lies, and then try to prove any shred of it, you will be very surprised. We have the stuff tossed out of the Bible, now. And if you look, this Christos on earth, the only way from sin, Jesus said almost nothing, that is recorded. 21 repeated fables and parables common at the time, and a few very strange things. It is the Eastern concepts in there and hey are just shouted down. The meaning is twisted against the older meanings for power.

I and my father are ONE.
Must come thru the Son (human body) to know God (self)
God made us in his own image......what, a mirror? Silly. We are in the Tao, the Completeness, we are in the Image (imagination) of God

The list is endless of the word play turned around, and the only thing truly Mysterious Being to me is how this Oneness/Godness = Humanity printed thru so well. And cannot, even in Islam much longer, be denied.

Education on Humanity and humility begun as the Tao, is still strangely tangled in the imperative need for War/Peace. Spooky that Christo?Tao crossed all this time and distance, survived mangled translations, wholesale killing, and the Printing Press.
 

pSi007

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As of September 2013, 189 states are party to the CWC, and another two countries (Israel and Myanmar) have signed but not ratified the convention.[SUP][1][/SUP] On 14 September 2013, Syria deposited its instrument of accession to the CWC and agreed to provisional application pending its entry into force effective 14 October 2013.
Syria has submitted a letter to the United Nations as the
depositary, in which they announced that a legislative decree had been signed and their commitment to the convention, even prior to its entry into force[SUP][12][/SUP] The treaty will be applied provisionally pending its entry into force for Syria on 14 October 2013, one month after the deposit of its instrument of accession.[SUP][7][/SUP] In a telephone call with the OPCW director-general Syrian Deputy Minister Faisal Mekdad asked for technical assistance. The OPCW announced that this provisional application request of the convention had been ciruclated with its member states.[SUP][13][/SUP] On 14 September 2013, the United States and Russia announced a deal to eliminate Syria's chemical weapons by mid-2014



International law has prohibited the use of chemical weapons since 1899, under the Hague Convention: Article 23 of the Regulations Respecting the Laws and Customs of War on Land adopted by the First Hague Conference "especially" prohibited employing "poison and poisoned arms"


You lazy potheads really should read more. :wink:
 

pSi007

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If you think the Hague Convention is a joke, ask Slobodan Milosevic. It is my guess Bashar al-Assad will follow suit as Milo the slag. Interestingly enough, Al-Assad kills Muslim rebels, so... Who cares! :) we will get Bashar al-Assad in the Hague later.
 

Dr Kynes

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You lazy potheads really should read more. :wink:
On 14 September 2013, Syria deposited its instrument of accession to the CWC and agreed to provisional application pending its entry into force effective 14 October 2013

check the current date.


you are either Too High, or Not Nearly High Enough to argue with me.


 

echelon1k1

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Is anybody else watching? And have you seen any pics yet?

View attachment 2825241

America may have a large chunk of crap in orbit, but they are by no means a monopoly up there.
Add Australia's six to the US arsenal of wideband comms satellites.... The US' agreement with "Five Eyes" also gives the US access to allied countries comms satellites so when you look at the numbers I would have to surmise the US does have the monopoly and that capability is shared with only a handful of counties. (UK, CAN, AU)
 

Dr Kynes

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Add Australia's six to the US arsenal of wideband comms satellites.... The US' agreement with "Five Eyes" also gives the US access to allied countries comms satellites so when you look at the numbers I would have to surmise the US does have the monopoly and that capability is shared with only a handful of counties. (UK, CAN, AU)
it's not our fault that russia and china cant keep their tech working.

fuck, we pay so much in taxes i should be able to park one of those fuckers over jessica alba's house just in case she forgets to close the curtains when she is gettin out of the shower...
 

heckler73

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Add Australia's six to the US arsenal of wideband comms satellites.... The US' agreement with "Five Eyes" also gives the US access to allied countries comms satellites so when you look at the numbers I would have to surmise the US does have the monopoly and that capability is shared with only a handful of counties. (UK, CAN, AU)
Does the US still have the "kill switch" at their disposal?
20 years ago, when I was studying telecom, we discussed that subject (since satellite comm. was polarized). Commercial users had the "vertical" polarization, while the military used the "horizontal" polarization (or maybe it was vice-versa? I can't remember).
In the event of emergency (whatever that meant) they could "kill" all commercial traffic since they had there own special link.

I assumed that faded away with new methods of packing data, etc... To be honest I never kept up with the technology. Within a year of graduation, my knowledge was antiquated (this was during the transition from ESS to DSS in terrestrial comm.).
 

echelon1k1

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it's not our fault that russia and china cant keep their tech working.

fuck, we pay so much in taxes i should be able to park one of those fuckers over jessica alba's house just in case she forgets to close the curtains when she is gettin out of the shower...
Russia has actually done well by not spending a cent in Iraq and Afghanistan as we did and China can keep your tech working, through cyber espionage;

Confidential report lists U.S. weapons system designs compromised by Chinese cyberspies

Designs for many of the nation’s most sensitive advanced weapons systems have been compromised by Chinese hackers, according to a report prepared for the Pentagon and to officials from government and the defense industry.

Among more than two dozen major weapons systems whose designs were breached were programs critical to U.S. missile defenses and combat aircraft and ships, according to a previously undisclosed section of a confidential report prepared for Pentagon leaders by the Defense Science Board.

Experts warn that the electronic intrusions gave China access to advanced technology that could accelerate the development of its weapons systems and weaken the U.S. military advantage in a future conflict.
Here is the full list;

SYSTEM DESIGNS

Terminal High Altitude Area Defense

Patriot Advanced Capability-3

Extended Area Protection and Survivability System (EAPS)

F-35

V-22

C-17

Hawklink

Advanced Harpoon Weapon Control System

Tanker Conversions

Long-term Mine Reconnaissance System

Global Hawk

Navy antenna mechanisms

Global Freight Management System

Micro Air Vehicle

Brigade Combat Team Modernization

Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense System

USMC Tracked Combat Vehicles

Warfighter Information Network-Tactical (WIN-T)

T700 Family of Engines

Full Authority Digital Engine Controller (FADEC)

UH-60 Black Hawk

AMRAAM (AIM-120 Advanced Medium-Range Air-to-Air Missile)

Affordable Weapons System

Littoral Combat Ship

Navy Standard Missile (SM-2,3,6)

P-8A/Multi-Mission Aircraft

F/A and EA-18

RC-135 Detect./Collect.

Mk54 Light Weight Torpedo

TECHNOLOGIES

Directed Energy

UAV video system

Specific Emitter identification

Nanotechnology

Dual Use Avionics

Fuze/Munitions safety and development

Electronic Intelligence Processing

Tactical Data Links

Satellite Communications

Electronic Warfare

Advanced Signal Processing Technologies for Radars

Nanostructured Metal Matrix Composite for Light Weight Ballistic Armor

Vision-aided Urban Navigation & Collision Avoidance for Class I Unmanned Air Vehicles (UAV)

Space Surveillance Telescope

Materials/processing technologies

IR Search and Track systems

Electronic Warfare systems

Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch

Rail Gun

Side Scan sonar

Mode 5 IFF

Export Control, ITAR, Distribution Statement B,C,D Technical Information

CAD drawings, 3D models, schematics

Software code

Critical technology

Vendor/supply chain data

Technical manuals

PII (email addresses, SSN, credit card numbers, passwords, etc.)

Attendee lists for program reviews and meetings
 

Dr Kynes

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Fuck.. I wrote a shit-load of cool shit which froze on me.. Fuck it.. The Hague convention article 23: states it`s a war crime.
yep, but syria is not yet party to that agreement

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while i have never stopped a purse snatching, does stopping an attempted rape count?
 

Dr Kynes

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Ohh Frickin Hell!
They have uncovered the secrets of the "Alan Parsons Project"




Number Two! Get in here you Cycloptic Buffoon!
You can bet my sweet Belgian Ass they have penetrated the secrets of Preparations A Through G
We must find a place to secrete Preparation H, where it will NEVER SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY

Any suggestions? Anybody?
 

Doer

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Fuck.. I wrote a shit-load of cool shit which froze on me.. Fuck it.. The Hague convention article 23: states it`s a war crime.
Yeah, don't you hate that. I really have to remember to keep the copy shelf buffer current (cntrl A, contr C, in Wndoz) but, I usually don't. There is suppose to an auto-save feature, but I don't how to access it.

IAC, I doubt very much this is a Hague Convention situation. It is more of a Mubararic, Morasy, Saddam, play. Change the govt and let the new one hang the old one.
 

Harrekin

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Yeah, don't you hate that. I really have to remember to keep the copy shelf buffer current (cntrl A, contr C, in Wndoz) but, I usually don't. There is suppose to an auto-save feature, but I don't how to access it.

IAC, I doubt very much this is a Hague Convention situation. It is more of a Mubararic, Morasy, Saddam, play. Change the govt and let the new one hang the old one.
The Islamic Syrian Republic of Al Nusra.

Hope you're ready to pay "child support" if you bust your nuts on Assad and cause that one.
 

Doer

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Syria Contextualized: The Numbers Game
Musa al-Gharbi

from Middle East Policy
March 26, 2013

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/mepo.12003/full

It's a pretty good read, giving a general synopsis of how the situation has gotten to where it is, and where it may be going. There's also some analysis of the political issues surrounding the various actors.
It is interesting...but not at all informative. It informs what we already know. We don't know. So, lots of lost words to say that. A lot stating the obvious. :) But, not a lot of blaming and side taking, so I like that. We see this going to the UN, and Assad is getting the idea we may not use force.

Funny.

We seem to be approaching a moment when the international community must take decisive action in order to prevent Syria and the broader region from spiraling into an enduring cycle of sectarian hatred and radicalism with associated atrocities. Accordingly, policy makers must carefully consider the best outcome for the conflict and then build meaningful international consensus and commitment to actualize it. However, they must be careful not to lose sight of the will and interests of the Syrian people in the process. As Lakhdar Brahimi, the UN and Arab League representative, has maintained, “Change cannot be cosmetic.… There will be a new order but I do not know who will be in that order. That's for Syrians to decide.”[SUP]42[/SUP]
 
It would seem that contradictory self-serving Saudi and Qatari oil interests are pulling the strings of an equally self-serving oil-focused US policy in Syria, if not the wider region. It is this - the problem of establishing a pliable opposition which the US and its oil allies feel confident will play ball, pipeline-style, in a post-Assad Syria - that will determine the nature of any prospective intervention: not concern for Syrian life.


What is beyond doubt is that Assad is a war criminal whose government deserves to be overthrown. The question is by whom, and for what interests?
 

heckler73

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It is interesting...but not at all informative. It informs what we already know. We don't know. So, lots of lost words to say that. A lot stating the obvious. :) But, not a lot of blaming and side taking, so I like that. We see this going to the UN, and Assad is getting the idea we may not use force.

Funny.

We seem to be approaching a moment when the international community must take decisive action in order to prevent Syria and the broader region from spiraling into an enduring cycle of sectarian hatred and radicalism with associated atrocities. Accordingly, policy makers must carefully consider the best outcome for the conflict and then build meaningful international consensus and commitment to actualize it. However, they must be careful not to lose sight of the will and interests of the Syrian people in the process. As Lakhdar Brahimi, the UN and Arab League representative, has maintained, “Change cannot be cosmetic.… There will be a new order but I do not know who will be in that order. That's for Syrians to decide.”[SUP]42[/SUP]
Not informative? Perhaps not for those who have been following the issue from day one... For someone like me, who has not been following this closely over the last 2.5 years, it was good to see a rational synopsis and analysis without all the bias inherent in general media.

As for the "new order", it seems that was the direction Assad was going in the first place. Although, I suspect this new order will be a copy of Russia's brand of "democracy".
But if that 55% number of support for Assad is even remotely accurate (and as noted, that poll was conducted by Qatar!), then it appears that Syrians would still elect him under a "free", Western-style democracy.

The part I found interesting was the number of actual "opposition" members at the outset... Talk about a delusional minority! The way propaganda outlets tell the story, one may be inclined to presume there was an overwhelming part of the population that wanted him out...
However, I recently saw the YPG have aligned themselves (not formally, mind you) with the SNC. Whether or not that is for the purposes of dealing with the 3rd element or Assad, I don't know for certain. But it does change the dynamics somewhat. I recall the Kurds want more diplomatic representation in Syria, though. So perhaps that is their true reason for forming such alliances.
 

Doer

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Not informative? Perhaps not for those who have been following the issue from day one... For someone like me, who has not been following this closely over the last 2.5 years, it was good to see a rational synopsis and analysis without all the bias inherent in general media.

As for the "new order", it seems that was the direction Assad was going in the first place. Although, I suspect this new order will be a copy of Russia's brand of "democracy".
But if that 55% number of support for Assad is even remotely accurate (and as noted, that poll was conducted by Qatar!), then it appears that Syrians would still elect him under a "free", Western-style democracy.

The part I found interesting was the number of actual "opposition" members at the outset... Talk about a delusional minority! The way propaganda outlets tell the story, one may be inclined to presume there was an overwhelming part of the population that wanted him out...
However, I recently saw the YPG have aligned themselves (not formally, mind you) with the SNC. Whether or not that is for the purposes of dealing with the 3rd element or Assad, I don't know for certain. But it does change the dynamics somewhat. I recall the Kurds want more diplomatic representation in Syria, though. So perhaps that is their true reason for forming such alliances.
Well, I'm saying it's not informative, as I have been following along, so I'll grant you that one. :) Also, these are no better facts on the ground than is commonly known. And it is too deep a dive. I don't think, without Arabic, and not being a born Syrian, I have any idea of what the internal business of these people mean.

I know there are Christians and Alewateies or something....don't care. That is for them and they can hang Assad. Or maybe the play is the Chemical Allie will hang, as a goat and Assad joins the bigger political play as a signatory.
 
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